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Rhodes85 -> RE: Age? (8/25/2009 11:14:45 PM)

'when I was 17 my first slave was 45. She tought me a lott. '

Hmm...I think thats just a little odd. I mean technically jailbait, so perhaps not the best judgement on her part. No offense intended

Anyways its a little uncommon yes, but wrong? No. Personally i've been involved in both bdsm and vanilla relationships with two 32 year olds, a 35 year old, a 36 year old, a 43 year old and a 45 year old. All of which when I was between 21 and 24. Point being that it may be uncommon but theres nothing wrong or 'odd' about it.




TurboJugend -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 3:23:22 AM)

jail bait?

lol I live in The Netherlands...we we have relaxed laws.
No offense taken.
IF we can drink at 16..we sure can have a slave at 17 :P




porcelaine -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 12:57:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SouthernSpankin

I bet this lil snip from your profile has prospective slaves begging to be your property...

I'm a nice master...but if I'm in a bad mood I may have to take it out on you


gawd i love this place.

[sm=yesmaster.gif]

porcelaine




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 1:20:06 PM)

TO the op...Age is just a number but experience can't be replaced...I have met many a young Dom's that had their shit together and as many older Dom's that didn't know shit, just looking for a lay..get out and acquire the experience necessary to be able to  to Dom a sub...Most women won't give a young Dom under 25 a second glance or a fair shake,thats too bad maybe they are passing up a gem but in your case they aren't....bounty




SteelofUtah -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 1:47:22 PM)

I dislike and have always disliked this issue.

There are some things that one cannot gap.

The Age Issue is often seen as a Number, I get rather agrivated being seen as a number. However there are times when this is an issue. I got involved in this lifestyle at 16 and knew it was not something that I did but Dominant was something that I was. However at 16 when the average age of submissives in my local circle was 35 to 48 it is difficult to find a submissive who was willing to surrender themselves to someone who could not legally vote at the time.

I used to rage against the idea that my Age defined who I am, I still feel it is a silly thing to make the final decision on however I do know some things that age causes an issue with. An Older sub would remember things that I did not and thus could not relate to. I was not alive when Kennedy was Shot, I don't rememer who Shot JR, I never owned a pet rock. I was a Child of the 80's, I did the Grunge thing till I got tired of smelling like teen spirit. I watched He-Man not the Little Rascals, I watched Transformers and I remember when Optimus Prime Died. I happen to know who John Boy is but never saw an episode of the Waltons. I had Afterschool specials that made me think every adult wanted to molest me. These are Generational Factors that Age does matter too.

That being said my wife is 6 years younger than me, far from a full generation however there are things she did not experience or was too young to experience them the same way I did. For instance she never watched 21 Jump Street and so she only knows Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow and not Officer Tom Hanson. These things do not a relationship make but some people wonder what they will have in common with someone younger or older than them.

This is where I show you how silly these things can be. You see andi is a HUGE MASSIVE FAN of RUSH, Pink Floyd, and Led Zepplin she has forgotten more about these bands then I ever learned in the first place, I consider myself an 80's kid but I was 10 by the time it was now the 90's however I relate to the 80's and that culture heavily.

Age has nothing to do with interests only how one remembers these interests. I am a Movie Fanatic and tend to like all Generes but remember with passion the movies that related to me at the time because of this many of my favorite movies are from the 80's but my all time Favorites are from the 60's 70's and some even from the 50's I love these movies and I can talk about them forever.

Age in the concept of BDSM is offten seen as Experience and this is the Largest Falecy I know of. I have been involved in this lifestyle in some way for about 12 years. In that time I have come across MANY MANY People who are in their mid to late 50's who are revered for their knowledge of BDSM and their abilities as a Dominant and they haven't been involved in this Lifestyle for more than 6 or 7 years. The Last Honoring Ceremony that I went to, some Mr.Master something or other the Dominant being honored had been involved for 7 years and written two books. So what is Age and Experinece?

Ultimatly I feel this way. Age is a Number that comes with a time line in which one can experiencve many things, it is how much you learn from those things that matters not how long you had to learn them.

