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Arpig -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/8/2009 8:26:21 PM)

PA it isn't that I dismiss the idea of an NWO outright, it is the idea of this organization that is so powerful it controls the governments of the world...yet they can't stop you from exposing them on a public website....what gives? If I were running them I would simply have every server on the Internet monitor for certain keywords, and any message that contains those would be blocked,and the sending MAC address blocked. Then I would look up the home address from the ISP records (I have access to all this stuff remember...I run the world) and have a few boys drop by late one night and simply remove you....disappeared as they used to say in Chile.

That way no word of the NWO or its plans would ever leak out,and those in the know would just vanish. So how come if I can conceive of how to do this they can't...am I so much more proficient an evil overlord?   Hmmmm maybe its all those years as a DM finally paying off, eh?




pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/9/2009 11:09:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

PA it isn't that I dismiss the idea of an NWO outright, it is the idea of this organization that is so powerful it controls the governments of the world...yet they can't stop you from exposing them on a public website....what gives? If I were running them I would simply have every server on the Internet monitor for certain keywords, and any message that contains those would be blocked,and the sending MAC address blocked. Then I would look up the home address from the ISP records (I have access to all this stuff remember...I run the world) and have a few boys drop by late one night and simply remove you....disappeared as they used to say in Chile.

That way no word of the NWO or its plans would ever leak out,and those in the know would just vanish. So how come if I can conceive of how to do this they can't...am I so much more proficient an evil overlord?   Hmmmm maybe its all those years as a DM finally paying off, eh?




They are working on a controlled internet.

As we get further into the collapse more people will demand more government.

Think centralization vs de-centralization, which is better?

Centralized power is too top heavy.  One size does not fit all.

The wealthy make the rules.    Consider all the Wall Street bail outs.

As bush once said-  "all knowledge does not exist with in Washington DC'.

Web 2, will replace the current web.  Rockefeller said the Internet should not exist.

Think back to the 08 presidential debates.   Where was the beef?    We had plenty of debates.  But were the good questions allowed to be asked?

Power corrupts.   2009 it is worse then it has been in a very long time.   A new world order- that does not mean that the US (or Canada) will be able to continue its current lifestyle.   Not at all.




Arpig -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/9/2009 12:03:02 PM)

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They are working on a controlled internet.
Well if they are still working on it they are pretty dumb. Its inherent in the nature of the Internet that absolutely everything that travels over it is recorded in dozens of servers,and is right there for the searching...why do you suppose they are having trouble controlling it, after all they control all the governments, surely by now they have also taken control of all the ISPs (that's assuming they didn't control them to begin with). The routers and servers that make up the Internet can very simply be programmed to monitor all traffic for specific keywords and no amount of encryption is unbreakable (the encryption key is sent with each package...so it can be decrypted at the far end). Given deep enough encryption it may take some time to break, but given that these guys have the resources of all the world's governments and research facilities, it wouldn't take very long...maybe a day or two. So there is no reason why they could not control the Internet right now...yet you say they are still working on it...what is holding them up?

Face it PA, your theory has no logic to it...they are all powerful yet they cannot do what anybody with an MCSE and Cisco certification from your local community college could do with relative ease given the resources. And apparently these people who control all the world's military might along with its spy agencies (CIA, MI5,and whatever they call the KGB/GRU in Russia these days) are afraid to silence a relative nobody like Alex Jones, and they are unable get their hands on this Bob guy simply because he left the US? I thought they controlled all the governments,wasn't it you who said that MI5 was their tool...surely MI5 could track this guy down in Europe...especially since he maintains an online newsletter. It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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As we get further into the collapse more people will demand more government.
Probably so, but this assumes there is an imminent collapse, something for which there is little evidence.In fact all factors point toward the economy being on the mend, so the rabble demanding more government is unlikely to say the least.
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Think centralization vs de-centralization, which is better?

Centralized power is too top heavy.  One size does not fit all.
True one size does not fit all,and as to the centralization/de-centralization question, well that depends entirely on exactly what issue we are discussing. Some issues are better dealt with on a more centralized basis (healthcare for example), while others on a more decentralized basis (education for example). Now that all being said I don't understand what this whole bit has to do with anything, asking an irrelevant unanswerable question and following it up with an obvious truism, neither of which has anything to do with what we are discussing....makes no sense.

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The wealthy make the rules.    Consider all the Wall Street bail outs.
What relevance is this..the rich make the rules? Hell they have been doing so ever since the idea of personal wealth originated way back in prehistory.This is no revelation, it is simply the way life has worked since the dawn of civilization...nothing here either, no evidence of anything other than human nature.

