Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/29/2009 12:35:29 PM   
Lockit


Posts: 11292
Joined: 5/7/2007
Status: offline
How many young people do we have around here complainging about depression? Or some other thing that is wrong in life? Try it at an older age with less resources. Try it year after year, no change in your life... Joy is your strength, I firmly believe this. I get through on my happiness. I can have a day from hell but am able to get through because I have hope, a dream, family and a bit of money where I can buy a movie or go out to eat once in a while. I am not totally alone.

Yet... I was very ill at one point. The people in that twelve story didn't see me for months. I laid in that bed nearing death because of lacks in the medical treatment and no help for decent food and no money for it. Someone took the time to get me good food and green magma. I got a little stronger. I got to the point where I was able to take walks and go out and joined the other's. Now, I had no tv, no radio, no online and spoke to no one for weeks at a time. It was winter and no one had any place to meet and I didn't know anyone yet.

If we don't take all the facts into a situation then we do a disservice to those we may be judging.

I have never been a negative person. I can sit around my house totally alone and have fun... but sometimes the lonely, the sick, the pain, the need for better food, a little help and all that... can make for one hell of a depression in some folks. I dare anybody to simulate this in their life and then question the neurotic old folks with nothing better to do than feel sorry for themselves and work themselves into being unpleasent people. Do the time...

_____________________________

No matter how old a woman gets, some men will think she was born yesterday! ROFL... I love this place!


(in reply to pahunkboy)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/29/2009 7:44:48 PM   
velvetears


Posts: 2933
Joined: 6/19/2006
Status: offline
i think also they talk about what ails them because it's an emotional trauma to live with a constant ailment that no one can fix because it is probably due to the aging process.  Imagine going to the doctor with real symptoms that cause you distress, change your life functioning capacity only to be told... Well Mrs. Oldlady you aren't getting any younger, it's just part of getting older.... blah blah blah.  

They say the best way to get over a trauma is to talk and talk and talk about it. It's the first step in the healing process.  Their lives are living traumas.  i am not old (at least i don't think so lol) yet i have experienced this myself.  As someone who has had to deal with substantial pain from fibryomyalgia it is difficult to not let your pain show through.  When people would ask me why i winced, or had trouble going up or down stairs, or couldn't get out of bed that day, or any other of the many limits i had to deal with surfaced i found a certain amount of  1. Disbelief, like i was exaggerating or trying to gain sympathy 2. Avoidance - people in pain remind others of possibilities they don't want to consider 3. Inconsideration/Apathy - Either telling me to be stronger and bite the bullet or just not having any impact at all, in fact sometimes my pain seemed annoying to them.  i learned a great deal about people as well as myself.   i learned to not have the need to give excuses and not feel guilty if my pain disappointed, inconvenienced, annoyed someone.  i also learned that if i had to live the rest of my life with a syndrom that was likely never to abate i din't have to make excuses for it either or even tell anyone when they would invariably ask me "what's wrong" - i learned to smile and say "nothing" and change the subject.  Thanks to new meds i am 80% pain free  


_____________________________

Religion is for people who are scared of hell, Spirituality is for people who have been there

(in reply to Lockit)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/30/2009 4:00:54 AM   
estah


Posts: 491
Joined: 5/2/2009
Status: offline
Lockit, thank you for saying it as it is. I am training to work with the elderly and I am looking forward to getting to know some of these people. Heck I know I have alot I can learn from them and I just hope I can make a small difference in their lives.

(in reply to velvetears)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/30/2009 9:16:33 PM   
Irishknight


Posts: 2016
Joined: 9/30/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy


Both the neighbor  age 75, and my mother- always need to tell me about the aches and pains.  I guess I get that way as well.

Why is it that people do this?



Because it would be silly to complain about the things that don't hurt.

_____________________________

What man is a man who does not make his world better?


Soldiers died for your right to be ungrateful.

(in reply to pahunkboy)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/31/2009 1:18:25 AM   
DesFIP


Posts: 25191
Joined: 11/25/2007
From: Apple County NY
Status: offline
Because chronic pain is very debilitating, it occupies your entire mind. You can't just ignore it and talk about other things.

_____________________________

Slave to laundry

Cynical and proud of it!


(in reply to pahunkboy)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/31/2009 6:22:27 AM   
hizgeorgiapeach


Posts: 1672
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower

lol, this "How are you" question amuses me at times...sometimes I tend to reply "Do you want the german or the british answer?" As in my view...they only want to hear the regular answer "I am fine" anyway...therefore that's my british answer...whereas if someone asks me for my german response...then don't feel offended of my very blunt answer on that one.



I respond to this particular question in much the same way lol.  I ask, "Do you want the socially polite answer (ie "doing fine") or do you want the Truth?" (ie how life is Really going, whether it's "fine" or not!)
 
As to the OP...... well.... start with what Des said.  A chronic illness is just that - Chronic and all consuming of your mental/emotional energies.  In some cases, yes, there's also that need for validation, or a need to feel that Someone is sympathetic/empathetic.  And for a few of them - just consider it them having sufficient respect for you to tell you the absolute truth rather than a socially polite lie - even when it's the socially polite lie that you'd Rather hear.