Steel




inquizitivesub -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 2:04:11 PM)

The relationship I just got out of--had a 20 year age difference she was older. And it didn't matter. Until ---
Diabetes starting taking things---medically she couldn't do things-sex was painful and generally being in pain was what she became accustomed to--and not a pleasureable pain. I wanted to take walks--she couldn't . I wanted to go to Carnivals and Fairs --it was too hot---and yeah buddy its so much fun staying over night at an emergency room versus a nice hotel.
I woke up and began thinking --I am 42 and when I'm 62 what am I going to be able to do---I never wished my partner any ill fated demise---but I also couldn't take thinking what was I going to miss out on. And not be able to re-capture when I was old. 

Darlings---age is more than a number and experience!!!! 




porcelaine -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 2:22:03 PM)

age is just like every other qualifier people use when selecting a mate. some are quite comfortable with large gaps in either direction. others might prefer smaller ones. some won't have it either way at all. i see nothing wrong with either concept, particularly if you feel it is applicable to you. as long as we keep in mind that others do feel differently and are entitled to defining their ick factor just like you and i.

porcelaine




SteelofUtah -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 3:41:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: inquizitivesub

The relationship I just got out of--had a 20 year age difference she was older. And it didn't matter. Until ---
Diabetes starting taking things---medically she couldn't do things-sex was painful and generally being in pain was what she became accustomed to--and not a pleasureable pain. I wanted to take walks--she couldn't . I wanted to go to Carnivals and Fairs --it was too hot---and yeah buddy its so much fun staying over night at an emergency room versus a nice hotel.


Can't give you this one cause I'm 28 and I have Diabetes Type Two with Type One Onslaught. Medication can make it managable and the only way you are always in pain is if you don't take care and manage it if you ignore it you will be breaking down due to neglect not necessarily the disease.

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ORIGINAL: inquizitivesub

I woke up and began thinking --I am 42 and when I'm 62 what am I going to be able to do---I never wished my partner any ill fated demise---but I also couldn't take thinking what was I going to miss out on. And not be able to re-capture when I was old. 


This bothers me. No, I'm not saying you bother me, I am saying this idea bothers me. I don't make commitments as long as I am having fun. When I commit to someone I commit to the good and the bad. Unless something they are doing intentionally is pushing me away someones health is not a reason for me to abandon a commitment. Not everyone feels the way I do but I often see people ending relationships because things change and they don't like the change. No one says you gotta be miserable but no one says you gotta miss anyting either.


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ORIGINAL: inquizitivesub

Darlings---age is more than a number and experience!!!! 


Apparently to some people it is. To me it is something that just is and the person is far more than the number of trips they've taken around the sun.

Steel




sravaka -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 4:00:35 PM)

The difficulty with age gaps is often a difficulty with cultural gaps, as Steel laid out so well above--  you don't have the same upbringing things in common. The question is, does it matter to either or both parties?  Or is it a sort of twisted advantage?

I tend to skew older... but only to older people who don't care that I wasn't around when Kennedy was shot, or whether I watched Leave It To Beaver in primetime (I assume it was once on in primetime).  They can take pleasure in telling me about what that was like for them, and can take pleasure conversely in hearing what the 70s and 80s felt like to me as a kid compared to what it felt like to them as an adult.  And hopefully we have some things in common in the here and now.

I really think it's similar to the continuum upon which people love engaging with people from other cultures, or merely manage it, or can't begin to think about it.

So, for the OP, if he weren't an obvious twit as revealed in the giant red text of his profile....   it's not impossible, but you'd need to find someone who was interested in what life looks like to someone with your perspective (of which age/experience is a part).  You'll probably find more younger people for whom that is the case.... but there will be exceptions.

::shrug::




IronBear -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 9:13:28 PM)

The only differences Neets and I had was the difference of our social backgrounds, upbringing and the different emphasis placed on values for her age group (she's 34) and mine (I'm almost 64) These differences however have allowed us to complement each other and is an asset, not a liability. The only bummer is that it is feasible that I may die well before she does so it behoves me to do all I can to leave her financially secure. Respect, trust and friendship is the bricks which holds us together and the love we have for each other is the cement which binds the whole shebang. 