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As bush once said-  "all knowledge does not exist with in Washington DC'.
OK, so Bush said something intelligent, but again I fail to see any connection to either the fact the statement was made or the content of the statement to anything. Of course all knowledge does not exist in DC, what does this prove? And if this is supposed to be some sort of expose, well wasn't Bush supposed to be their tool to begin with? Wasn't he one of them? If so then why make cryptic statements about them...well statements that could be construed to be about the NWO if one has no connection to reality, logic or a simple understanding of the English language.
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Web 2, will replace the current web.  Rockefeller said the Internet should not exist.
Who do you think created the web in the first place? It was the US military....look up ARPANet if you don't believe me. It was the creation of the establishment, not something made by freedom fighters. As to Rockefeller, I assume you mean this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY  Do you actually listen to what is actually said on these things that Jones puts up? There is nothing in there about the Internet never should have existed. What he does say is given that cyber-attack is the biggest vulnerability at the present time, perhaps it would have been better if it didn't exist...an idea which he immediately dismisses as foolish. And he is correct, if the Internet didn't exist, then the US would not be vulnerable to  cyber-attack. Obviously a foolish idea, since it does exist.

And Web2.0 is not some new technology, it is simply the accumulated changes in the way the existing technology is used...Facebook is an example of Web 2.0. Web 2.0 is not going to replace anything, it is just a term to describe the new interactive design of web pages and websites, that's all.

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Think back to the 08 presidential debates.   Where was the beef?    We had plenty of debates.  But were the good questions allowed to be asked?
Show me any campaign debate at which the "good questions" were allowed to be asked. Political debates are nothing more than a chance to score some cheap points on the opposition and haven't been anything else in a long time.

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Power corrupts.   2009 it is worse then it has been in a very long time.   A new world order- that does not mean that the US (or Canada) will be able to continue its current lifestyle.   Not at all.
Yes power does corrupt,but this is nothing new, and certainly not proof of an NWO. As to if things are worse now than they have been in a long time, well I agree, corruption is more prevalent (or at least exposed more often) than it was in the past. But like I said, this has nothing to do with a new world order,  in fact if you know your history you would be aware that there has been periods of far greater corruption in the past, and eventually the corruption (or at least its more obvious and visible aspects) were eventually cleaned up...as will happen with the present situation. And as to the US and Canadian lifestyles, I agree that it is bound to change, but that is just the way the market works, it isn't anything new, again if you know your history you would know that societies are not static and they change constantly, and the lifestyles of those living in that society change along with it. Hell the lifestyle in North America has changed beyond all recognition since 1909, and it will in all likelihood change beyond all recognition by 2109...that is the way things work.

PA you post a lot of pretty random stuff, but none of it seems in the slightest way related to any sort of New World Order, or even to the other things you post...they are just random snippets on irrelevancies and erroneous ideas not based in reality. If you really are serious about these things then at least try to present a semi-logical argument.









pahunkboy -> RE: What do you think of this? (9/9/2009 12:31:45 PM)

Air,   who do you think owns the gold?

We thru god out of our life and replaced him with Luciferian masters of the universe.

I back up what I say as nearly every penny I own is in silver.   Am I taking a big risk?

The proof will be in the pudding.  I have all the time in the world to wait.   I will be rewarded.

To some extent the NWO is needed as people do not follow the bible.  

Best you don't get too smug on the economy.    Especially if you are on any type of government funded program.   Canada will come out of the mess somewhat better then the USA.   But not this soon. This depression is going to last for YEARS!

Study  "counter party risk".

Somehow we strayed from the topic.  Prove to me the flu shot is needed and safe.   You cant.  Just a bunch of propaganda.  

So I will refuse the flu shot and some think I will then die from this.   So be it.   I am ready to meet my maker.

At the end of the day man is not god and never can be.  Only the blood of the living Christ can save us.

The world is filled with demons.  Jokers- wizards and tricksters. 

I have the right to control my body.  To that I say no to this swine flu shot. It is a beta test.

The great harvest is coming. Human blood to be spilled.   At some point man and machine will merge into a transhuman type of morph.    But you see- man can never BE god.   Only Jesus Christ is god.   Each day we get closer.   The luciferians gain power by the human sacrifice.  Nearly every law maker is part of it.   They do unspeakable acts and toe the line as if they don't they are destroyed by the crown...the black nobelity. 

You would have to be deprogrammed to understand it.   TV lulls people into a false reality.

1968 was the last year.  Every years since then the US has declined in real wealth per kilometer/output.

The illuminists do this.  They build a society up- then tear it down- shuffle the wealth into their pockets.

They are doing that right now as we speak.

Look up Lindsey Williams,  energy noncrises.

Anyhow- I back up my claim by neglecting the water bill to grab silver.  Will I be rich?   Maybe.  But it could be a matter of just eating.

"they" can take all my goods- they can destroy my body.   But "they" , evil, satan, lucifer- can never destroy teh living Christ.

I have to get back to work.   I cant deprogram the masses.   I will pray for you tho.

-R






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