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SweetNika -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 1:01:41 AM)
IB, I know a few virgin chasers both male and female. masterlinks65, You come across as very angry and jaded in your posts and THAT is all I personally get in them, your messages beyond that are lost in those emotions. I'm not just speaking of this thread but in EVERY post that I have read of yours. I have meet doms who lie about their experiences, its sad really b/c I wouldn't respect them any less if they were honest about being a novice after all we all started out as new. MasterSlaveLA, I wear many marks only 1 from a former owner but none the less, every tattoo I have signifies an event in my life. Being in my former M/s relationship was significant so i am glad I wear that mark. How is that him or I being insecure? Infact to me it means that we secure in what we were to one another. Do you not wear your owners'mark" as your screen name so in a sense is that not the same as a virtual tattooo?lol

BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 1:11:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetNika IB, I know a few virgin chasers both male and female. masterlinks65, You come across as very angry and jaded in your posts and THAT is all I personally get in them, your messages beyond that are lost in those emotions. I'm not just speaking of this thread but in EVERY post that I have read of yours. I have meet doms who lie about their experiences, its sad really b/c I wouldn't respect them any less if they were honest about being a novice after all we all started out as new. MasterSlaveLA, I wear many marks only 1 from a former owner but none the less, every tattoo I have signifies an event in my life. Being in my former M/s relationship was significant so i am glad I wear that mark. How is that him or I being insecure? Infact to me it means that we secure in what we were to one another. Do you not wear your owners'mark" as your screen name so in a sense is that not the same as a virtual tattooo?lol I agree with you nika, every mark is a remembrance of a certain time in your life to be remembered,Some owners try to cover the previous owners marks with large ugly tats,I have a girl that has the K on her thigh from previous owner,That doesn't bother me in the least for now she is MINE..BOUNTY

SweetNika -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 1:20:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER quote: ORIGINAL: SweetNika IB, I know a few virgin chasers both male and female. masterlinks65, You come across as very angry and jaded in your posts and THAT is all I personally get in them, your messages beyond that are lost in those emotions. I'm not just speaking of this thread but in EVERY post that I have read of yours. I have meet doms who lie about their experiences, its sad really b/c I wouldn't respect them any less if they were honest about being a novice after all we all started out as new. MasterSlaveLA, I wear many marks only 1 from a former owner but none the less, every tattoo I have signifies an event in my life. Being in my former M/s relationship was significant so i am glad I wear that mark. How is that him or I being insecure? Infact to me it means that we secure in what we were to one another. Do you not wear your owners'mark" as your screen name so in a sense is that not the same as a virtual tattooo?lol I agree with you nika, every mark is a remembrance of a certain time in your life to be remembered,Some owners try to cover the previous owners marks with large ugly tats,I have a girl that has the K on her thigh from previous owner,That doesn't bother me in the least for now she is MINE..BOUNTY I would NEVER remove my tats even Phoenix's mark, covering them up with makeup for formal events is one thing but to cover it up with another tat tyically does not turn out good (from what I have seen). Every tattoo artist I know, and i know alot HATE cover up tats (I would think that would be for a reason)

mixielicous -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 1:38:44 AM)
excuse my reply in a masters thread, i am marked by tattoo but it was designed more to reflect myself than it was to reflect him. simply his design on a sentimental date makes it a former mark. A symbol, name or initials to represent a man will be reserved for discussion after marriage, the creme de la creme of collars IMO.

LillyoftheVally -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 2:29:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetNika to cover it up with another tat tyically does not turn out good (from what I have seen). Every tattoo artist I know, and i know alot HATE cover up tats (I would think that would be for a reason) I had a tat covered, its perfect and my brother in law didn't even blink when I asked him to do it.

SweetNika -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 4:51:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally quote: ORIGINAL: SweetNika to cover it up with another tat tyically does not turn out good (from what I have seen). Every tattoo artist I know, and i know alot HATE cover up tats (I would think that would be for a reason) I had a tat covered, its perfect and my brother in law didn't even blink when I asked him to do it. I am not saying it cant or isn't done but allof the artistist I know HATE doing them b/c they are either cleaning up someone elses mess (fixing a bad tat) or covering up a tat someone has grown to regret.

