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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:17:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

I view getting a tattoo along the same lines as a wedding (in the specific venue of permanence).
It is not something to cover up, or remove. I want this relationship to last forever. Or until we both drop dead.
Samurai would frame the skins of fallen opponents with tattoos on them. :D
Design something iconic/symbolic with specific meaning understood only by you and your owner.

heh i view it the same however my current mistress will be my 2nd wife lol.   so marriage while hopefully lasts forever sadly does not :P  hopeing this will be my last ;)
only understood by me and here is nice but not exactly what either of us want.  we want a certain level of public knowledge but not to obvious to the general population of the west.   Having me wonder if some one actuall knows what it says is part of the fun :)     I have several tattoos and on one arm I have Egyptian hieroglyphs though very few if any peopel can actually read those much much less likely then being able to read Japanese Kenji.
Originally she was going to do it in English but that would definiltly be easy to read and would need to be much more hiden.

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:23:09 PM   
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Chinese for pet is actually 2 words : 宠物(literally means spoiled object, pretty sweet if you ask me~~~)

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I strongly suggest getting the tattoo in Chinese or Japan, if you decided to get a Kenji Tattoo. They know the language, unlikely to make mistakes with meaning.

yes I like that :) the Japanese version is similar in meaning there are 2 I don' thave my dictionary here though.  but there is the basic pet like in a dog or something and the one we use which is pet like in "favorite one"  sort of like teachers pet.  Though I want pet she wants property lol we are still negotiating on the details of what it will actually be.   maybe will end up being something like "pet property"  but no rush still in the idea stage at this point.  and in the end it will have to be something we are both happy with.

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:24:43 PM   
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I have a Chinese tattoo goes bad story here~~~

There's this guy who wants to tattoo "terrorist" in Chinese on his shin (the reason to tattoo that is totally beyond me...) But he went to do it anyway. And the next day he came back, and showed it to me, and it's a single Chinese character "素", meaning simple, plain, white color, or basic element, it can also mean vegetable.

I told him Chinese for terrorist is actually 4 words (恐怖份子), it's a foreign concept, so we don't have single word for that, and we have to make up phrases. But he assured me that before he got it done, the tattoo artist had shown him online on some Chinese/English dictionary.

So this tough, big guy, looks really intimidating type... has the word "vegetable" tattooed on his shin, and the tattoo is actually about the size of my palm.

Be very careful~~~

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:26:17 PM   
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Silent, LOLOLOL  thanks for the laugh.  That beats the "pork" tat by far.

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:30:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SilentSpark

I have a Chinese tattoo goes bad story here~~~

There's this guy who wants to tattoo "terrorist" in Chinese on his shin (the reason to tattoo that is totally beyond me...) But he went to do it anyway. And the next day he came back, and show it to me, and it's a single Chinese character "素", meaning simple, plain, white color, or basic element, it can also mean vegetable.

I told him Chinese for terrorist is actually 4 words (恐怖份子), it's a foreign concept, so we don't have single word for that, and we have to make up phrases. But he assured be before he goes, that the tattoo artist had showed him online on some Chinese/English dictionary.

So this tough, big guy, looks really intimidating type... has the word "vegetable" tattooed on his shin, and the tattoo is actually about the size of my palm.

Be very careful~~~



and that would be why you don't piss your artist off.......


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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:48:04 PM   
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He has tattooed on His left arm (upper).  at the same time, this slave got tattooed on her lower back, when we decided to be in an M/s relationship together, 6 years ago.
 
(sorry Sunnyfey, neither of us is Asian...so, hate on if you must.)
 
We thought the symbols were nifty and looked great as a "set" representing our Master/slave relationship at the beginning.
 
Since then, we have discussed getting chains tattooed around this slave's ankles and wrists with a tag on one of the ankle chains that includes His signature...but discussion is as far as we've gotten with that.

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:51:03 PM   
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HATE!!! MASSIVE HATE!!! *throws hate at them*

Not really, I love you guys.


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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:53:16 PM   
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I remmeber one movie I saw was chinese movie and in it there was this big tough white guy as side character and he is showing the main char his new tattoo.
He said check out my tattoo it says dragon!   and the subtitle of the tattoo read "soup shop" or something lol.  and everyone just said ya that's great and didn't tell him what it meant.  lol though he died later so I guess he never had to find out what it really said :P

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:55:20 PM   
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Actually i like the idea of having matching tattoos hehe maybe she can get Owner or something along those lines since she isn't to keen on "Mistress" as it's main meaning in most asian cultures is less then wholesome :P 

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 1:57:50 PM   
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I have several tattoos, but none that 'mark' me with ownership.

I have a burn scar on my thigh, burned in with an iron, that DOES mark me with ownership. It does not carry his name though, instead, it was a design that we worked on together.

