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windchymes -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 1:14:35 PM)
I get the gist of the thread, but I don't see why it's about "s-types" and griping, negative attitudes, whining, etc. Everyone does that, and no one likes to hear it, but s-types are still supposed to be multi-dimensional human beings. They have emotions and vent about problems and frustrations, too. What I hear is leaning towards "A 'twue' sub or slave would never whine, complain, or say a bad thing about anything!" People are people. Except the ones from Stepford [8\|]

leadership527 -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 1:18:45 PM)
~fast reply~ You know, another angle on this... looking back on some of my own less than wise posts... all of us have bad days. There are LOTS of people on these boards. So, by extension, pretty much any given day and any given thread, someone's going to be having a "moment". That's just one of the reasons that it's good to take things with a grain of salt on the internet. God knows as much as I try not to, every now and then I find myself participating in posts that are...well.. below the standards I would set for myself.

sweetsub1957 -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 3:14:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arillis I’ve read this post and quite frankly don’t have a clue of what a nasty attitude is. Its seem to me a few social retards are arguing back and forth with a few morons. It would seem so. I did not mean to open up a can of worms, but it seems I did. All I was meaning by a nasty attitude is the "everything is always someone else's fault" kind of attitude, the kind that takes no personal responsibility for one's own situation.

sweetsub1957 -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 3:26:10 PM)
~Fast Reply~ I've had my less-than-stellar moments and this thread is surely one of them.....like everyone else, I have my good days and my not-so-good days. Looking back at it, my OP is somewhat bitchy and, yes, I feel pretty guilty about that. I really wasn't meaning to sound like "A 'twue' sub or slave would never....." I was just frustrated at how some people don't feel any measure of personal responsibility. There are times when things can't be helped, that's for sure, but it wasn't those times I was referring to. To those I offended, I sincerely apologize. sweetsub1957

IrishMist -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 3:27:31 PM)
quote: It would seem so. I did not mean to open up a can of worms, but it seems I did. All I was meaning by a nasty attitude is the "everything is always someone else's fault" kind of attitude, the kind that takes no personal responsibility for one's own situation. I'll echo what windchymes already said and ask "why is only s types that bitch, moan, gripe, etc?" What's more, from what you said above, it would seem that you are under the impression that only submissives blame everything on everyone else, and don't take personal responsibility for their decisions and actions.

sweetsub1957 -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 4:12:06 PM)
IrishMist, I was wrong to have tarteted only the s-types. There are people on both sides of the kneel who gripe & fail to take personal responsibility, and I should've included everyone. I was meaning to put that in my post that you quoted, but somehow I neglected to. So I am saying that now rather than doing an Edit. Once again I admit that I, too, am guilty of bitching and, to those I have offended, I sincerely apologize. I'm not sure there is anything else I can do at this point. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

mnottertail -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 4:13:57 PM)
tarteting is never wrong if you are looking to give a dom some pussy; however. Just so long as we remain clear on that point. Ron

sweetsub1957 -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 4:15:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail tarteting is never wrong if you are looking to give a dom some pussy; however. Just so long as we remain clear on that point. Ron hahahahaha lmao

IrishMist -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 4:28:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail tarteting is never wrong if you are looking to give a dom some pussy; however. Just so long as we remain clear on that point. Ron LMFAO

lilgirl2008 -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/19/2009 5:48:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 I say if you cant attract good in your life, you need to work on you. I discovered this about me after a broke up with someone significant 6 months ago. I could try to find another like I had the last time we broke off. Being spoiled was fun and helped but it was just a band aid. I figured that this lonely rode I am taking will reap reward later as I will have more to offer, not only to others, but to myself. There is a spiritual saying: The answer is not without, but within... luscious lips we do seem to have a few things in common! I am with you on this one. I don't gripe about how I don't have a Dominant. I am actually not pursuing one at this point in my life. After ending a long term D/s relationship that lasted for several years, I found it best to take some time and figure out what it was that I wanted again. Where I went wrong, where he went wrong, etc. I am happily working on me right now and enjoying life. I too get my share of emails from the wacko crowd. Eh, it happens. You can't do anything about how someone else lives their life or chooses to express themselves. But you have just as much right to gripe about it, just like they do to gripe in the first place.

