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cloudboy -> Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/22/2006 9:14:23 PM)

Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.

Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.

This is the storyline.

My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?

In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer “the showering of affection.”

Next, the women I’ve been with do not like extended oral. At a certain point they have had enough and want me to stop.

What are your thoughts?

Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?

Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being “hate it,” 5 being “its ok, I can take or leave it,” and 10 being “it’s the absolute ultimate to me.”)




perverseangelic -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/22/2006 9:24:49 PM)

I am not a top, so my perspective is skewed, but I -am- with someone who gives me oral sex when he wants to.

Personally, I hate it. I hate oral sex, I hate recieving it. It feels good, physically, but mentally and emotionally it makes me feel very very icky.

I prefer to give oral sex, and never ever ever have it initiated on me.

When it comes to your mentioned story line, there are some female d-types that I've known that are into the forced oral aspect, but I find that it's nearly unanimous that they don't -always- want to "force." It seems that everyone Iv'e spoken to would like oral to, at least sometimes, be a spontaneous gesture of affection, as you said.




yourMissTress -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/22/2006 9:31:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.

Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.

This is the storyline.

My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?


This to me is a type of cuckolding, and yes, this happens.
quote:


In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer “the showering of affection.”

Next, the women I’ve been with do not like extended oral. At a certain point they have had enough and want me to stop.

What are your thoughts?


What's extended oral to you? Yes, after 12 hours I'm a little dehydrated...
quote:


Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?


Don't initiate it, you will know in no uncertain terms when I want your face or any other part of you there. And there will also be no question of when I want you to stop.
quote:


Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being “hate it,” 5 being “its ok, I can take or leave it,” and 10 being “it’s the absolute ultimate to me.”)



All depends on the person and what other skills they possess. [;)]




AAkasha -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/22/2006 11:32:49 PM)

Yes, this is absolutely realistic. The trick to keeping a guy locked in a pussy collar and forcing him to service me for two hours or more is changing of positions, interrupted teasing and denial, moments to pause and slap him around to get me even more turned on. It's not just two hours-sitting-on-his-face. Unless I am into the smothering aspect of it, and then it's more about time periods and less about him actually using his tongue.

The trick is also to not cum too quickly or too often, but hold off cumming until the end. The pussy collar "ritual" and the various stages of facesitting/smothering/thigh torment are all part of a game that builds intensity and passion.

Often the male sub imagination is limited when it comes to "forced pussy worship" just as the male brain is limited when it comes to the concept of "foreplay" and not just intercourse. There are many, many, many things that can be done while a sub is being locked in a pussy collar or forced to worship pussy that are not limited specifically to this act:

Tongue ----> pussy

The trick is finding a sub that 'gets' it.

Akasha




weentsy -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/22/2006 11:43:27 PM)

quote:

There are many, many, many things that can be done while a sub is being locked in a pussy collar or forced to worship pussy that are not limited specifically to this act:

Tongue ----> pussy


A little face-slapping...a little humiliation...sounds heavenly, Mistress. And yummy.[:D]



xoxoxoxoxo,

nelly




RavenMuse -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 3:03:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: yourMissTress
What's extended oral to you? Yes, after 12 hours I'm a little dehydrated...


My coffee and my keyboard are now a little more intimatly aquainted than before I read your post [:D]




luckyslaveboync -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 6:17:06 AM)

Just to state the obvious, women differ. Therefore dommes differ, and one finds the complete range with regard to oral sex (or anything else). lucky's limited experience nonetheless ranges from a domme who much prefers self-pleasure with a dildo to oral service from a slave, to a domme for whom oral service was the primary form of D/s relationship. lucky thinks most subs prefer the latter end of the spectrum, and since so much femdom erotica is from the male sub perspective, femdom does indeed tend to be portrayed in the way cloudboy mentions. The reality is great diversity.




fergus -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 6:25:41 AM)

From my experience with oral sex (I have LITTLE experience with oral servitude unfortunately :( )

All women are different. I MUCH prefer a woman who LIKES extended oral! And the trick with extended oral A) do not be "orgasm-goal oriented, rather be pleasure oriented, the orgasms will come as they will. B) Keep RELAXED! Trust me, TMJ from too much oral is no fun.

