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when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 1:06:05 PM

ownedgirlie

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i often hear sentiment expressed from a submissive or slave who has become ill... Not with the flu, but a medical condition - cancer, diabetes, MS, etc. The sentiment i hear is that she feels she should ask for release because she does not want to burden her Master. i was speaking with a friend about this today and told her i think we as slaves want to give the very best of ourselves to our Masters, and when we feel incapacitated somehow, or if the way we are able to serve changes and becomes "limited," we feel we can not deliver and therefore can not please them. So, in our limited view (i say limited because often it is Master who sees the bigger picture while i see more narrowly), we think that removing ourselves from them is somehow better.

At the same token, i always hear the Masters' side is, "Why would I want to release you simply because you are ill?"

i think as submissives and slaves, we forget that what often brings a Master real pleasure is our mindset; our submissive heart.

Thoughts?

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 1:22:14 PM

DragonNphoenix

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I understand that feeling. My Dragon got me already ill... I have diabetes and am bi-polar. He knew that when we first started the relatioship. He would never release me just because of my illnesses. He says that they are part of what makes me me and makes me special.

But... Hey... I am lucky to have my Dragon. I know alot out there that dont have such caring and understanding Masters.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 1:31:21 PM

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I lock a collar about your neck and I accept responsibility for you untill you are released. You come down with an illness, then that illness is attacking my property. I do not sit by and allow anything to attack what is mine, nor to I surrender my property or run away from my responsibilities or duties (You'll notice I'm deliberately not refering to the love I will have for you if you are in my collar? That just adds fuel to the fire of caring for you). Worst case senario and you are terminal.. You breath your last breath knowing that you are loved and feeling my tears on your face..

“You gotta play the game. It’s all in the game and how you play it!”

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 1:34:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I lock a collar about your neck and I accept responsibility for you untill you are released. You come down with an illness, then that illness is attacking my property. I do not sit by and allow anything to attack what is mine, nor to I surrender my property or run away from my responsibilities or duties (You'll notice I'm deliberately not refering to the love I will have for you if you are in my collar? That just adds fuel to the fire of caring for you). Worst case senario and you are terminal.. You breath your last breath knowing that you are loved and feeling my tears on your face..

“You gotta play the game. It’s all in the game and how you play it!”

Damn IronBear, Sir... that was truly one of the most inspiring things i've read in a long while. It is truly nice to know that there are Those like Yourself in this life, Sir. It gives one hope.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 1:44:36 PM

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The only reason I will put a collar around her neck is if I care and if I care then I care wether she is well or ill. If that was the only reason for her asking for release I would flatly refuse. That would be the case even if my own health was perfect and it isn't! That probably makes me feel a little stronger about the issue than many.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 1:46:46 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I lock a collar about your neck and I accept responsibility for you untill you are released. You come down with an illness, then that illness is attacking my property. I do not sit by and allow anything to attack what is mine, nor to I surrender my property or run away from my responsibilities or duties (You'll notice I'm deliberately not refering to the love I will have for you if you are in my collar? That just adds fuel to the fire of caring for you). Worst case senario and you are terminal.. You breath your last breath knowing that you are loved and feeling my tears on your face..

“You gotta play the game. It’s all in the game and how you play it!”

What an amazingly beautiful post.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 1:55:34 PM

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3 things girly,my comment below;

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

i often hear sentiment expressed from a submissive or slave who has become ill... Not with the flu, but a medical condition - cancer, diabetes, MS, etc. The sentiment i hear is that she feels she should ask for release because she does not want to burden her Master. i was speaking with a friend about this today and told her i think we as slaves want to give the very best of ourselves to our Masters, and when we feel incapacitated somehow, or if the way we are able to serve changes and becomes "limited," we feel we can not deliver and therefore can not please them. So, in our limited view (i say limited because often it is Master who sees the bigger picture while i see more narrowly), we think that removing ourselves from them is somehow better.

At the same token, i always hear the Masters' side is, "Why would I want to release you simply because you are ill?"

i think as submissives and slaves, we forget that what often brings a Master real pleasure is our mindset; our submissive heart.

Thoughts?