IronBear -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 4:59:06 AM)
I'm told the harder job is repairing tatts which have been damaged (I am in need of one being repaired due to a couple of sword scars messing them up) or freshening up older tats which have faded. I also have one of a girl dressed in red showing great cleavage and legs up to the thigh . I basically want the name suzi tattooed over and the word "kajira" placed below. The excellent tattoo artists I know and have done some artwork for, have no professional issues about removing or covering a tatt but it is a bitch of a job to do it right or so they tell me.

SweetNika -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 5:09:46 AM)
lol THAT is / was my point IB they will do it but it is a bitch to do alot of the time and as far as touching up tats the guy who has done the majority of my work is heavy handed so they dont need to be touched up and the one that does b/c of where it is located well I touch up about once a yr w/o any problems but I went from touching up the color to making it black and gray.

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 7:56:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear quote: ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA Personally, I find the whole "marking" thing prettly silly, and quite frankly insecure of the person desiring said "mark". Bottom Line: If someone hasn't made a "mark" on your heart and mind, no physical mark is going to make a difference. Oh really? Strange that but then I guess those folk who have things like their military unit or ship tattooed would be insecure and have a need to keep proving that they were part of that unit or ship. You just made my point for me... so "insecure", they need to PROVE something to another. Those who are secure, don't need to PROVE anything to anyone; including themselves. If someone needs to mark (or be marked) to PROVE one belongs to you (or that said person belongs to another), then I find that insecure. You may not... I do. GASP... a different opinion from your own... oh the horror of it all!!!

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 8:01:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetNika Do you not wear your owners'mark" as your screen name so in a sense is that not the same as a virtual tattooo? No. This website, and with others, REQUIRES you to have a screen name and password to participate. Thus, the use of a screen name.

masterlink65 -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 8:20:47 AM)
heavy handed has nothing to do with the pigment staying or not. i am not angry and jaded/ i think you are only reading what you want and how you want. maybe a bit jaded. i have done alot, seen alot, and have been to alot of places i am experienced and confident. everyone wants to check me on here, but when i give them a chance to meet me in the real world everyone shuts the fuck up. i will be in DC at Master/slave conference labor day weekend. master taino asked me to attend to light the candle at the ceremony to honor my slave bruno who passed away last year. bruno is having a volunteer award in his name given out. i am to hand out the first award at the banquet. so if you want to check things out, meet me there, and maybe you people can stick top the thread and original post instead of worrying me. sorry that the truth seems to hurt alot of peoples feelings. if you want to talk tattoos, that is what i do for a living. so dont listen to people who think they know. i have been tattooing for over 10 years. have been running my own shop for over 6 thank you for your concern. i really think you only read what you want and then put your own twist on it. this is not emotion speaking ,, its experience

IronBear -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 11:06:26 AM)
I need a couple of repairs other than the sword scars, but then again my tatts date back to 1963 so it is reasonable to figure some areas need recolouring.... I have some idea on how hard it is to fix errors though having had to do that with engravings and still end up with an acceptable piece of work.

porcelaine -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 11:23:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: masterlink65 i am not expecting a virgin. i am expecting someone who tells me they have experience, then they show up and are a novice. why do people pretend to be something they are not? i can't answer that for you. but with any relationship there are risks involved. very few people lay all their cards on the table going in. if it is security or a guarantee that you're seeking, you're barking up the wrong tree. porcelaine

SteelofUtah -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 12:08:46 PM)
My son's name will be Tattooed on me soon. It has nothing to do with Proving that I have a son or any insecurity. I do it because it means something to me. I do everything I do because it means something to ME. If you think it's silly..... Fuck Off. I really don't care what you think about what I do anyway, it's not like I'm all the sudden going to go "Oh My god this person thinks it's silly I should stop doing that." Tattoo's have many different meaning. When someone is Branded it is a Mark Forever, whatever it means to the individual is all that matters. Sure some people do it for the wrong reasons but it is always their choice to make. As I said already I would feel worse knowing that My mark was on a slave who was no longer in my collar then I would having a slave who had someone elses mark. My Integrity requires that I make those decisions very carefully. Steel

IronBear -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 3:26:23 PM)
All your blather does is to demonstrate your narrow mindedness and lack of tolerance of those who see things different you you. Your attempt at sarcasm falls short. There are many here who have different opinions and beliefs to mine and it may surprise you that we enjoy and indeed celebrate our differences as well as respecting them. Your snide little remarks belittling those who find meanings in being and having marks shows just how shallow you are. I won't even attempt to instruct you on why I mark a girl and the esoteric reasons behind such marks.