Now, some women just don't like oral all that much (*whew* I will NEVER understand them ;) )

And soem women are just not exposed to it very much and have not had good experiences. I was ONCE with a woman who at the age of 36 had never had oral performed on her (THAT"S ABUSE I SAY!!!!!!) I quickly corrected that serious case of neglect, and it turned out that she REALLY enjoyed the experience, but it was not her favorite thing ;)

Some women, if you perform extended oral with multiple orgasms being the goal, then YES, they will become overly sensative and a foot to the head may be a result.

remember: practice makes perfect.

and ... above all things .... communication, communication, communication.

fergus




thetammyjo -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 6:32:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.

Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.

This is the storyline.

My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?


Not with anyone I've ever met unless it was a very limited arrangement.

In fact, I love to see Fox orgasm, I love to help or make him orgasm, I love to order him to get himself off. I personally consider that more powerful and positive than an orgasm denial or chastity.

As you say below the idea of forcing someone to have sex with me is a turn-off really. I mean, if I have to force them how ugly or smelly must I be? Its it more empowering to just be able to touch someone or whisper in their ear and have them respond with passion and desire?

quote:


In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer “the showering of affection.”

Next, the women I’ve been with do not like extended oral. At a certain point they have had enough and want me to stop.

What are your thoughts?

Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?

Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being “hate it,” 5 being “its ok, I can take or leave it,” and 10 being “it’s the absolute ultimate to me.”)



Oral sex, like any sex or any activity, can be best judged by several criteria. So I can't answer your questions because it depends on a multitude of factors both in me, in my partner, and in our environment. Or to tell you what Fox and Tom (and the few other sexual partners I've had) say: every time is different and they must be very aware to know what and how to turn me on and get me off.




MistressLorelei -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 6:39:53 AM)

your initial cuckolding scenario sounds very yummy... and it's not just 'in theory' material, but a very common practice for those into cuckolding, though chastity devices are not always present in such cases, but orgasm control is. I prefer a chastity device.

Queening seems to be part of most D/s relationships... though not all. There are some great chairs on the market which allow for comfort for the Domme, but the sub makes a great chair as well.

My preference would be forced oral often, but giving the sub guidelines as to what is also allowed.... like he may be allowed to do wake up calls (everyday, certain days of the week, etc). Otherwise, it would when demanded. Subs also may have a certain way of begging that can be an effective "initiation" as well.

I will give a 9.5 to your survey question and add that duration is a combinaton of control and pleasure... hours at a time is possible.. sometimes talking on the phone or reading during, will pass the time quickly for the Domme as well.





jamesthehumanrug -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 7:02:42 AM)

dear cloudy,
two things, for your many questions;

one:
you have to be the perfect sexual-OBJECT;to satisfy anyone(,THAT ,ONLY MEANS DOOR-KNOB;OBLONG;WHATEVER...)
two:
A WOMIN HAS ,TO FEEL SAFE AND SECURE, RATHER THAN SORRY LATER ,TO CUM,
AND ,THAT, ALSO MEANS YOU CANT HAVE MARCHING BANDS WALK THRU ,OR NOISE INTERRRUPT THE SEQUENCE OF A WOMINS' SEXUAL RESPONSE CYCLE(learn the cycle,so you know ,when its happening)
A GUY CAN HAVE A COUPLE, OF FREIGHT-TRAINS GO BUY, AND STILL BE ABLE TO AND WANT ,TO FINISH....IS ONE MAIN DIFFERENCE ,BETWEEN MEN ,VS. WOMIN....
,IF I SAY "GOOD-LUCK",THAT ONLY IMPLIES I THINK YOU ARE STUPID,SO ,IN OTHER WORDS;
I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT, IF
I THOT YOU COULD DO IT ANY OTHER WAYS,
BESIDES NEEDING THE PASSAGE,OF "GOOD- LUCK",....
....SO
I WONT SAY GOOD-LUCK,and IMPLY YOU CAN'T, OR ,don't work ,to achieve your goals
,or what-EVER you want..., so;
i guess i can safely say:
practice make perrrrrrrrrrfect,
NO-MATTER WHAT THE CASE ,MAY BE....




weentsy -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 3:22:10 PM)

Mistress Lorelei,

A wonderful and very stimulating response...ah, if I wasn't married <sighs>



michael in Pembroke Pines, FL




KarbonCopy -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 5:47:45 PM)

cuck·old Audio pronunciation of "cuckold" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kkld, kk-)
n.

