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endorphinhussy -> When your property already carries a mark (8/20/2009 10:41:14 PM)
A recent bit on what type of mark and where to put it on ones property made me thoughtful upon a similar subject. As a Dom/me, if a new property is collared by you and carries a mark from a former owner, what are your feelings on this? Are you tempted or do you require that s/he have it covered up? Does it squick you when you see it? Does it generally make your desire to mark your property stronger whereas before you may never have done? Do certain locations make that worse? How does this issue affect you? ~ hussy "this girls neck is bare, and the weight of nothing is unbearable."

NuevaVida -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/20/2009 10:50:57 PM)
I have a mark from my former owner. My current owner does not like it. I did cover it once, with a large bandage, but of all things, I am allergic to adhesive and I ended up with terrible hives as a result - oh yay. He said there's no point in getting sick (literally) about it, and frankly he was focused on me to the point where he hardly noticed it. Eventually the mark (a tattoo on my right hip) will be removed, when finances allow it. For now, we consider it a scar, as if from an injury. For the most part we both forget that it's there and don't give it any energy.

Surata -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 12:06:27 AM)
I wouldn't worry about it if someone I chose to take in that capacity already had a mark. I've always thought that our past experiences shape who we are today, and that would include evidence of former ownership. I wouldn't require him to cover it up or get it removed, but I would definitely support his decision to do so.

TurboJugend -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 12:12:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: endorphinhussy A recent bit on what type of mark and where to put it on ones property made me thoughtful upon a similar subject. As a Dom/me, if a new property is collared by you and carries a mark from a former owner, what are your feelings on this? Are you tempted or do you require that s/he have it covered up? Does it squick you when you see it? Does it generally make your desire to mark your property stronger whereas before you may never have done? Do certain locations make that worse? How does this issue affect you? ~ hussy "this girls neck is bare, and the weight of nothing is unbearable." In theory i think many people want to be the first in everyting when they meet their perfect one. Propably that counts for branding too. When I became soem older those things became less important to me. If she has just 1 brand and not the whole body covered then I am fine with it, not saying I might not have it covered later. And hopefully it is not to big see you have to see it all the time. It is important to think good about branding. Not doing it in the first week of a relation, else we have subs/slaves covered in marks.

LillyoftheVally -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 2:14:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Surata I wouldn't worry about it if someone I chose to take in that capacity already had a mark. I've always thought that our past experiences shape who we are today, and that would include evidence of former ownership. I wouldn't require him to cover it up or get it removed, but I would definitely support his decision to do so. This is how I would hope people would respond to it. On the reverse I would never have a problem if a dominant had a tattoo signifying a past relationship. As Surata said, it is simply a part of how we got to where we are.

slaveluci -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 8:10:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida He said there's no point in getting sick (literally) about it, and frankly he was focused on me to the point where he hardly noticed it. Eventually the mark (a tattoo on my right hip) will be removed, when finances allow it. For now, we consider it a scar, as if from an injury. For the most part we both forget that it's there and don't give it any energy. Hi NuevaVida! Long time, no read[:)] I'm so glad things are going well for you. I'd have to agree (surprise, surprise) with what you wrote. I have quite a large tattoo on the front of my left shoulder that not only is symbolic of my former marriage but was actually done by my ex-husband. It had a lot of significance at the time it was done. Initially, Master mentioned having some work done over it to transform it into something else more suitable and representative of us and I was all for it. But...as time went by....both of us just kind of forgot about the idea and, as you said, don't give it any "energy." It's a pretty, unique tat and doesn't really represent anything other than that to either of us. I think we both know any power or symbolism it once held is long since gone. It's not an eyesore and since neither of us are that eager to spend alot of money trying to cover it up, we've just kind of let it be. As others have alluded to, it's just kind of a pretty "scar" that's a reminder, if you will, of somewhere and someone I USED to be and that's OK..............luci

SteelofUtah -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 9:33:12 AM)
I believe in branding/marking. andi and I have been together 3 years and she still does not have a mark. caryn has been with us considerably shorter and also does not have a mark. When I do mark them it will be meaningful. and it will be permanent. I think I would have a bigger issue having my mark on a slave who is no longer with me then having a slave who had a mark who was no longer with that master. Reason: I take it seriously, I am not about just arbitrarily putting my name on things. Marking a slave means I take lifetime responsibility for them as just as their mark will be there forever, you may be able to remove the visible signs of a mark but it is ALWAYS there. Steel

VampiresLair -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 9:40:07 AM)
Relationships and people change. My exhusband had a tattoo of his exwife's name on his shoulder, and that didnt really bother me It was a constant reminder of a mistake he had made, and not to make it again. Sometimes, it would be nice if he paied attention to the reminder... I never assume I will be or am someone's first. Some masters are very fast to mark property, becasue they are insecure and think a fast mark will make the relationship more likely to hold. Some submissives and slaves are desperate for the attention and the feeling of being wanted that the request for a mark or demand for one gives them. There are a lot of reasons why people leave relationships after they ahve been marked. I prefer to think of them as reminders of what not to do wrong again, and what has made you who you are, than anything else. Fox will be getting a tattoo, eventually. I am his first, and hope to be his always. We are waiting until after the wedding, and more than 2 years in to even consider it. D

