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African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/9/2009 7:49:34 PM   
Elisabella


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Status: offline 		I was just wondering if any blacks/people of African descent outside of the US are annoyed at the ethnicity choices offered.

Wouldn't it suck to be a Black European and have to choose between "African American" and "Other" for your race? Or is the ethnicity filtered somehow so "African American" turns into "Black" for members outside the US?

I know this is totally random but..."Black" is a race/ethnicity. "African American" is a heritage/nationality combination.
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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/9/2009 7:59:50 PM   
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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/9/2009 8:13:12 PM   
Elisabella


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Status: offline 		Hi servant,

I've experienced the same - most Blacks I know call themselves "Black," just like most Whites I know say "White" instead of "Caucasian." I can see how things like CM would be more formal, but still, the term "Black" is more encompassing than "African American."

I remember reading a blog once by an Indigenous Australian woman, she said that she was asked once if it was hard to care for "African-American hair" and her response was something like "Well, I'm neither African nor American so I wouldn't know."

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/9/2009 8:26:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are a couple of threads through out CM that have my view on this so called "Politicaly Correct" term.

I did find it funny when a white male won an African American scholarship. He was born in Africa and then imigrated to the United States. So when asked or needed to put the answer on an application, he always answered with "African American" The NAACP is still not happy him winning the scholarship.

http://www.ask500people.com/questions/is-it-right-for-an-african-american-scholarship-committee-to-get-peeved-if-a-south-african-wins-one-of-their-scholarships

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/9/2009 9:07:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm Jewish, and I have heard the term used to describe both the heritage and the religion.  We are a confused people.

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/9/2009 10:03:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suppose you are right, but it seems a pretty small thing to get one's knickers in a twist about...but I'm white so what do I really know.eh?

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/9/2009 11:10:41 PM   
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I suppose you are right, but it seems a pretty small thing to get one's knickers in a twist about...but I'm white so what do I really know.eh?


And male.

You oppressor YOU! 

Actually, I am feeling oppressed by you just reading your post. 

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/9/2009 11:48:20 PM   
GreedyTop


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Most black folks I know prefer to be called black, too.  Unless theyre from a different country, then they prefer to be identified by which country they come from.


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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 6:27:26 AM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		Hmm... Would I be brown?  There are way too many ethnicities that could be covered in my color.  I am hispanic and french.  I think if I were a color it would be caffe latte.

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 7:11:13 AM   
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Also don't forget that there are Africans with white skin, as well as Mexicans.

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 7:37:59 AM   
SL4V3M4YB3


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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
Wouldn't it suck to be a Black European and have to choose between "African American" and "Other" for your race? Or is the ethnicity filtered somehow so "African American" turns into "Black" for members outside the US?

I know this is totally random but..."Black" is a race/ethnicity. "African American" is a heritage/nationality combination.

African American doesn't appear as a choice here. It would probably be 'Black Other' as opposed to 'Black British'.

The problem is people have to pick one of the options and you can't account for all combinations so quite a few pick the 'not represented' option, or they also pick that if they don't like intrusive surveys that mostly do nothing for them.

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 7:42:41 AM   
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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 7:45:32 AM   
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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 7:48:42 AM   
xoxkittenxox


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Status: offline 		No. But they all acted like it. I lived in Citrus Heights, Sacramento, CA. It wasn't even in "the hood". They all just acted like it.

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 8:36:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Hmm... Would I be brown?  There are way too many ethnicities that could be covered in my color.  I am hispanic and french.  I think if I were a color it would be caffe latte.


One of my exes used to say I was mocha which I always liked.

My parents refer to themselves as Fiji-Indians but I always consider myself an Aussie as saying Fijian-Indian-Australian would be a bit of a mouthful 


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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 8:42:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've never been too keen on the "African-American" label, because my ancestors came from France to the US (by way of Quebec), and there's never a choice for me - "French-American".  What's that you say?  I wasn't born in France?  Yeah no kidding.  And most of the black people I know have never been to Africa, let alone being born there.

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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 8:54:38 AM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		My people were somewhat nomadic, and travelled between Mexico and the Santa Barbara.  Technically my heritage is Spanish, Native North American, and French.   I am not sure if that would add a bit of cinnamon to the Latte.
Color is not an ethnicity.  I call myself American being of people happened to live in Ca before it was part of the USA.  Long title.  But I identify that way because many people still assume that heritage puts you in a lessor catagory. 
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Hmm... Would I be brown?  There are way too many ethnicities that could be covered in my color.  I am hispanic and french.  I think if I were a color it would be caffe latte.


One of my exes used to say I was mocha which I always liked.

My parents refer to themselves as Fiji-Indians but I always consider myself an Aussie as saying Fijian-Indian-Australian would be a bit of a mouthful 


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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 8:55:08 AM   
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I'm Jewish, and I have heard the term used to describe both the heritage and the religion.  We are a confused people.


i, too, am part of this particular diaspora on Parental Unit side A.  On side B, i'm Scotch-Irish.  Therefore, constantly drunk on Manishevitz wine.   (To stay with the un-PC theme).


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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 8:59:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Who invented this African-American "label" and to what use? It is not as if we can't see what their roots are.
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RE: African American is not an ethnicity. - 9/10/2009 9:09:34 AM   
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