1. typical,of one who wants to escape, or typical of an m. who wants no competition.
2. no reason,to say a real-m is limited ;a door knob's there till it rots.
3 .i agree it's important and ,tantamount, about the submissive born heart ,but, a typical top-says such things,esp. ones ,that like ,to MAKE others their slave like the "haughty females" they find a chanllenge...,if a top picked me i wasnt into;finding me a haughty challenge, with, that attitude;DEAD is what he'd be....

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 1:58:07 PM

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We definately fortunately that we have people like RavenMuse and Iron Bear on our site -- thanks y'all (and number of others on here). The subs/slaves in Y'alls lives are truly fortunate. (and that's gender "neutral" on purpose, because we also have some amazing Domme's on here who feel the same about their subs/slaves and switches to their partners. Your posts bring smiles, education, learning and tears of the very best sort.

best regards
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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 2:02:07 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: krikket

(and that's gender "neutral" on purpose, because we also have some amazing Domme's on here who feel the same about their subs/slaves and switches to their partners. Your posts bring smiles, education, learning and tears of the very best sort.

best regards
jimini

Thank you for pointing this out. i typically say Master and "she" for slave, only because that is what i am - a female slave serving a male Master. But when writing posts my intentions are always all-inclusive and i in no way mean to leave anyone out. Maybe it's just "lazy typing", where i sometimes tire of writing out Dom/Domme, Master/Mistress/ he/she. i will be more aware, as i would not want to discount anyone.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 2:20:18 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I lock a collar about your neck and I accept responsibility for you untill you are released. You come down with an illness, then that illness is attacking my property. I do not sit by and allow anything to attack what is mine, nor to I surrender my property or run away from my responsibilities or duties (You'll notice I'm deliberately not refering to the love I will have for you if you are in my collar? That just adds fuel to the fire of caring for you). Worst case senario and you are terminal.. You breath your last breath knowing that you are loved and feeling my tears on your face..

“You gotta play the game. It’s all in the game and how you play it!”

Dear IronBear, I can say nothing better than what you have said --for it is My commitment as well. To release one because of that says I am not a Domme, I am a coward and it was all a sham---I collar, I love, I love to the death, I move mountains, I walk through the fires of hell--but I never let go.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 3:04:01 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

i often hear sentiment expressed from a submissive or slave who has become ill... Not with the flu, but a medical condition - cancer, diabetes, MS, etc. The sentiment i hear is that she feels she should ask for release because she does not want to burden her Master. i was speaking with a friend about this today and told her i think we as slaves want to give the very best of ourselves to our Masters, and when we feel incapacitated somehow, or if the way we are able to serve changes and becomes "limited," we feel we can not deliver and therefore can not please them. So, in our limited view (i say limited because often it is Master who sees the bigger picture while i see more narrowly), we think that removing ourselves from them is somehow better.

At the same token, i always hear the Masters' side is, "Why would I want to release you simply because you are ill?"

i think as submissives and slaves, we forget that what often brings a Master real pleasure is our mindset; our submissive heart.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are of sadness and a bit of pity for ANYONE who thinks so little of themselves that they feel their worth is lowered if they are unlucky enough to be stricken with a serious illness.

IronBear, RavenMuse and Mistress Hathor have it right and I admire them for it.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 3:12:55 PM

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The other side of the coin, when it is the Dom who is ill - Master has said several times that He would not blame me if I decided to leave. I knew of His health problems before we got together. It didn't faze me then and it doesn't faze me now, even though things have gotten worse during the two years we have been together.

ownedgirlie:

quote:

At the same token, i always hear the Masters' side is, "Why would I want to release you simply because you are ill?"

I say, "Why would I want to leave you simply because you are ill?"

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 3:13:23 PM

slavejali

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Its nice to hear the responses from the Masters/Mistresses in here in regards to caring for their slaves.

I know a submissive who got hit by a car and went into a coma, while she was in hospital her Master split with her...that just smells of "why was she ever with him in the first place?" (This was a long term relationship btw)

Getting back to the topic:

In a permanent comitted relationship, if the submissive got ill, she should have enough faith in the relationship that her illness can be worked around.

