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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I think intellectual equals as well as intellectual superiors can be submissives/slaves......after all, what pleasure is there in owning a roll of fucktards?

Ron

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ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

Can an intellectual equal not be a submissive/slave? Or should I not open that can of worms.

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ORIGINAL: bmtphoenix

Wow.  And to think I thought it was a legitimate question/idea.  How utterly, completely stupid of me.  I'll be sure never to say such things here again.

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ORIGINAL: SweetNika

Why is it so important to stick labels on everything or try to make them fit into neat little boxes? In some dynamics what you describe can either be d/s, m/s, or a 50's household .

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ORIGINAL: bmtphoenix

noun - Someone who is willingly submissive to another person, and only that person.  Like a wife or husband (not necessarily legally married, but with the same degree of devotion) in that "He's mine and I'm hers, anything else is cheating, immoral, and unacceptable," but with one being submissive and the other being dominant. 

This person:

1. Generally defers to their other in any final decisions and/or arguments.
   
2. Willingly does what they are told to do by their other.
   
3. Is generally respected as an intellectual equal.
   
4. Can willingly leave their other.
   
5. Is NOT broken, brainwashed, or in any way forced into this role.

This person may or may not:

1. Have a dominating personality around people other than their "other half".
   
2. Have a job where he/she does not answer to their other.
   
3. Retain any of these traits in sexual situations.
   
4. Regularly verbalize their own opinion and viewpoint.
   
5. Have their "own thing" going on such as a hobby or business that has nothing to do with their other.
   
6. Own property of their own.
   
7. Be seen as property by either party, though it should be stated if that is the case or not.
   
8. Be subject to other stated rules.
   
9. Be subject to any type of domination in public.
   
10. Be marked in any way, such as a tattoo or collar.
    
11. Be subject to any type of punishment for any perceived or stated misbehavior.
    
12. Be married.
    
13. Be male or female (though if someone wants to come up with a male and female version, that's fine by me).

Sort of like a stereotypical 50's housewife, but with far more social "rights".

Why "slave" doesn't work:  Most definitions include the term "work" and conjure images of punishment as a matter of course.  Punishment may or may not be part of the relationship, and may or may not be as clear cut as one would expect of a stated slave/master relationship.  Slaves also may or may not be subject to being sold or traded.  This person is submissive only to one other person, no other. 

Why "sub" or "submissive" doesn't work:  Isn't really seen outside of the BDSM community as a noun, but as an adjective.  Doesn't specify devotion to one person exclusively.  May or may not be situational.

Why "kajira" doesn't work: Far too specific in all areas of life, including property ownership, etc.

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

Can an intellectual equal not be a submissive/slave? Or should I not open that can of worms.

Let's open it I'm in that kind of mood.....
here goes with thanks to the Thesaurus
bondservant, captive, chattel, drudge, help, laborer, menial, peon, retainer, serf, servant, skivvy, subservient, thrall, toiler, vassal, victim, worker, workhorse, call girl, escort, harlot, hooker, hustler, lady of the evening, slut, streetwalker, strumpet, tramp, working girl. damsel, daughter, lady, lassie, mademoiselle, she, bride, companion, consort, helpmate, mate, monogamist, other half, partner, roommate, spouseand out of that lot I wuld choose...CONSORT..