A man married to an unfaithful wife.




MistressLorelei -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 6:27:32 PM)

Thank you weentsy... and I do believe a married submissive is a hard limit of Mine.. lol

.







LadyJulieAnn -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 7:02:27 PM)

I definitely enjoy denying my sub orgasms, but not to the extreme. I enjoy teasing and denial to a certain point, but I also like making him lick up his own cum, so orgasming is something he will get to do at some point. I don't enjoy using chastity devices, but prefer "mental chastity", meaning he will not touch himself or orgasm without my permission. I am in a long-term relationship with my sub, and sex is a part of that, so it's not realistic for me to totally deny him that opportunity.

Oral sex is just one way I enjoy receiving pleasure. I like to include it in play and get forceful with it, but it's not always that way. It's not my primary means of pleasure, so I enjoy it for short periods, mixed with other fun things.

Be well,
Julie




MistressSassy66 -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/23/2006 8:51:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.

Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.

This is the storyline.

My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?

In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer “the showering of affection.”

Next, the women I’ve been with do not like extended oral. At a certain point they have had enough and want me to stop.

What are your thoughts?

Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?

Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being “hate it,” 5 being “its ok, I can take or leave it,” and 10 being “it’s the absolute ultimate to me.”)





For the submissives that pay for services...they get no relief(orgasm).
For the submissives I "play" with making them orgasm on command is way more challenging and fun.

No male submissives are allowed to lick My Private Area for one they are not worthy enough of being able to enjoy such a treat and for another slave bishop gets that Honor for being a good girl(and she happens to be the best at it)...a good slave needs a good reward.




Vendaval -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/24/2006 1:19:49 AM)

#1 Depends upon the participants.

#2 Oral is a very intimate experience that I share only with selected partners. My favorite submissives who excel at this form of worship all have certain techniques in common: they take it slow and are not goal oriented; they start with foreplay and ask questions until they are in tune with My body, they pay attention to body language, facial expressions and vocalizations; they are gentle and strong at the same time. And they know that hyper-sensitivity can result post-orgasm, requiring a cooling down period.

#3 I would rank oral sex on a level of 9 or 10. To Me it is an act of devotion and worship
of the Goddess within a woman or the God within a man.



quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.

Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.

This is the storyline.

My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?

In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer “the showering of affection.”

Next, the women I’ve been with do not like extended oral. At a certain point they have had enough and want me to stop.

What are your thoughts?

Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?

Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being “hate it,” 5 being “its ok, I can take or leave it,” and 10 being “it’s the absolute ultimate to me.”)






weentsy -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/24/2006 7:27:23 AM)

quote:

Thank you weentsy... and I do believe a married submissive is a hard limit of Mine.. lol


Mistress Lorelei,

Well, if ever the time comes when You would find it acceptable to accept no-strings-attached foot massage (with firm hands and tireless resolve) and loving foot worship from a married slave, then please do consider me. [;)]

Your neighbor,
michael




BeeQueen -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/24/2006 7:28:05 AM)

"Quote: original thetammyjo
As you say below the idea of forcing someone to have sex with me is a turn-off really. I mean, if I have to force them how ugly or smelly must I be? Its it more empowering to just be able to touch someone or whisper in their ear and have them respond with passion and desire?"

err..uhm.....i m not sure if i read ur post right.....but
*forced* is relativly.....its about him feeling like hes been forced (by pulling his head..ordering blah blah).....not about ugly or smelly that u are....ehem....

i dont know u or ur idea of female dominance...but for me the thrill of beeing in control is to control his sexual beehavior
humiliate *him* by denying him to touch me...controlling his sexual pleasure for highering my sexual pleasure.

and for sure i dont feel ugly or smelly when i ORDER my sub to lick me.....fingerfuck me....or sit on his face




wildsue69 -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (2/24/2006 6:59:43 PM)

I cream at the thought of being forced by another woman ( i am a female too) to smell her wet pussy and ass by sitting on my face, it makes me so wet to think about how i would have no choice but to just sniff and smell her. I wanna be punished for having a hot body, pretty face and having a huge ass to go with it, i want the mistress to make me smell ass and pussy and to have my fat ass exposed while being spread and made fun of. Love Sue




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