MaamJay -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 1:14:48 AM)
I try to avoid the worst of the whining threads but some catch you out! And some posts just pop up on other threads too. Whilst I understand that sweetsub kinda shot herself in the foot on this one, I am actually more annoyed by "nasty" (as in vicious, critical) attitudes that I find in some male so-called subs/slaves. And before y'all yell at Me for targeting males, not saying I wouldn't see it in girls too, I just don't tend to be written to by many of them! The only really nasty emails I've had in My time here on CM has been from males who purport to be subs ... yeah, right! The latest wrote to Me just to bitch about My journal entry! I'd had the temerity to write about Our new life on the road in Our van (I think it was the reference to dumping waste that got to him LOL!) ... and I was soundly ticked off and told that "that sort of shit doesn't belong on here." (I'm sure all the toilet slaves would beg to differ LMAO!). It's not as if he was forced to read My journal! Well I think that particular "slave boy" will have a lot of trouble finding a Mistress! Shakes head and retires to Her corner Maam Jay aka violet[A]

TurboJugend -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 3:33:59 AM)
at OP s-types are not different then vanilla's when it comes to emotions, feelings and thoughts. the lifestyle is not superior in behaviour to the vanilla world..

CaringandReal -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 5:03:36 AM)
There are just as many, if not more, gripes by dominants posted in this forum (at least one new one every day, it seems.) Ja' cuse! Bitching, whining, complaining, moaning, blaming everybody but yourself for your circustances is endemic on this website and crosses all gender and role boundaries. I find them all mildly disgusting no matter who starts the thread. What do you think about the dominant-initiated gripe-fests? LOL, you know things are really bad when someone makes a thread to whine about the whiners.

CaringandReal -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 5:24:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957 IrishMist, I was wrong to have tarteted only the s-types. There are people on both sides of the kneel who gripe & fail to take personal responsibility, and I should've included everyone. I was meaning to put that in my post that you quoted, but somehow I neglected to. So I am saying that now rather than doing an Edit. Once again I admit that I, too, am guilty of bitching and, to those I have offended, I sincerely apologize. I'm not sure there is anything else I can do at this point. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Oh, don't worry about it, not everyone is leaping down your throat. Yeah you did miss the dominant whiners, who annoy the hell out of some of us (with a submissive, you can at least have the satisfaction of imagining this bad personality trait being disciplined out of him or her. But if a dominant has it...all you can do is avoid them the way you steer clear of somebody who has very bad body odor). I think the fact that someone started a thread to complain about the complainers is great! Now I have a thread URL to post when I see yet another whining thread. It also gives me an idea of how really bad it is on here, in terms of the prevelance of complaining. It's viral, I believe: like the proverbial monkey, we see it in others' personal journals and then blindly and unthinkingly imitate it. (I say blindly and unthinkingly because most whiney journal entries are written as if the writer thinks they've magically discovered all on their own this brillant new way of saying something interesting--snort!) And quite clearly, some of these monkeys aren't satisifed with the limited audience they get for their journal entries: I swear, they see this forum as one GIAGANTIC PERSONAL BITCH JOURNAL where everybody will see their whines, not just the people who visit their profile, but EVERYONE! ROFL! (Actually, there's a huge amount of promotion/advertising of self and groups that goes on in these threads. It strikes me as interesting that thiis group, while so cynical when it comes to people's personal traits, seems to accept or ignore these often blatent attempts at salemanship. Some message boards roast alive any new posters who try that sort of thing. I don't think such threads are worth paying much attention to, and in fact I often ignore the starters, but I do find it interesting that obvious salejobs get treated as if they were just more topics of conversation.) A question for those who've been reading here for several years: has the frequency of the complaining threads gone up in recent history or has it always been this way?

Prinsexx -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 5:26:00 AM)
Well there have been times when I've been asked to whine more moan more... moan louder.... cry you bitch.....

