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pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 12:48:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig Well to be honest, I never intended to get a flu vaccine. Swine flu just doesn't scare me all that much. The numbers that have contracted it are infinitesimally small when viewed as a percentage of the population as a whole, and the number who died from it even smaller. I have more chance of being hit by a car crossing the street than I do of catching swine flu let alone dying from it. The swine flu of 2009 is not the Spanish flu of 1918, they are different things by several orders of magnitude. The numbers infected are less than the normal infection rate of flu during winter in Canada, and the number of fatalities below that of the regular flu season....its a tempest in a teapot as far as I am concerned. Stay your ground on this. I am pretty familiar with this scam.... I regret having as many shots as I have already had.

DomKen -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 12:59:49 PM)
Polio vaccine contains the polio virus. The measles vaccine contains the measles virus. All vaccines contain at least part of the virus it is intended to defeat. Vaccinations have eliminated many devastating diseases. The more lies told about vaccines the closer we get to the next polio pandemic. The idea behind the flu vaccine is to save lives during the winter flu season. Mercury in vaccines is in a preservative that has been proven in many studies to be completely harmless. Scayline doesn't seem to actually be anything. I've never heard of it and various searches turned up nothing.

Brain -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 1:03:44 PM)
I think chiropractors are not doctors and much of what he is saying is not scientific so I would not pay too much attention to it. Canada has wackos just like any other country and this guy is one of them. He tries to pretend he is a doctor and is being scientific and maintaining the rigorous standards of the scientific community and I suppose people lacking higher education might fall for it unfortunately but this guy is a joke except for the damage he can cause if people believe his crap. quote: ORIGINAL: gift4mistress http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROqQ9dy-1tY&feature=sub If this stuff is true: holy sh*t.

pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 1:18:53 PM)
http://www.rense.com/general87/swi.htm swine flu is a SCAM. Think of the twisted irony of it. Pigs are not kosher- nor do they fly. The Illuminati always give hints as to what they are doing.

Arpig -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 1:28:22 PM)
Ummm, hunky,t hat's all very interesting stuff, but I still have one question....just why exactly are they wanting to depopulate the planet again...I mean wouldn't that make it a sort of pointless place to rule over?

DomKen -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 2:24:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy http://www.rense.com/general87/swi.htm swine flu is a SCAM. Think of the twisted irony of it. Pigs are not kosher- nor do they fly. The Illuminati always give hints as to what they are doing. And if a globe spanning conspiracy was able to fake lab results in disease research labs all over the world and keep all the involved scientists and doctors quiet they wouldn't have any qualms about shooting people who had penetrated the conspiracy and started telling people about it. So until all these various crackpots pitching fits over the flu vaccine start dropping dead there is no globe spanning conspiracy out to depopulate the planet.

pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 3:03:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig Ummm, hunky,t hat's all very interesting stuff, but I still have one question....just why exactly are they wanting to depopulate the planet again...I mean wouldn't that make it a sort of pointless place to rule over? There very much IS a plan for eugenics. The ideal population of the planet is 500,000,000. That means close to 6 billion of us are possible to be deleted. Understand that Reagan deregulated the FDA in around 1980. Since then- much of the science is shoddy at best. Consider how in the past 10+ years- when the government goofs- that no one is punished - and yet it enables even MORE funding for the government.

pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 3:10:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy http://www.rense.com/general87/swi.htm swine flu is a SCAM. Think of the twisted irony of it. Pigs are not kosher- nor do they fly. The Illuminati always give hints as to what they are doing. And if a globe spanning conspiracy was able to fake lab results in disease research labs all over the world and keep all the involved scientists and doctors quiet they wouldn't have any qualms about shooting people who had penetrated the conspiracy and started telling people about it. So until all these various crackpots pitching fits over the flu vaccine start dropping dead there is no globe spanning conspiracy out to depopulate the planet. Take the vaccine. But don't force it on ME or my kin. You really ought to subscribe to The International Forecaster. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280393585614&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT I have no problem with others wanting the vaccine. I DO have a HUGE problem with such being forced unto those who do not want it. The world is not "fair". Greed and scandal have been around since the beginning of time. I have a right to control my own body. The government has no business controlling my body. 80% of the immune system happens via your mouth-nose and eyes. A vaccine by-passes that. You can not compare 2009 with before 1980. Things are way more corrupt today.

