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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/25/2009 9:23:43 PM   
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Oh, thought this was an informative Viagra thread.

Never mind.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 3:36:59 AM   
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*giggle*  

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 4:24:54 AM   
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You gotta loooooooove chia !!

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 5:39:28 AM   
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I just want to chain him down and beat him then love him and hug him and stroke him and call him George and then start all over again.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 7:39:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MsStarlett

I just want to chain him down and beat him then love him and hug him and stroke him and call him George and then start all over again.


Sooooo, that would be au contraire to the lather, rinse, repeat of shampoo.

More a fluid, fragrant, fulfilling bottle of BDSM.

Humiliate, beat, repeat.

And I say to myself, what a wonderful worrrrrrrld.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 8:06:59 AM   
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You know, it really isn't that hard...

I've been on this site for a few days and already I've read a bunch of threads with other guys complaining about how hard it is to communicate with real women on CM. I really haven't had a problem, and so far I've been looking for primarily Dommes. As I understand it, such a task is somewhat like running the gauntlet because of the ratios of male subs to Dommes, minus Dommes who only want females and pro-Dommes.

Okay, so I haven't met anyone in person yet, but I have gotten replies from all but one with CM mail. A few replies, as a matter of fact. Albeit one was a polite "thanks for your message, but I'm looking for a relationship and age difference, etc." Nevertheless, the only REAL problem I've had with Dommes on CM is lack of local quantity and NOT their quality (per-say). Oh, and the people on the forum are most certainly real and very cool people. Try messaging one of them, but for the love of God you should always be polite and interesting.

Interesting is really what you need to have going for you, kink, vanilla, or otherwise, if you want to meet a woman. I would imagine that not only are Dommes inundated with crappy messages or one-liners, but also with novels of slaves/subs trying to be as polite as possible talking about "serve serve serve serve" and making themselves come across about as interesting as cardboard flavored oatmeal. Yeah, of course you want to serve... you're on CM listed as sub/slave etc... and of course they know you want to do kink things... you're on CM! So telling them how you would love to serve by doing xyz, and what a good submissive you are: it isn't really news to them.

I haven't even mentioned kinks in my messages. I'm not sure of my specific ones anyways, but I do have that nifty interests thing on my profile that Dommes can look at. All I would do in a message that I did message kink is say, "I saw you like/love/live for a,b,c, and I really like them to. I'm also interested in p,q,r, and I think we would be compatible."

But then I would talk about what I have to offer, which is different from serving -imo. I have a lot to offer, much of it vanilla, some of it translates into kink; however, I'm a wholistic kind of person. I don't believe you can really seperate yourself into vanilla/kink, because there is bleed-over. You're still one person, so I like to highlight my vanilla qualities and traits which I esteem and say how those also translate into kink. I basically paint succinct a picture of myself and underscore why having me would make said Domme happier/have more fun.

I also ALWAYS read whole profiles and journals and try to reference them, but only if I read something that I really liked. Then I'll talk about that. Not only should it make the Domme feel good that I liked something she read, but it also shows there is a level of compatibility in our interests or attitudes.

Additionally, I point them to my own profile in the first message. I feel my profile gives a decent portrait and flavor of me as a person and what I'm looking for here. It 1.) Tells me about the Domme if she will read it (such as she is interested enough to take the time), and 2.) it also lets the Domme know about me... it is a *profile* after all. And I've had a message or two back saying that what I've written there makes me seem fairly intriguing despite whether or not that's what they are looking for.


I understand it can be confusing sometimes, trying to figure out what to write to Dommes. I ripped up the idea of a message centered on how you could serve a Domme, when I have also read so many Dommes in profiles or postings rip up messages containing "I, I, I" from a sub. But here's the nuance, serve and offer really aren't the same. I'm sorry, Ma'am Domme, but I can't really tell you how i would fit into your model of dream-sub, since I've never met you in person and only read a profile and journal online that took all of 5 minutes. - Now, I do believe most serious Dommes understand this anyways, and most serious Dommes probably do want to get to know potential subs. The way to accomplish what everyone wants (from a male sub point of view) is you highlight yourself and what makes you awesome, not what you NEED or WANT (unless wants are compatible with the Domme, and then phrase it briefly and as compatibility), and say why your awesomeness in her life would make her life more awesome too.

I could go on and on, but..... I'm not getting paid for this motivational rant. Therefore -



TL;DR version:

Stop complaining and try to intrigue a Domme instead of throwing yourself spinelessly at one's feet. Unless you know someone with a jello or otherwise quivering-mass fetish, I don't think that will work.