DavanKael -> RE: Age? (8/26/2009 9:35:05 PM)

Beautifully stated, IronBear.  :> 

Thus far, the partner with the greatest age disparity I have had is 12-13 years my senior.  While his appearance wasn't particularly youthful (Though he didn't look a harsh mid-40's either), we had tons and tons of commonalities in interests: music, art, etc.  COntext and common ground in addition to friendship and love is very important to me, among other things. 
  Davan




canukeepup -> RE: Age? (8/28/2009 7:31:25 PM)

hmmmm there was this 18yr old when i 30..................often wonder how much differnent things might have been had it not been so early in her life... a mature n hard life she'd led BUT....to ask to play trival pursuit n the song Ebony n Ivory comes up and she says.....Stevie Wonder and ummm that white guy!!! ..well..yano ...she thought a beetle was bug lol




CaringandReal -> RE: Age? (8/28/2009 9:01:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

...

I dislike and have always disliked this issue.

Steel


You may find this amusing.. or not: until you posted the above, I was under the impression you were approximately 60. I've been under that impression for weeks. Yeah, age ain't nothing but a number. ;)




SteelofUtah -> RE: Age? (8/28/2009 10:09:21 PM)

LMAO.

Okay 60 is older than I usually get.

Usually 38 to 45 even from looks.

I will take it to mean you thought I was Learned and I will take that as a Compliment.

Then again you could say I was sounding like an Old Coot.

Thank you for the chuckle.

Steel




IronBear -> RE: Age? (8/29/2009 9:05:49 AM)

Awwwww shucks SoU you may just be eligible next Birthday to join your local chapter of the Gorean Old Farts Association. I always had you late twenties to mid thirties for some unfathomable and unaccountable reason. 




CaringandReal -> RE: Age? (8/29/2009 11:15:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

LMAO.

Okay 60 is older than I usually get.

Usually 38 to 45 even from looks.

I will take it to mean you thought I was Learned and I will take that as a Compliment.

Then again you could say I was sounding like an Old Coot.

Thank you for the chuckle.

Steel


(laughing) Yeah, I guess that could be taken both ways. But seriously, t's either a compliment or an indication my "true age" sensors are way off kilter. The second may be so, but I don't do this very often. Usually I am good at guessing another's age from what they say. The only other time this has happened was with a dominant I met online whom my master had befriended first. Based on the way he spoke and acted, I thought he was 50. It was just the maturity level I sensed from him. Maybe it was because he got along so well with my master, something other dominants seldom did unless they were super secure, lol. It wasn't a younger-guy/older guy relationship, either. It was one of equals.

A few days later I heard some other subs in the online space we were all sharing at the time dissing him because he was "only 19." And I had a big moment of cognitive dissonance. Their revelation didn't change my respect for him or my sense of his maturity. Instead I was both shocked and a little disgusted that they couldn't see him for what he was. Most of them were single at the time. Why weren't they jumping all over him, the way they were jumping all over my master? I understand it a bit better now. Sometimes when you are single you develop weird defenses that are usually born of fear.




FullCircle -> RE: Age? (8/29/2009 1:10:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Focus50
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
3. "I'm a new Dom to the lifestyle.  tried being a sub but noone wanted me :(  SO I decided to become a Dominant :D"

Whoa, his profile really says that...?!?
I love it when my preconceived, generalised prejudices about teenage "Masters" hit the dead centre of the bullseye. And perfectly reinforces my first reply here.... lol
Focus.


It's always a mistake to assume someone with a sense of humour will be reading your profile.




CalifChick -> RE: Age? (8/29/2009 1:23:34 PM)

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"I'm a new Dom to the lifestyle.  tried being a sub but noone wanted me :(  SO I decided to become a Dominant :D"

I'm a nice master...but if I'm in a bad mood I may have to take it out on you



Age is only a number until it's carrying a buttload of immaturity and inexperience with it.

Your first statement smacks of "I couldn't get a date with a girl, so I decided to try being gay instead."  Yeah, that's a real confidence-builder in your target audience.

Your second statement smacks of, "When I get angry I cannot control myself so I hope you like pain and won't have me arrested for assault."

Neither trait is attractive in a person of any age.  So address the issues you're carrying and don't whine that people don't/won't take you seriously because of your age.  They won't take you seriously because of your ideas.

Cali




leadership527 -> RE: Age? (8/29/2009 1:25:00 PM)

I kind of suspect she means, "you sound sensible and well grounded in reality" The word "learned" to me is a lot like "genius"... a way to go wrong quickly and with great confidence.




Musicmystery -> RE: Age? (8/29/2009 2:03:55 PM)

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Age is only a number


Depending on the year...




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