DesFIP -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 6:22:59 AM)
Arillis, your name calling is an example of a bad attitude. Just being helpful [:)]

sweetsub1957 -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 7:12:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CaringandReal quote: ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957 IrishMist, I was wrong to have tarteted only the s-types. There are people on both sides of the kneel who gripe & fail to take personal responsibility, and I should've included everyone. I was meaning to put that in my post that you quoted, but somehow I neglected to. So I am saying that now rather than doing an Edit. Once again I admit that I, too, am guilty of bitching and, to those I have offended, I sincerely apologize. I'm not sure there is anything else I can do at this point. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Oh, don't worry about it, not everyone is leaping down your throat. Yeah you did miss the dominant whiners, who annoy the hell out of some of us (with a submissive, you can at least have the satisfaction of imagining this bad personality trait being disciplined out of him or her. But if a dominant has it...all you can do is avoid them the way you steer clear of somebody who has very bad body odor). I think the fact that someone started a thread to complain about the complainers is great! Now I have a thread URL to post when I see yet another whining thread. It also gives me an idea of how really bad it is on here, in terms of the prevelance of complaining. It's viral, I believe: like the proverbial monkey, we see it in others' personal journals and then blindly and unthinkingly imitate it. (I say blindly and unthinkingly because most whiney journal entries are written as if the writer thinks they've magically discovered all on their own this brillant new way of saying something interesting--snort!) And quite clearly, some of these monkeys aren't satisifed with the limited audience they get for their journal entries: I swear, they see this forum as one GIAGANTIC PERSONAL BITCH JOURNAL where everybody will see their whines, not just the people who visit their profile, but EVERYONE! ROFL! (Actually, there's a huge amount of promotion/advertising of self and groups that goes on in these threads. It strikes me as interesting that thiis group, while so cynical when it comes to people's personal traits, seems to accept or ignore these often blatent attempts at salemanship. Some message boards roast alive any new posters who try that sort of thing. I don't think such threads are worth paying much attention to, and in fact I often ignore the starters, but I do find it interesting that obvious salejobs get treated as if they were just more topics of conversation.) A question for those who've been reading here for several years: has the frequency of the complaining threads gone up in recent history or has it always been this way? I think the fact that someone started a thread to complain about the complainers is great! Now I have a thread URL to post when I see yet another whining thread. haha Well, I guess it's impossible to redeem myself, as some don't read the entire thread, which includes two outright apologies from me, before they post. So I may as well laugh at me getting my ass kicked. hahaha

impishlilhellcat -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 7:20:17 AM)
I don't just hear the whining here on the boards about being single and where are all the good ________ fill in the blank. I hear it in my everyday life a lot too. I myself am single and I don't understand the negativity either. I've sort of come to the conclusion along the way that a relationship or someone good comes to you when you are ready. You can actively search your whole life and may not necessarily find what you are looking for. Sometimes we get what we need and not what we want. All in all I agree with the OP. I simply try to ignore the negative stuff and take the higher route and find happiness in myself and my situation as often as possible. I also try to surround myself with people of a similar nature.

TurboJugend -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 7:23:46 AM)
perhaps they are stil single because of that wining..