And I'm sure they don't need *another* offer for all their housework to be done.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 8:19:49 AM   
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Stop complaining and try to intrigue a Domme instead of throwing yourself spinelessly at one's feet.



"What's that thing on floor by the 18th Century Chippendale Mahogany Gainsborough Library Armchair Helen?"

"I'm really not sure Marge, but it makes for quite the foot warmer on a chilly Autumn night."

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 8:30:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

"What's that thing on floor by the 18th Century Chippendale Mahogany Gainsborough Library Armchair Helen?"

"I'm really not sure Marge, but it makes for quite the foot warmer on a chilly Autumn night."

chia* (the pet)



Ha!

Touché, my good sir.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 12:49:50 PM   
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Watersports a hard limit?
Give me strength.
I think I'll go hang up my whips lol.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 12:53:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

quote:

ORIGINAL: jaxstudent


Stop complaining and try to intrigue a Domme instead of throwing yourself spinelessly at one's feet.



"What's that thing on floor by the 18th Century Chippendale Mahogany Gainsborough Library Armchair Helen?"

"I'm really not sure Marge, but it makes for quite the foot warmer on a chilly Autumn night."

chia* (the pet)




What? This old thing Marge? Just an old broken-down, slavish sort of footstool I picked up at the CollarMe flea market......they were going to throw it away anyhow, and in a moment of weakness, well, I really didn't need it......but thought I might use it as a dustrag...

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 1:08:09 PM   
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Venting in your profile is just as unattractive as venting in real life.  People with issues are not pleasant company.  So one more vote to re-write that profile! I would ditch more than the paragraph at the beginning--I would ditch the whole attitude that inspires it and all the resentment it breeds.


i really wish more realized this. it truly is a turnoff and i'm glad to see i'm not the only one that feels that way. i even mentioned it in a journal entry.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 1:09:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: porcelaine

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

Venting in your profile is just as unattractive as venting in real life.  People with issues are not pleasant company.  So one more vote to re-write that profile! I would ditch more than the paragraph at the beginning--I would ditch the whole attitude that inspires it and all the resentment it breeds.


i really wish more realized this. it truly is a turnoff and i'm glad to see i'm not the only one that feels that way. i even mentioned it in a journal entry.

porcelaine



not in a venting sort of way, one hopes, porcelaine.

R

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 1:19:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

not in a venting sort of way, one hopes, porcelaine.

R


not at all. just a helpful hint for my fellow brethren.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/26/2009 5:19:17 PM   
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the answer to both your questions is yes. as a living human it is inevitable that you are doing something wrong, and whether or not it is supposed to be hard it is, so don't think it's just you, after all the number one internet money maker right after porn is relationship sites.  the only real option is to suck it up and learn to live with the fact that it is a very real possibility for you and everyone else that despite all your best efforts you may very well spend a lifetime alone

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/27/2009 8:52:36 PM   
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Posting an intelligent comment in the forums is the best way to get noticed, I just had a very pleasant time perving jaxstudent's profile! Damn shame he's across the big pond and rather young for Me ... though heck, if he lived here, I'd happily engage with him for a while and provide some experiences which might help him find his way to the next stage of his journey. I really liked the fact that he's not "desperate and dateless" and is totally open about the fact that he really can't know yet what level of involvement he might ultimately seek. Excellent profile, very mature comments. How long before he finds someone? I predict, not long!

Maam Jay aka violet[A]

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/28/2009 4:01:57 AM   
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Isn't that the truth!  I've found so many male subs on the message boards that I would just love to eat up.  Sadly, the ones I find most delicious are very far away.

OP... Just like real life, you gotta say something that makes people want to get to know you.


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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/28/2009 8:26:46 AM   
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Don't really mean to nitpick, but it can't hurt to use the right word. DOMINANT is an adjective. DOMINATE is a verb.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/28/2009 8:57:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lateralist1

Watersports a hard limit?
Give me strength.
I think I'll go hang up my whips lol.


He's only 21; I suspect his interests will mature as time goes on. Give the kid a break ! He managed a very nice post.


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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/28/2009 9:13:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: daintydimples
*snip*
He's only 21


His profile says he's 31.  I do give him points for taking most of the negative stuff out of his profile (I'd still remove the complaining journal entry) and wish him well.

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RE: Am I doing something wrong or is it this hard? - 8/28/2009 9:18:11 AM   
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*snip*
He's only 21


His profile says he's 31.  I do give him points for taking most of the negative stuff out of his profile (I'd still remove the complaining journal entry) and wish him well.


Both the Lateralist and I were referring to Jaxstudent, not the OP. Jaxstudent is 21 per his profile. Sorry for the confusion.


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