Perhaps if the relationship was part time or less committed, splitting up if the sub/slave cant serve as he/she could before might be the obvious conclusion, but even then, its up to the Master/Mistress to decide not the sub/slave.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 3:27:05 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I lock a collar about your neck and I accept responsibility for you untill you are released. You come down with an illness, then that illness is attacking my property. I do not sit by and allow anything to attack what is mine, nor to I surrender my property or run away from my responsibilities or duties (You'll notice I'm deliberately not refering to the love I will have for you if you are in my collar? That just adds fuel to the fire of caring for you). Worst case senario and you are terminal.. You breath your last breath knowing that you are loved and feeling my tears on your face..

“You gotta play the game. It’s all in the game and how you play it!”

Beautifully & articulately put IronBear ...My sentiments exactly.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 3:46:25 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cellogrrlMK

My thoughts are of sadness and a bit of pity for ANYONE who thinks so little of themselves that they feel their worth is lowered if they are unlucky enough to be stricken with a serious illness.

IronBear, RavenMuse and Mistress Hathor have it right and I admire them for it.

cello

Hmm well i don't think they came from a place of thinking little of themselves. It just seemed to be an initial reaction from several i know in such a circumstance, of feeling badly that they could not provide what they once did. i feel badly enough when i am tired and Master wants me to rest rather than take care of things for him. Last time he had to yell at me to stay in bed and then i just hung out there whimpering so he had to tell me to be quiet!! i can only imagine how i would feel if he ended up doting on me, rather than the other way around which is what i am used to.

These girls surely do not want pity, no doubt.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 3:47:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I lock a collar about your neck and I accept responsibility for you untill you are released. You come down with an illness, then that illness is attacking my property. I do not sit by and allow anything to attack what is mine, nor to I surrender my property or run away from my responsibilities or duties (You'll notice I'm deliberately not refering to the love I will have for you if you are in my collar? That just adds fuel to the fire of caring for you). Worst case senario and you are terminal.. You breath your last breath knowing that you are loved and feeling my tears on your face..

“You gotta play the game. It’s all in the game and how you play it!”

Well said Sir! But no less than I would expect of you, and your words stand for me and mine.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 3:47:39 PM

ownedgirlie

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rayne58

The other side of the coin, when it is the Dom who is ill - Master has said several times that He would not blame me if I decided to leave. I knew of His health problems before we got together. It didn't faze me then and it doesn't faze me now, even though things have gotten worse during the two years we have been together.

ownedgirlie:
quote:

At the same token, i always hear the Masters' side is, "Why would I want to release you simply because you are ill?"

I say, "Why would I want to leave you simply because you are ill?"

Exactly, Rayne. Master is not in great health and may ultimately be consumed by it. i would not dream of leaving; rather i would care for him lovingly.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 3:49:37 PM

slavejali

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So, true whate everyone is saying, when you love someone, illness and injury just doesnt make a difference..you deal with each challenge as it comes up..together...

If love isnt involved, there is a whole nother dynamic going to take place.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 4:57:25 PM

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I figure when you enter into a relationship, regardless of the roles, if its for more than just fun and play then its for the good and bad, the well and ill, parts of life.

On the other hand when I'm feeling sick myself I am more inclined to tell my husband and not my slave. Some weird worry I guess I have about seeming weak. Luckily that has eased up a bit over the years and Fox's steady service and love has resulted in him seeing me sick and helping to take care of me.

I want service and submission when I want and because I just want it. Needing help still rubs me the wrong way. Being sick, well, depending on how sick you are, that can be needing help indeed.

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RE: when a slave becomes ill - 2/25/2006 5:42:28 PM

IronBear

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rayne58

The other side of the coin, when it is the Dom who is ill - Master has said several times that He would not blame me if I decided to leave. I knew of His health problems before we got together. It didn't faze me then and it doesn't faze me now, even though things have gotten worse during the two years we have been together.

ownedgirlie:
quote:

At the same token, i always hear the Masters' side is, "Why would I want to release you simply because you are ill?"

I say, "Why would I want to leave you simply because you are ill?"

We've talked before Rayne and I know your Master if a lucky man to have you, and I'm thinking you are lucky to have him too lass.. Rayne lass, you rock!

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