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Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 7:04:28 AM   
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DARTMOUTH, Mass. (AP) — Rep. Barney Frank lashed out at protester who held a poster depicting President Barack Obama with a Hitler-style mustache during a heated town hall meeting on federal health care reform.

"On what planet do you spend most of your time?" Frank asked the woman, who had stepped up to the podium at a southeastern Massachusetts senior center to ask why Frank supports what she called a Nazi policy.

"Ma'am, trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it," Frank replied.

He continued by saying her ability to deface an image of the president and express her views "is a tribute to the First Amendment that this kind of vile, contemptible nonsense is so freely propagated."

Frank, who chairs the House Financial Services Committee, sought to assure more than 500 people attending the rowdy meeting that the average taxpayer wouldn't be hurt by plans currently under consideration in Congress.

Some of those attending the meeting organized by the Democratic Town Committee of Dartmouth shouted and booed as Frank and others addressed the crowd.

At one point, Frank asked the crowd: "Which one of you wants to yell next?"
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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 7:11:44 AM   
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Communists seem to be the main party behind the "Obama as Hitler" campaign.

http://www.larouchepac.com/health

Obama is losing the far left on the health issue.


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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 7:43:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I always thought these health care protesters were just evil commies trying to disrupt our American way of life.

I'm glad to see we are in agreement.

So, what do you think we should do to rid the the Republican Party of these communist infiltrators?

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 8:00:11 AM   
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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 8:18:07 AM   
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Obama is losing the far left on the health issue.


He wasn't looking to keep it, anyway.

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 8:24:43 AM   
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kill 'em all, let god sort them out.


Just another example of how hateful you liberals are.

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 8:35:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Whatever happened to this Democratic spokesperson and the policy she advocated? What happened to the concept of "good disruptors" and "angry protesters" that used to advocate the end of both the war in Afghanistan and the occupation of Iraq were paid instigators of the Democratic Party since with the change in Washington, they are no longer evident.

Senator Frank shouldn't have a problem with this. He should be aware that the same leadership example who strived to generate "disruptive protests". The Speaker of the House also used the 'Nazi' label on this campaign for the PAC and special interests supporting this health care Bill. A fine representation of the Democratic Party process of name calling when the can't stand behind the issues. What was a Nazi reference supposed to say about the argument? Something about 'Godwin's Law'? In this case does that mean that both polarized sides have no legitimate argument?
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Then she referred to hecklers at a town hall meeting: "They're carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on health-care."

See the video here.


Some of the cowardly representatives have canceled their 'town meetings'. I'm sure others would like to invoke the CM 'Block' so they wouldn't have to see or hear these, obviously dangerous and painful, words and questions. They have such a great plan it shouldn't be debatable!


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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 8:42:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		LOL Merc,

I could point out that you have just embroidered an attack ad hominem.  Hey, if we all did our give and take by the philisophical laws of fair debate, we wouldn't have shit to say.

I understand your point; however, and actually agree with some of it.  People are pissed off, and rightly so,  from one end of the spectrum to the other.

But most of the cancelling was done so as not to give the crazies more face time.

The vast majority of lowbrow-neo-cons as well as the pinko-commie-fag liberals no longer care about whether Obama has a valid birth certificate or not, since that is going to be a static situation. 

It's all about the change thing.

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 10:57:58 AM   
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LaRouche is a Democrat / Communist.

Its no surprise though that you and the Liberal media sources you adhere to would like to pass him off as a Conservative. No surprise at all, this is the kind of behavior people are learning to expect.

Anyone looking at the poster that woman in the article you linked to was carrying will see that it's straight off of the LaRouche website I linked to.

This is becoming so predictable I can almost call these things in my sleep...

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Yeah, I always thought these health care protesters were just evil commies trying to disrupt our American way of life.

I'm glad to see we are in agreement.

So, what do you think we should do to rid the the Republican Party of these communist infiltrators?



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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 11:08:06 AM   
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LaRouche is a Democrat / Communist.

Its no surprise though that you and the Liberal media sources you adhere to would like to pass him off as a Conservative. No surprise at all, this is the kind of behavior people are learning to expect.

Anyone looking at the poster that woman in the article you linked to was carrying will see that it's straight off of the LaRouche website I linked to.

This is becoming so predictable I can almost call these things in my sleep...

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Yeah, I always thought these health care protesters were just evil commies trying to disrupt our American way of life.

I'm glad to see we are in agreement.

So, what do you think we should do to rid the the Republican Party of these communist infiltrators?




I have fuckin' lost this totally now.  Where did Lyndon LaRouche come into the picture.

I will agree that he is a commie, but not a democrat, running for office as a democrat is not the same as being one.  I would like to draw your attention to Sen. Arlen Specter.....(D).......um, no; (R).......ehhhhhhhhh----- (D).

Unless you are still claiming him as one of your boys.

LOL, Sanity
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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 11:09:38 AM   
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the canceling was done so as not to give the crazies more face time


Ron, that is the part I don't understand the most. Having a great, well thought out, budgeted, pragmatic plan, I'd want more crazies to show up than head bobbers. My ability to stand up to 'crazy' challenges, addressing and (heres a crazy thought) showing how wrong they are(!) provides an example of my commitment and integrity. But they can't do that apparently can they? Instead they employ the Nazi reference, quoted from not only party leadership but 2 heart beats away from the Presidency, a 'shining' example of the party politic.

Name calling and shutting off contact points to the opposite of that being true. It points to cowardliness, fear, and lack of confidence.

