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Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 7:30:31 AM

DragonNphoenix

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Okay... I had started a thread on 'ask a submissive' board and it brought up a whole nother set of questions... So here I am..

I have come to terms with the fact that I am a pain slut... it took me almost a year to do this. I know at this point that the rush of the pain is almost orgasmic to me. I am okay with this. My question is this.... Does the need for said pain override the need to protect ones self?

Any replies would be most welcome... Thank you

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 7:33:33 AM

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Does the need for said pain override the need to protect ones self?

Yes, an addiction or lust for anything can sometimes override our sensible notions and understandings.

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 7:35:27 AM

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Does the need for said pain override the need to protect ones self?

Speaking from my own experience only

I would very loudly say NO. For me, because I crave pain so badly, it reinforces my OWN need to protect myself. Trusting my partner completly comes second to being able to trust and protect myself.

edited to add:

LOL am I reading the question wrong? Or just looking at it differently?

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 7:57:16 AM

DragonNphoenix

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist
LOL am I reading the question wrong? Or just looking at it differently?

No..you arent reading it wrong. I am looking for others thoughts and experiences.

Thank you

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 7:58:44 AM

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Depending on how far you are willing to go, I would have to say yes. This is when having a level headed, caring and knowledgeable partner comes in handy. Goin to broken bones isn't exactly safe, now is it? However, if you are still roaring and ready to go, and your Top is willing to continue, you may just end up that way. I think this is when BDSM may start to cross over into severe BME type body modification, which may be a viable route for the pain slut who understands what they are getting themselves into, as such acts are permanent. (I do not advocate nor am I against body modification of any kind.)

It is up to you to have a partner who knows when enough is enough, for the times you lose yourself in what is going on. However, reading your last post. I believe you have found that in your Dragon.

Me I have two very caring partners, although one who will lose himself in Domspace occassionally. He was very apologetic after, even when I told him it was not a problem.

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 9:03:33 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DragonNphoenix

Okay... I had started a thread on 'ask a submissive' board and it brought up a whole nother set of questions... So here I am..

I have come to terms with the fact that I am a pain slut... it took me almost a year to do this. I know at this point that the rush of the pain is almost orgasmic to me. I am okay with this. My question is this.... Does the need for said pain override the need to protect ones self?

Any replies would be most welcome... Thank you

1st Girl Phoenix

I would say that the need for pain that you are describing absolutely screams for protection. I know more than a few pain sluts. For whatever reason I tend to attract the very masochistic, and I love them dearly. In most instances these little darlings would rather the Dominant/Top break something than safeword. They love the pain so much that they willingly sacrifice their hides for it.

My opinion is that you and those like you need to be more careful that you are playing with an experienced Top, or have someone that knows you well watching on. I have seen people that think playing with a pain slut gives them license to unleash without care.

I know one such painslut that suffered from internal bleeding because of such behavior. He would allow anyone to play him and then received some horrible beatings that resulted in his passing out on the cross on more than one occasion and a few trips to the emergency room. Thankfully he accepted a collar of protection from another local couple and now has some supervision when being played.

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 9:20:27 AM

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I think that this doesn’t just apply to pain, but at anything which generates an adrenaline rush. I’ve been fire eating in a floorshow with the audience metaphorically in my hand. The adrenaline rush was so great I wanted to give them something extra special and didn’t care if I was set on fire… Safety instincts are great for bringing things back to reality in many cases. However it is all to easy to push the envelope too far as most people involved in extreme sports know only too well.

“You gotta play the game. It’s all in the game and how you play it!”

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 9:23:11 AM

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Most certainly. Pain is the body's cry to arms for a reason. That we may invert this pain and re-route it to be pleasurable does not remove the simple fact that in most cases it represents some form of damage.

It would stand to reason you may be addicted to being physically (and emotionally?) hurt, and like most addictions, they are not usually static. This is one of the reasons I discourage the pain slut in my slaves; the focus is to be on my pleasure, not their pain (which is inherently their pleasure, if so contrived). In addition, I tend to care for what is mine. I reserve physical and emotional pain for retribution. This may make me boring in the eyes of some, I know—but I want punishment to be exactly that.

My $0.02

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 9:46:23 AM

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The question could be seen as one of, is the need for a single experience greater than the need to enjoy subsequent experiences?

I attend an all you can eat sushi bar. I could, hypothetically, eat myself to death, enjoying salmon nigri until the moment of my demise. I do not. I eat (slightly more than) my fill, and whilst I could eat more, my enjoyment would not be heightened by it.

When I sub, a little bit of my brain keeps this allegory in mind, and while I enjoy a few things that could gain my partner an attempted murder charge, my passion for future experience. I want to feel close to death, but I want to feel close to death again next time.