CaringandReal -> RE: s-types with nasty attitudes..... (8/22/2009 8:29:40 AM)
You tend to read a lot more into someone's messages than they actually said, and most of what you read in them is quite negative and also, at least from my perspective, patently false in a way that somebody capable of writing the things you write would possibly already know. Here's what the thread starter actually said: ----------------------- "I mean, as a submissive, this really bothers me. There are threads all over the place.....griping about Female Domination failing......griping about where are all the good Doms.....and tons of others. Gripe, gripe, gripe. I've followed those threads and many others all the way through over time and it seems, to me anyway, that the OPs in such threads most of the time show very negative attitudes and, for some strange reason, just can't seem to understand why Someone would not want to snatch them up in a heartbeat. They just can't seem to "get it" that just plain bad attitudes & a me me me approach to searching can have an enormously negative impact on results. I know I'm probably going to get flamed for posting this but.....oh well. Before anyone says it's easy for me because I have a Dominant, I will say that when I was single, no I did not get on the boards and whine and cry about poor me and how there aren't any decent Dominants out there. So what do the rest of ya'all have to say about this? I'm honestly not trying to cause problems or be a troll, I just had to "get this off my chest." ------------------- How the hell you went from the above to all this holy crap about her avidly and obsessively reading all these whine/bitch posts and your arrogant presumption that the only reason she could have to start this thread was to show how much better she was than everyone else frankly baffles me...although a little word called "projection" does also come to mind. ;) A lot of people on these boards fall for a faux "straight-talkin' " bluntitude and assume that if it's this direct and it also reveals Ugly Secret Unobvious (well, to them) But Logical Sounding Motivations then by golly-gee, it's got to be The Real Deal. A lot of people are also too lazy to crtically and carefully analyze what they read, especially if the words happen to coddle up nice and cozy to their favorite biases or fantasies. What I personally see in a post like this, however, is a lot of very angry, self-rightous, and, most importantly, dishonest venting. I don't like dishonesty, in any form, whether it be blunt, subtle, or, in your case, subtle posing as blunt. One point you make below is accurate. Yes, she is whining about the whiners. Big cheer to you for pointing out the obvious. ([8\|] I personally applaud her for this. I think it's about time someone came out and said this! She's also pointing out a rampant ugly habit among users of this website and bringing it out in the open for all to discuss rather than just silently bearing it or pretending it doesn't exist. She has a right to post whatever she wants and IMO, she's doing people a favor with this one. Just as you have the right, I supposet, to misrepresent and read ugly and uncomplimentary (not to mention mostly incorrect) secret meanings and inundendos into her post that were not there to begin with, I suppose. (shrug) Regarding calling a spade a spade: When that proverbial and most ancient Emperor was parading down the street butt ass naked, I'm sure all the people admiring his gorgeous outfit would have insisted they were calling "a spade a spade," as well. Reality is mallable, as that fable and occasionally your behavior in this forum so aptly demonstrate. In other words, sometimes a spade is only a spade for as long as people are willing to believe somoene else's line of bull that they are actually looking at a spade. quote: ORIGINAL: barelynangel I don't know about everyone but to me you are way to concerned with online nicknames and what they are doing and you also say you follow these threads -- which tells me you enjoy the drama. Maybe then enjoy entertaining others. I mean if you want to be technical your OP is a bitching whining post on many levels. So i guess you can ask yourself -- why did you do it and maybe you may understand why others choose to do it. quote: I've followed those threads and many others all the way through Now ask yourself are you really bitching and whining? If you say well no i am not, my post wasn't meant like that and any other excuse you can give yourself. You are for all intent and purposes whining, bitching about what others choose to post about and how they choose. Personally this -- i was so much better than THESE people makes me wonder if you want a bozo button or something or a pat on the head for your good performance. It all is based upon interpretation. Some people on this board seem to take any question that has a personal explanation as someone is whining or bitching, most of the threads have people instinctively whining at an OP rather than discussing the question posed. Many people also put a tone on many posts that the OP never intended. Some people just as IN LIFE - yeah offline -- are even tempered, passive, non argumentative, and all in all have a positive outlook, some have the exact opposite and many fall in between. All in all, you even stated you follow these threads avidly. So my question then is -- why do you? Because you like the blood fest, you enjoy the confrontational tude of the thread, you enjoy watching the fight or the insults etc? I mean here you are posting in a "nice" way but in the end its still bitching and whining about what other nicknames on a board are doing. What's the saying -- a rose by any other name... Also, you assume its a bad attitude that keep people from being owned, has it occured to you that to assume this is why they aren't owned -- based on what YOU interpret in a typed post -- is really well silly. MOST people actually LIVE outside of a discussion board. I have people tell me all the time when i am not discussing i am very different. I tell them, well when i am discussing -- i am discussing, i am not using the forums as a social place to find what i am advertising for in my profile. I don't know, to me, people exist outside an online discussion forum so i really don't chalk up their being alone due to how they post on such a forum. That is just way to much focus on a very SMALL part of someone's life. I know i have different personalities and ways i do things in all the different venues of my life, as stella said lol my mom looks at me like i am an alien when i drive (i have full blown conversations with cars around me lol), at work i am a different way, at home i am a different way, among certain friends i am again different depending on what we are doing etc. However, as i said, you are an avid follower -- so what does that say about you? If these people weren't around, i would suspect you would find the boards very boring. You may say no, but according to you, you give these types of threads lots of attention so the judgment based on what you have posted as well as your i did this this and this can cause someone to form a judgment about you that you never intended to portray --- yes? Personally, i would rather have someone post what they are feeling and be direct rather than passive-aggressiveness i see so called i am so sub people use to portray a concept of look how nice i am BS. As they say a spade is a spade no matter how you attempt to define it. angel

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