If you are going to get tattoos, your best bet is to make sure that you don't go with names. There is no guarantee on the future, and as someone already mentioned, what happens if down the road you are with someone else? They will not appreciate having another's name tattooed onto your body.

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 2:01:01 PM   
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because WIIWD is wholesome? :p

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 2:17:27 PM   
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no idea what WIIWD means lol but there are several asians i've met that really don't like the term mistress since in vanilla world there it usually means 2nd wife or girl on the side.  was even a show in China last year about a man with 7 mistresses or something.  it never aired though as one of the mistresses that was voted out ended up killing her self along with several other contestents :P    at any rate she prefers "owner" rather then mistress hehe.  some prefer teh later to each their own was mearly explaining the reasoning.   It definitly doesn't carry the title power of "Master" though espcially in Asia.   I have even seen some Dommes use the title Master though only on movies so it might be a translation issue as Mistress definitly doesn't translate as female master in most languages.

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 2:21:50 PM   
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WIIWD = What It Is We Do....aka BDSM




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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 2:28:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

WIIWD = What It Is We Do....aka BDSM


ah hehe yes I suppose it's not really wholesome per say but not as humiliating I suppose to her friends for them to know if she is an Owner of her partner rather then a Mistress which would require a full explaination of BDSM rather then a general overview as she is the one in charge.   

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 2:38:11 PM   
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He plans on tattooing and branding me with marks that represent him and our relationship.
I can't wait.
I have kanji on the back of my neck which means to be a joy, to be pleasing.

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 4:05:48 PM   
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I drew something on my ex (before she was my ex) and she went and got it as a tattoo as a gift to me.  It was what I called her in huge letters on her abdomen.  We broke up a year later.  It's still there.

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 7:44:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masterlink65

as a tattoo artist i personally hate doing kenji and kanji. but seeing how your mistress speak japenese, i can see it having more meaning. someone mention risk of infection. if you go to a professional there should really be no risk of infection unless it does not get the proper aftercare.

i would suggest something that has meaning to the both of you. after all it will be on your body forever.

the master/slave community have several symbols that can be used, or create your own. who is this tattoo intended for? public display of ownership? display of ownership within the community? or a personal bond between the two of you?


it is intended for a personal bond between the 2 of us but i'm not one for english lol I have hieroglyphs,  astrological  and metaphysical symbols already tatooed on me (non bdsm related).   The Japanese Kanji was actually my idea and although I dont' speak Japanese I have a interest in the culture and have had long before I met her.    
But it is also to display ownership in a semi public way.      I like things to be visable but I also don't like to cause a scene and thought with Kanji that while some people could read it most can not.  And if those that can read it see it says something like pet or property etc and are not into kink they will assume I intended it to say something else lol.  

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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 8:18:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

On the negative side, there is some danger of infection in getting a tattoo.  There is also the danger of your next dominant/submissive not being all that happy with a big tattoo spelling out someone else's ownership in a blatant fashion.  Then, what do you do?  Get rid of it?  Cover it in some way? 

I like subtlety.  I've discussed tattoos with various people through the years and I've discussed ownership/owned tattoos with submissives.  My second submissive carries a tattoo that meant something to us from the D/s context we shared and the romantic relationship.  It was not overt and yet had a D/s theme that most in D/s would recognize.  And when we split, she could go forward with it as a reminder of our better times and yet not offend a potential future owner with a blatant statement of my ownership of her.

I think it depends on the individuals involved, their understanding and appreciation of body art, and the depth of the commitment not only to each other but to the artwork.


I agree with this post.

If I ever got to the point of ownership with someone, I wouldn't want a permanent marking. Call me a cynic, but thats exactly for the reasons CD pointed out above. If for some reason the sub/slave in question gets released, then what? Yes, you can remove it, but from what I've understood, it's expensive as hell.

I'd more than likely go with a ring of some sort. Maybe a sterling silver ring with Her initials engraved in it. Alternatively, I (personally) have always liked the idea of a dog tag.


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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 11:39:22 PM   
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This one has several tattoos already and we have sat down together and planned a tattoo that was not intended as His mark on me in the beginning, but as a tribute to Him, for this one was leaving Him at the time. It will have Kanji writing in it and like you say...not everyone can read it, but is very popular. It will go over my heart, so that He will forever be in it, even if we are not together.  Recently we also discussed that this one would like for Him to have part of the same Kanji tattooed that this one will have, the part that identifies Him of course.  This one thinks it is a beautiful expression of devotion on both parts. And, if for some crazy reason we do part ways again, this one can only hope a new Master would be accepting of the fact this girl had a life before...if ever a new Master she would seek. Cannot live life thinking "What if"! Just go with it!




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RE: Tattoo's of ownership - 9/9/2009 11:47:48 PM   
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To break toe mould of Masters having "Master" tattooed on them and "Slave" on their property. I would prefer to have it done in ancient Irish Gaelic which is part of my blood line anyway or even done in Norse Runic which again is part of my blood line. 

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