Please, remember that whilst we do discuss ideas like addiction here, addicts don't just buy 2lb of coke and an enema syringe, they buy a set bag, and spend as much time cutting, measuring, recutting, and preparing a perfect hit, as they do actually floating (actually, a damn site more time).

OK, that uou taken care of, now your top. Back to the drug allegory, a hypodermic is a passive tool. it doesn't decide, "hey, lets see what an extra couple of grams will do to this schmuck", and if you're not in a state to say no, then well, they go to far, and you're screwwed, so....
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Communication is key.

you need to 100% trust that if you're screaming and drooling through a ballgag moremoremoremore, that your top will have the good sense to stop before he removes something that won't grow back. If you're lust for leisions has led you to find someone who has bonesaws by the bed, and stores his copy of Grays Anatomy next to his copy of the Atkins diet, then yup, thats too far. (but could you ask him to sent be the oyster pallettes?)

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 10:36:14 AM

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In this fact I believe that I am lucky. My Dragon has a firm grip on what my body can take. There have been several times that I have begged for more and was told flat out no. He will give me my rush but he wont push far enough that I am taken to the er. He values me and though we both like the battle scars that I bring from such a session, he is just as concerned in my before care and after care as he is the actual act itself.

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 10:58:19 AM

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An addiction for pain could be dangerous, yes, like any addiction of any kind can be.

However, you said you were a painslut, not a pain addict, so I think that your tolerance for pain and your emotional well being are safe within your own thresh hold and the trust you put in yourself and the person serving the pain to you.

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 11:04:23 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

Safety instincts are great for bringing things back to reality in many cases....

does the need for pain override the need to protect ones self? yes, and...
Master Iron Bear... have you known a slave that lacked 99.99% of her safety instincts? And if so, do you know if she was ever able to regain them?

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 11:09:59 AM

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Lucky Albatross... do you happen to know if a pain slut can regain her safety instincts when it comes to bdsm activities? A slave's Master may keep this under watch, but some slaves may find themselves with a Master who does not care about how much she is being damaged...

when a slave has so little control over the situation and more so, of herself... any tips on a way that she can somehow care more about the safety of her body, rather than the euphoric orgasmic state she finds herself lost in?

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 11:12:47 AM

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Sometimes I have to keep my desires in check. A Competent top has also balamced me a time or two telling me the ramifications of certain activities & being sure I understood those before play commenced.

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 11:15:30 AM

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1st Girl Phoenix... in case you don't know... the more painful experiences you have and enjoy... the more you will love and want it... the more you get it... the more damaged you may become... it's a cycle that feeds upon itself... and with this one, at least... can and has gotten wayyyy out of control over the years....

this one has suffered severe, life-changing and life long effects from being addicted to pain w/sex...

please, before you enjoy yourself TOO MUCH... decide what limits you will place on yourself and try to hang on to them for dear life! Just some advice from one a few miles farther down this road than where you are now.

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 11:16:48 AM

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Was that at a public club? If so who was monitoring the play? The beating should have been stopped before it reached that point.

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 11:25:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: phoenix1

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

Safety instincts are great for bringing things back to reality in many cases....

does the need for pain override the need to protect ones self? yes, and...
Master Iron Bear... have you known a slave that lacked 99.99% of her safety instincts? And if so, do you know if she was ever able to regain them?

Not personally, but I know her master and she did regain them with his help. From a non slave perspective, I went through a phase in 'Nam when I didn'y care if I came back in one piece or not.. being hospitalised with less that 24 hours to live sort of brought me back to reality....

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 11:29:36 AM

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quote:

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Was that at a public club? If so who was monitoring the play? The beating should have been stopped before it reached that point.

Why? If he'd played there often, they would have known he was a heavy player and liked it like that. There's no reason anyone else would have known he would do that.

Granted, the play should have stopped when he fainted (fainting is for private you know), but interfering with a scene is a serious deal, not to be done just because you don't like it.

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 11:30:57 AM

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quote:

Was that at a public club? If so who was monitoring the play? The beating should have been stopped before it reached that point

Talmar, I don't think Phoenix1 was referring to one session, but her limits being pushed further and further over time...?

My Best, Kevin

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RE: Pain slut questions - 2/24/2006 11:58:48 AM

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I have found however, that if you go into play knowing you don't want to come out of play in more than one piece, it does make it easier for you to get out of a situation before it becomes dangerous.

However, yes I believe the best scenerio is having a Top who cares about who you are as a person, rather than how far they can push you, and what they can do to you. Such a person would not want to break his toys now would he?

It is also best to know how quickly you regenerate after a session. People heal up differently and at different rates than other people. I'm lucky in that I heal very quickly, sometimes to the extent Ive surprised people.

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