Arpig -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 3:56:04 PM)
quote: There very much IS a plan for eugenics. The ideal population of the planet is 500,000,000. That means close to 6 billion of us are possible to be deleted. And just who has this plan? The WHO? The UN? oh wait, yes that's right,its the Illuminati...the all powerful group that controls the world...the group that is so powerfulit can't shut you up...that the one? And just who determined this "ideal population" and on what basis was the determination made? Oh yeah, and why would these shadowy controllers of the world give out hints as to their evil plan to massacre the vast majority of the world's population? Surely if they have been running the world as completely as you claim for all these years they would be smarter than the average b-movie bad guy...wouldn't they try to keep their secret plans secret, you know, by maybe not giving out hints and maybe silencing those who expose their nefarious plans. You ever wonder why Alex Jones, et al are still on the air? I'll tell you why, because the secret cabals they expose are fictitious...there is no New World Order working to control the world...the British monarchy can't even maintain a marriage let alone a centuries long conspiracy of world domination. This stuff is ludicrous, and would be funny as hell if it weren't for the fact that so many people buy it. Sorry PA, but I suggest you turn off the radio and go for a long walk...the fresh air will do you good.

DDraigeuraid -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 4:12:13 PM)
I probably won't be taking the vaccine, because I have a healthy immune system, and if I do get the H1N1, then recover, my immune system will be stronger yet. AND, wasn't it just a couple years ago the big scare was the avian flu virus that turned out to be nothing much at all? I think part of the problem is the instant news coverage from across the globe, and the purpose of TV is to keep us stupid and scared. Dragon

gift4mistress -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 6:00:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brain I think chiropractors are not doctors and much of what he is saying is not scientific so I would not pay too much attention to it. Canada has wackos just like any other country and this guy is one of them. He tries to pretend he is a doctor and is being scientific and maintaining the rigorous standards of the scientific community and I suppose people lacking higher education might fall for it unfortunately but this guy is a joke except for the damage he can cause if people believe his crap. quote: ORIGINAL: gift4mistress http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROqQ9dy-1tY&feature=sub If this stuff is true: holy sh*t. Perhaps if you consider his source; maybe, you will find some truth to what he is saying? I have it as my 2nd or 3 post on the first page. I have been doing some research on some of what this man has been saying, and I'm finding it to be somewhat true. For instance, many of the richest people since the 1900s in America have approved of and invested in eugenics. To name a few, you have the Kellogg family, Gate family, the Roben Barrens, and many others who have donated to the pro-eugenics movements. http://www.eugenics-watch.com/roots/chap12.html Practically, through out this whole time line it shows that the Rockefeller foundation has donated lots of sums of money to eugenic research. http://www.google.com/search?q=rockefeller+foundation+eugenics&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS338&sa=X&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=gaelSr6sEYGkswOn54mNDw&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11 None the less, I don't think that there is a NWO out to trying take over the world. All though, I don't think that the idea of an NWO is far-fetched. For instance, Hitler and Stalin are the most recent individuals to attempt world domination. In fact, you can trace the idea of world domination all the way to ancient times (Alexander the great and Genghis Khan). Though Hitler and Stalin are dead, you can't assume that the need/desire/want of world domination is dead as well. I am sure that there are those in power, even in the U.S, that wouldn't mind taking over the world. Anyways, the concept of the pharmaceutical companies wanting to give you something that would make them billions of dollars regardless if it helped you or not seems kinda logical to me. Try to look at the tobacco industry for example, they lied for decades on how damaging their product are to people. They obviously did that so they could continue to score huge profits. In short, money is an appealing thing to have in your bank account: is it not?

pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 6:17:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: There very much IS a plan for eugenics. The ideal population of the planet is 500,000,000. That means close to 6 billion of us are possible to be deleted. And just who has this plan? The WHO? The UN? oh wait, yes that's right,its the Illuminati...the all powerful group that controls the world...the group that is so powerfulit can't shut you up...that the one? And just who determined this "ideal population" and on what basis was the determination made? Oh yeah, and why would these shadowy controllers of the world give out hints as to their evil plan to massacre the vast majority of the world's population? Surely if they have been running the world as completely as you claim for all these years they would be smarter than the average b-movie bad guy...wouldn't they try to keep their secret plans secret, you know, by maybe not giving out hints and maybe silencing those who expose their nefarious plans. You ever wonder why Alex Jones, et al are still on the air? I'll tell you why, because the secret cabals they expose are fictitious...there is no New World Order working to control the world...the British monarchy can't even maintain a marriage let alone a centuries long conspiracy of world domination. This stuff is ludicrous, and would be funny as hell if it weren't for the fact that so many people buy it. Sorry PA, but I suggest you turn off the radio and go for a long walk...the fresh air will do you good. Who do you think calls the shots? You forgot the Bilderburg group. The group of 200. The Council on foreign relations. How about the CIA? MI5, and the others. Did you know Rothschild is worth 500 trillion $? Who do you think influences Hollywood? Hint CIA. I will not turn off my radio. I buy silver and what I can in gold and we shall see. He who has the gold makes the rules.