You want a conspiracy theory to ponder, how about the "disrupters" being paid Democratic party members? With screamers and name callers at the forefront, simple and direct questions can't be asked. These come to mind immediately:

The average per person cost of health-care in the US for the last reported period, 2007, was $5,711/person. The common number used for those currently uninsured is 46 Million. Employing those numbers the cost of this program should be expected to reach $262,706,000,000 per year.
What specific provisions in the current Bill reduce that cost estimation?
Or, if concurring with those numbers; who's going to pay for it?
Since the +$325,000 earners are commonly pointed to, how many taxpayers or taxpaying families fall into that targeted demographic and how much more will have to come from this tax base?
Why create another bureaucracy when Medicaid, Medicare, Military, and Congress all represent federal health care programs in place?

I think Senator Frank would 'block me' from asking those questions if he could; much better to finger point at Nazis!

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 11:16:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Name calling and shutting off contact points to the opposite of that being true. It points to cowardliness, fear, and lack of confidence.

Uh, you know that these folks are callin' NAZI and LIAR and just going off, shouting at the top of their lungs..........where's the sense in that? And I am confused here, perhaps you can unweave the dichotomy presented by your last sentence, below:

You want a conspiracy theory to ponder, how about the "disrupters" being paid Democratic party members? With screamers and name callers at the forefront, simple and direct questions can't be asked.

Paid Democratic party members?  C'mon Merc... now you sound like one of those wigged out neo-con conspiracy theorists...just like when the hue and cry was raised here that the shameful interruptions at the Republican National Committee had to have been the work of liberal whacko fucks,  and it turned out to be Ron Paul supporters.

No, it looks like moderate democrats are the silent majority, at this point.

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 11:22:00 AM   
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Paid Democratic party members? C'mon Merc... now you sound like one of those wigged out neo-con conspiracy theorists...just like when the hue and cry was raised here that the shameful interruptions at the Republican National Committee had to have been the work of liberal whacko fucks, and it turned out to be Ron Paul supporters.
Sorry Ron, is was a facetious way to get to the point that there are many questions that don't get asked and answered. I'm of other opinion that this Administration and those pushing for this legislation don't want them asked because they have answers, or don't want to let the answers be known; Democrat AND Republican.

You know what - maybe it's best to ask the questions specifically to see if anyone has gleaned an answer from any source, or has one themselves.

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 11:41:49 AM   
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kill 'em all, let god sort them out.


Just another example of how hateful you liberals are.



Greedy is not hateful.

Just another example of judging the whole group based on the actions of some.

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 12:19:42 PM   
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Ron,

Here's the link to the full video that is the basis for the OP, it's clear in the full video that the protester in question is a LaRouche supporter, or just barely to the left of rml.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=15128608&ch=4226716&src=news

She's just left of liberal!

That's where LaRouche comes into the picture. Apparently LaRouche seems to believe that Obama is a Nationalist Socialist, and Communists have had bad luck with Nationalist Socialists in the past... he's even got posters of Obama as Hitler on his website, and his followers are carrying those posters to town hall protests with them.

Something that's worth noting is that while it becomes obvious while watching the full video that the crazy chick calling Obama a Nazi is a leftist LaRouche supporter, none of the media types that are covering the story mention that she's a leftist, they're happier misleading audiences into believing that the crazies are Republicans.


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I have fuckin' lost this totally now.  Where did Lyndon LaRouche come into the picture.

I will agree that he is a commie, but not a democrat, running for office as a democrat is not the same as being one.  I would like to draw your attention to Sen. Arlen Specter.....(D).......um, no; (R).......ehhhhhhhhh----- (D).

Unless you are still claiming him as one of your boys.

LOL, Sanity
Ron


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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 12:24:30 PM   
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Well, there are crazies to the left of me, crazies to the right......
And now I'm stuck in the middle with you.

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 12:36:59 PM   
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Hey, hey, hey - watch that, now.

Don't let on to anyone that I'm in the middle, you'll ruin my good reputation.


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Oh, thank god..........thought it was time to retire to the Ronald Reagan home for the loose of thought.

Well, there are crazies to the left of me, crazies to the right......
And now I'm stuck in the middle with you.

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 12:46:06 PM   
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Something that's worth noting is that while it becomes obvious while watching the full video that the crazy chick calling Obama a Nazi is a leftist LaRouche supporter, none of the media types that are covering the story mention that she's a leftist, they're happier misleading audience to believe that the crazies are Republicans.
Does it really make any difference what side of the spectrum any given crazy is from? Crazy is crazy, and the protests seem to be based on a lot of bullshit being read into the bills that aren't actually there.

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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 12:50:30 PM   
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It makes a difference.

Let me ask you this Arpig, what do you suppose the motivation was for rml to start this thread?

And the bullshit is in the bills, though that may be another thread.

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Does it really make any difference what side of the spectrum any given crazy is from? Crazy is crazy, and the protests seem to be based on a lot of bullshit being read into the bills that aren't actually there.


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RE: Rep. Frank lashes out at protester for Nazi remark - 8/19/2009 12:56:49 PM   
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And the bullshit is in the bills, though that may be another thread.
That's a load of crap. There have been threads on here where a poster went through the supposed "scary" bits of the bill and posted the exact wording for all to read. Every one of the "scary" bits was debunked....yet somehow that doesn't seem to make any difference. Anyway, its all irrelevant if you ask me. Its just more of the same old shit from Congress & its paymasters.

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