ANRsub -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 3:47:43 PM)
In reply to "You just made my point for me... so "insecure", they need to PROVE something to another. Those who are secure, don't need to PROVE anything to anyone; including themselves. If someone needs to mark (or be marked) to PROVE one belongs to you (or that said person belongs to another), then I find that insecure. You may not... I do. GASP... a different opinion from your own... oh the horror of it all!!! " Please read the below : From a bit of experience in the Navy, the bit about having one's ship or some special unit-mark tatoo'd ISN'T about insecurity, it is about PRIDE, wanting others in that service to know whence they draw their pride and sense of community. The difference twixt insecurity and pride is HUGE. I would expect someone in this community, one in which there are many seeking to belong-to another, and to be proud of them and that status, to possibly understand that, While it isn't universal anymore about sailors all having tattoo's, (Some of us had to avoid "Identifying marks, scars, or tattoo's") I understand the reasoning. Opinion noted. logical fallacy recognized and dealt-with. ANRsub

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 4:16:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ANRsub ...it is about PRIDE, wanting others in that service to know whence they draw their pride and sense of community. Ummm.... "wanting others"??? Sorry, but here again this exemplifies a need to have others view you in a certain light. I find that insecure. Why you may ask? Because a marking (be it a tattoo or otherwise) will not add or diminish the supposed "pride" that you speak of in something/someone. If it does, then that stems from insecurity. Would you have any less "pride" without the marking? Probably not... thus, logic dictaes the need for said marking stems from something else. Insecurity in needing/wanting others to view you a certain way... insecurity in needing/wanting to see yourself a certain way... and so on.

IronBear -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/26/2009 9:24:41 PM)
Whilst it is possible for us to agree to disagree in some of these areas provided you are not belittling those who disagree with you, I am curious ion what basis you make these statements. Are they just long standing personal opinions with no arguable area based on research or study, or do you have a background in a discipline in areas dealing with insecurities and associated manners. I only ask this because over a dinner the other night, several of us were discussing this very thing and one chap, a Freudian psychologist, argued in much the same vein that you do. It was interesting in as much that the rest of us are trained in the Jungian Psychology Discipline. Aye I know I'm a curious old fart but that is just me.

SailingBum -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/27/2009 1:09:15 AM)
Im with the " I dont get it crowd" girl walks into a tat parlor says I want his name im in love blah blah. Tat dude looks bored says "are you sure"? she like yea "this time its for sure... Tat dude looks says "Ive heard this all before" are you sure ... well you get the idea ..same girl come back 3 months later says "Ummm can you cover up the tat" Guess what Not in this LIFE TIME are you gonna mark me. Furthermore I have enuff respect for what I own NOT to give her a perm mark... Cuz guess what the 0dds are so against any relationship lasting. I can hear lots of folks saying to themselves "but you dont understand I really love him and your so wrong". Uhhh I thought we just covered that. BadOne

ranja -> RE: When your property already carries a mark (8/27/2009 1:37:48 AM)
I don't get the tattoo stuff much either... i am interested when i see a tattoo on someone, i like diversity but i do not get the willingness of people to put this permanent mark on themselves, it somehow tells me they are short term thinkers and i wonder if they play chess.... i think i prefer henna, hickies and bubblegum stickers... So also i do not get the confidence of the tattoo artist to put this mark on another person, i am of the opinion that eventhough a person might choose their tattoo or even design their own, ultimately they are walking around with a mark of a tatoo artist, not their own mark, not their masters mark, to me it will always be the tattoo artist work and some are not so good at it... I have been asked to learn the art... i am arty, no fear of needles, the tutor and equipment was available... but i do not have the confidence to doodle people up like this and if a customer would come back complaining then no matter how much they wanted the name or whatever on them in the first place... i would feel guilty for drawing it on and not being able to wipe it off again... i rather use biro...

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