Arpig -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 10:14:10 PM)
OK hunky, if all these people (apparently there is a whole shitload of them) really are out to control the world and to depopulate the planet, then why have they not shut you up? How is it that they just let you go on exposing their evil schemes? Wouldn't a group so immoral as to attempt to deliberately infect the majority of the inhabitants of the planet with a lethal disease be more than capable of arranging an accident for you...or for Alex Jones for that matter? What are they afraid of?

luckydawg -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/7/2009 10:44:44 PM)
Arpig, it's much easier to expalin on video than in words but I will try. They could kill Alex Jones, but then you would know. And they would know you know, and you would know that. And then they would know that as well that you know that they know that you know. Right? It makes much more sense on the video with the scary lighting and music.

pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/8/2009 11:01:41 AM)
Actually when a person DOES become too followed they shut them up. Consider that MANY cant talk over fear for their jobs or family being harassed. As to Eugenics, there is alot of money made off of wars. The NWO has slaughtered alot of mostly non-white people. Even as we speak- how many wars are we currently in. Over 1 million Iraqis. Human life does not matter. Money and power does. No matter how you slice it- do your own research. Ask probing questions. Question everything. Maybe the intent is not purely evil- but we have sloppy science of late and greed is rampant. When the peon stops asking questions- that is a sad day. We must check and balance. There are people motivated soley by greed and they will gain at the loss of others. So CYA. CYA. CYA. CYA. If they killed Alex Jones he would be a marter. He has put out something like 14 films- films that are viral and not copywrited. His death would shine more attention on his life work. Bob Chapman even left the country as his life was in jeopardy. These people- are worse then the mafia. The play for real and they play for keeps.

Arpig -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/8/2009 12:23:05 PM)
quote: Actually when a person DOES become too followed they shut them up. Name one quote: Consider that MANY cant talk over fear for their jobs or family being harassed. Again,name one..and is harassment or lose of a job the best that this NWO can do, I mean after all they control all the governments of the world. quote: As to Eugenics, there is alot of money made off of wars. War is not eugenics...and as a method of depopulation it is a lousy method,surely these people who control all the scientific research being done couldcome upwith something more efficient and cheaper, especially since profit is their aim. quote: No matter how you slice it- do your own research. Ask probing questions. Question everything. That is exactly what I am doing,I am questioning your claims and those of Alex Jones and his ilk...and so far have seen no actual evidence of these shadowy groups that control everything, yet have not the power to do anything to stop those who expose them over the public airwaves. quote: If they killed Alex Jones he would be a marter. He has put out something like 14 films- films that are viral and not copywrited. His death would shine more attention on his life work. So if he has a heart attack it would bring attention to his work? More likely it would warrant a mention around page 6 and then be forgotten as would his work. Do you really think he would be more dangerous dead than alive if the conspiracies he claims to expose were real? If they really are planning to murder several billion people as you claim, then surely they would shut up those who are exposing it....but they are afraid tomake him a martyr? I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Alex Jones doesn't have much of a following and hardly anybody would even notice his passing. quote: Bob Chapman even left the country as his life was in jeopardy. I see, sothe NWO controls the world, but you can escape their clutchs by leaving the country....even the mafia (who these guys are supposedly worse than) can and do follow people outside the country to exact their revenge. And how does this Chapman fellow continue to put up his web page and remain in hiding,after all the NWO et.al. control all the means of communication, so they could track him down pretty quickly and take care of him, but they don't.... why?

awmslave -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/8/2009 1:28:24 PM)
Some of his claims make sense like for example possible side effects that have not been taken into consideration by the labs making the vaccines. Bill Gates as eugenics supporter was a bad joke. I personally know people who work on Bill Gates funded projects finding cure for malaria, African food source improvement projects, projects directed to improving productivity of rice and other major food crops etc....

pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/8/2009 2:17:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: Actually when a person DOES become too followed they shut them up. Name one quote: Consider that MANY cant talk over fear for their jobs or family being harassed. Again,name one..and is harassment or lose of a job the best that this NWO can do, I mean after all they control all the governments of the world. quote: As to Eugenics, there is alot of money made off of wars. War is not eugenics...and as a method of depopulation it is a lousy method,surely these people who control all the scientific research being done couldcome upwith something more efficient and cheaper, especially since profit is their aim. quote: No matter how you slice it- do your own research. Ask probing questions. Question everything. That is exactly what I am doing,I am questioning your claims and those of Alex Jones and his ilk...and so far have seen no actual evidence of these shadowy groups that control everything, yet have not the power to do anything to stop those who expose them over the public airwaves. quote: If they killed Alex Jones he would be a marter. He has put out something like 14 films- films that are viral and not copywrited. His death would shine more attention on his life work. So if he has a heart attack it would bring attention to his work? More likely it would warrant a mention around page 6 and then be forgotten as would his work. Do you really think he would be more dangerous dead than alive if the conspiracies he claims to expose were real? If they really are planning to murder several billion people as you claim, then surely they would shut up those who are exposing it....but they are afraid tomake him a martyr? I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Alex Jones doesn't have much of a following and hardly anybody would even notice his passing. quote: Bob Chapman even left the country as his life was in jeopardy. I see, sothe NWO controls the world, but you can escape their clutchs by leaving the country....even the mafia (who these guys are supposedly worse than) can and do follow people outside the country to exact their revenge. And how does this Chapman fellow continue to put up his web page and remain in hiding,after all the NWO et.al. control all the means of communication, so they could track him down pretty quickly and take care of him, but they don't.... why? Forget it. Enjoy being chipped. Enjoy Frankenstein foods. Enjoy being a slave to the International financiers. Enjoy having the middle class wiped out. Enjoy centralized power- and the NWO. Enjoy it all. It is not too hard to learn the truth. ...with people of your attitude- who cares? Who cares that the nations retirement has been looted. The wealth of many has been swindled. Remember that when your income is cut. The time it would take to clue you in- I could score some deals on precious metals. In the meantime look up Bill Cooper.

DomKen -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/8/2009 3:07:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy The time it would take to clue you in- I could score some deals on precious metals. You're positing a global conspiracy intent on taking over the world but think buying precious metals is somehow helpful? Buying precious metalsis a hedge against societal collapse not against tyrrany. Tyrants could simply make exchanging or possessing precious metals illegal and then you'd be SOL. If you're worried about a global plague spread by the flu vaccine you should be stockpiling food and ammo in a remote off the grid cabin in the wilderness somewhere. If you're going to pitch conspiracy theories at least try to be logically consistent.

pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/8/2009 3:19:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy The time it would take to clue you in- I could score some deals on precious metals. You're positing a global conspiracy intent on taking over the world but think buying precious metals is somehow helpful? Buying precious metalsis a hedge against societal collapse not against tyrrany. Tyrants could simply make exchanging or possessing precious metals illegal and then you'd be SOL. If you're worried about a global plague spread by the flu vaccine you should be stockpiling food and ammo in a remote off the grid cabin in the wilderness somewhere. If you're going to pitch conspiracy theories at least try to be logically consistent. I did stockpile food. Guess what? It all got buggy. It doesn't work. The USA is the only country where people don't beleive in conspiracies. Back in the days of Jesus- he threw the money changers out of the temple. Thru out history fiat money does not work. Did you know it is illegal for Mexico to back its currency by gold/silver? The reason why gold and silver is wealth is it is been so for nearly 6000 years. They can not print more of it. Gosh- it is not like I have tons of it. I am barely lower middle class. Barely. Did you know 10% of the population is "unbanked"? Every 80 years or so- things collapse. The elite know this. Silver and gold IS money- even per our constitution. I wish I could move to the country. I live in town. I hate living on the busy street. 500 ounces of silver will be an average house paid in full. Isnt it ironic that a pile of bricks even has to have a mortgage on it? I am buying 1964 halfs- quarters, dimes, and silver dollars. What they call 90% junk silver. If you want to sell any at a good price- I will buy it.

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