Mercnbeth -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 10:20:54 AM)
quote: As a Dom/me, if a new property is collared by you and carries a mark from a former owner, what are your feelings on this? Nobody comes into a relationship without 'marks'. Some are visible, some hidden. It's easy to cover up the visible ones, but commonly it is the hidden ones which have a bigger impact when they are disclosed. That being said... I appreciate every 'mark' that beth carries. No, she didn't have a tattoo or anything like it representing a visible benchmark of a prior relationship, but like the rest of us she wasn't 'unblemished', physically or emotionally, when we met. I love each and every one - right down to the smallest freckles. You see, without those marks she would not be who and what she is today. We are a product of all prior 'marks' on our life. We are who we are because of them. ALL beth's experiences, the bad and the good, were progression marks eventually leading to the person who I love and share my life. I don't regret any - I'm grateful that they are there. Who knows which one, if not there, would have taken her on another path where we would have never met? That's why I don't resent any 'mark'. We both have marks that we wish we didn't experience; however no matter how ugly or painful, we appreciate that without them we may not have each other not. Both of us feel being together was well worth the marks we carry.

LaTigresse -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 11:08:16 AM)
Merc that is beautifully written. For me, it would depend. I don't like tattoos, never have and likely never will. They are simply, visually unappealing. Similarly most breast implants. It's not a matter of how or why, but that I do not like them. So, that being said, IF the tattoo was something that could be removed relatively easily, it would be. The implants would definitely go. Other marks tend to fall in along with what Merc already wrote. I am not so insecure, that the reminder of others will upset me.

sirsholly -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 11:26:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth Nobody comes into a relationship without 'marks'. Some are visible, some hidden. It's easy to cover up the visible ones, but commonly it is the hidden ones which have a bigger impact when they are disclosed. That being said... I appreciate every 'mark' that beth carries. No, she didn't have a tattoo or anything like it representing a visible benchmark of a prior relationship, but like the rest of us she wasn't 'unblemished', physically or emotionally, when we met. I love each and every one - right down to the smallest freckles. You see, without those marks she would not be who and what she is today. We are a product of all prior 'marks' on our life. We are who we are because of them. ALL beth's experiences, the bad and the good, were progression marks eventually leading to the person who I love and share my life. I don't regret any - I'm grateful that they are there. Who knows which one, if not there, would have taken her on another path where we would have never met? That's why I don't resent any 'mark'. We both have marks that we wish we didn't experience; however no matter how ugly or painful, we appreciate that without them we may not have each other not. Both of us feel being together was well worth the marks we carry. [sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif]

Musicmystery -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 1:58:43 PM)
So look for the union label...

LaTigresse -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 2:02:45 PM)
Oh bugger all!! You made me snort water through my nose.

leadership527 -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 2:20:09 PM)
quote: NuevaVida said: He said there's no point in getting sick (literally) about it, and frankly he was focused on me to the point where he hardly noticed it. Eventually the mark (a tattoo on my right hip) will be removed, when finances allow it. For now, we consider it a scar, as if from an injury. For the most part we both forget that it's there and don't give it any energy. I like your current owner :) That's my kind of pragmatism.

LadyPact -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 2:26:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: As a Dom/me, if a new property is collared by you and carries a mark from a former owner, what are your feelings on this? Nobody comes into a relationship without 'marks'. Some are visible, some hidden. It's easy to cover up the visible ones, but commonly it is the hidden ones which have a bigger impact when they are disclosed. That being said... I appreciate every 'mark' that beth carries. No, she didn't have a tattoo or anything like it representing a visible benchmark of a prior relationship, but like the rest of us she wasn't 'unblemished', physically or emotionally, when we met. I love each and every one - right down to the smallest freckles. You see, without those marks she would not be who and what she is today. We are a product of all prior 'marks' on our life. We are who we are because of them. ALL beth's experiences, the bad and the good, were progression marks eventually leading to the person who I love and share my life. I don't regret any - I'm grateful that they are there. Who knows which one, if not there, would have taken her on another path where we would have never met? That's why I don't resent any 'mark'. We both have marks that we wish we didn't experience; however no matter how ugly or painful, we appreciate that without them we may not have each other not. Both of us feel being together was well worth the marks we carry. Honestly, Merc, there are some days that you just blow Me out of the water. That was a great post.

Vendaval -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 2:27:57 PM)
I am not bothered by such marks. Our past experiences shape our personal expression and present relationships.

NuevaVida -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 8:47:31 PM)
luci: That's really it. It's what I used to be. And it's good to see you too [:)] Merc: Wonderful post, thank you for putting it out there because it sealed a couple of things in my mind for me. Leadership: I like him, too. [:)]

IronBear -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/21/2009 9:54:21 PM)
I'd add to the mark, especially if it is a tattoo and make it mine. Esoterically speaking this is not only easy but also a powerful method.

masterlink65 -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/24/2009 9:41:40 PM)
i can see if you have short comings of your own, or some sort of self esteem issue. but why should the past relations of a slave be any more concern to you than what your previous situations have been. my experience with a pre-owned slave is that, if its original owner is not dead, then the slave is probably not worth a fuck. that has been my experience.

IronBear -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/24/2009 10:42:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: masterlink65 i can see if you have short comings of your own, or some sort of self esteem issue. but why should the past relations of a slave be any more concern to you than what your previous situations have been. my experience with a pre-owned slave is that, if its original owner is not dead, then the slave is probably not worth a fuck. that has been my experience. There is that of course and in some cases that is undoubtedly true but the converse also applies, it is also possible that the slave's previous owner isn't or wasn't worth a fuck either. perhaps to see this in yet another window could it not be possible that the slave and previous owner simply grew/developed apart and were finally not compatible. That is of course a win, win situation with no blame attached.

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