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ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Is Atheism a religion? (9/8/2009 4:19:45 PM)
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
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So you believe that an "unbelief" in a divine being stands absolutely alone in a person? It has no effect on any other beliefs that they may have, nor in how they view the world, and how it operates?
So here we go again with the childish semantic contortions. Who could have ever seen this coming?
In answer to your question - can you show me where I said that? .
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... and second, because it erroneously describes a single belief as a belief system.
Like I said, more semantic contortions. This is the part where you start arguing about what the meaning of "is" is. It's what you always fall back on; we can set our watches by it. Instead of staking out a position and defending it, you simply lay back in the weeds, commit yourself no more than necessary, and try to advance your position by picking apart perceived vulnerabilities in the other person's argument.
Although I will say, you usually manage to be a little more smooth about it. This time you're stretching yourself even thinner than usual. Are you trying to claim that because a single belief has an effect on the way someone views the world, it is by definition a belief system? Is that the argument you're trying to make - or rather, is that the argument you would be making if you had the guts to actually stand up and make an argument? Yes or no, is that what you're saying? If so, man up and assert it. And then articulate an argument defending your position. Suppose you can do that?
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First of all, because it presumes (illogically) that an absence of belief in god must necessarily have a basis in scientific belief;
If atheism isn't based on either logic or science ... what is the basis of the disbelief in a divine?
First of all, don't ask me, ask an atheist. It's not up to me to explain to you the positions of the people you're discussing. If you want to make an argument on what the basis is for atheism, roll up your sleeves and start typing one. Thus far, all you've been able to muster is, "well, what else could it be?", and putting the onus on everyone else to prove you wrong. That's your standard MO, and while that may be sufficient to prove your point to yourself, it's a pretty weak argument in the eyes of most of the rest of us. Do your own homework and make an actual argument. For a change.
Second, where did i ever say that logic was not a basis for atheism? Did you really think I wasn't going to notice you making yet another one of your trademark attempts to subtly shift the terms of the debate when you realize you've got nothing? You're the one who's constantly berating people to respond to what you say and only to what you say, and to not put words in your mouth. Perhaps if you made some apparent effort to hold yourself to the same standards to which you're always trying to hold others, more people would find it worth their time to engage you.
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