_____________________________

Rhi
Light travels faster than sound, which is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Essential Scentsations

(in reply to Phoenixpower)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/31/2009 8:44:46 AM   
servantforuse


Posts: 6363
Joined: 3/8/2006
Status: offline
I tend to stay clear of people who complain about their health problems. I have had six or seven broken bones, pins in my elbow and two knee surguries. They all slowed me down a little but I never once complained to anyone about them. I was always complimented by hospital staff for being a good patient. I think the complainers feel a need to be the center of attention and are looking for sympathy.

(in reply to hizgeorgiapeach)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/31/2009 3:46:52 PM   
Lockit


Posts: 11292
Joined: 5/7/2007
Status: offline
People who feel that people complain to get attention, who aren't taking the time to see for sure whether it is attention seeking or what might cause this need... are taking an easy way out to excuse their own lack of compassion, concern and desire for the person to be understood and taken care of. They often use it to get out of doing what a decent person would do by justifying their absense.

And that is rude, selfish and simplifying another human being... which in my opinion is worse than an attention seeking, sympothy needy person.

Comparing one ailment to another is another form of seeing only from your own perspective and isn't fair to those you are judging without realizing why there may be differences. Another self focused thing in my opinion. It's ugly.

_____________________________

No matter how old a woman gets, some men will think she was born yesterday! ROFL... I love this place!


(in reply to servantforuse)
Profile   Post #: 28
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/31/2009 3:54:09 PM   
pyroaquatic


Posts: 1535
Joined: 12/4/2006
From: Pyroaquatica
Status: offline
Simple: They want empathy and sympathy.

and other Mpathies.

Depression, yes. But I get over it. I sing myself out of it.
Or make stuff.

EXPRESSION IS A WONDERFUL THING!


_____________________________

You are what your deep, driving desire is.
As your desire is, so is your will.
As your will is, so is your deed.
As your deed is, so is your destiny.
-Brihadaranyaka Upanishad IV.4.5

(in reply to pahunkboy)
Profile   Post #: 29
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/31/2009 4:04:06 PM   
Lockit


Posts: 11292
Joined: 5/7/2007
Status: offline
Okay... at what point is it okay to complain? When you have a hang nail... or a school or work assignment due or have had no sleep or break a bone or when your body feels like a mac truck ran you over 365 days in a row and the only person that has spoken to you was driving the mac truck and yelled... outta my way as he ran you over? At what point is it understandable for someone to complain or actually, just share their pain with you becasue it overwhelms them and they have no one to care enough to listen?

_____________________________

No matter how old a woman gets, some men will think she was born yesterday! ROFL... I love this place!


(in reply to pyroaquatic)
Profile   Post #: 30
RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? - 8/31/2009 4:26:57 PM   
playfulotter


Posts: 2195
Joined: 6/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: stella41b

All I can say is consider yourself lucky that you're not here in the UK where I've encountered a few people prepared to give you regular updates about their bowel movements.

'How are you?'
'Well I haven't been for three days now' or 'I'm regular again.' And in places in Central Europe they've even got toilets with shelves so you can view your own creations before you flush. Ewww!!!

I'd also avoid countries in Central Europe like Poland where it's expected to respond to a 'How are you?' with a brief report of your health, ailments and financial problems. When I was living there it took me almost four years to work that one out. Prior I'd respond with the standard Western or American 'fine', 'I'm doing good' but I realized people responded much better when I did the same and told them about some ailment. It doesn't matter if you're as fit as a fiddle - make one up!

I don't mind people telling me about their ailments and problems, I mean as we get older we start getting them and many doctors nowadays simply don't have the time to sit and listen to their patients properly as they're so overworked. Indeed, at my local surgery sometimes it's like a race when you walk in to see the doctor - your objective is to get to the chair and sit down before the doctor manages to get hold of the prescription pad and a pen.

This is one of things about Americans which amuses me so much - together with their obsession with the weather, tendency to go 'crisis-shopping', general fear of making commitments (I'm guessing but I'm almost certain American society is based on the casual acquaintance) and the way they use English is their instinctive loathing of 'whining' and 'drama'. You can ask 'How are you?' to someone who's visibly suffering, blocked nose, red eyes, coughing, spluttering, wheezing, but if they're an American don't be surprised if they tell you 'I'm doing okay' or 'I'm doing good.'

I'm exaggerating here somewhat and not being entirely serious but it's something which I admit fascinates me. But after years spent working with (and sometimes living with) expat Americans I don't believe Americans avoid talking about problems or things that bother them any more than anyone else I mean, after all, if you can't complain and share your troubles with friends who else can you turn to?


Ha ha Stella, Your posting reminds me of a show I have watched  BBC America called "You are what you eat"..This perky blonde woman gets people to diet who have bad diets and are overweight most of the time and she actually asks them to give her a "poo" sample....for some reason I just don't think they would have that part of the show with a show produced  here in the U.S. but she does get them to drop some weight but some of the stuff she has them eating is pretty yucky! I never knew English people ate so much Indian food before I saw that show...I knew it was popular but didn't know how much!

< Message edited by playfulotter -- 8/31/2009 4:28:45 PM >

(in reply to stella41b)
Profile   Post #: 31
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2]
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Why do folks complain aout their ailments? Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.156