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being alone... - 9/10/2009 1:58:11 AM   
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What do you do when you're afraid of being alone?  And I'm not talking about being alone in the dark.  I'm talking about being alone without your significant other with you.  I'm scared to death of being lonely and alone.  Thoughts keeps clouding my mind and I can't pull away from them.  Nothing seems to matter (to an extent) and I go into minor depressive episodes.  I mean, it's not to the point where my life is in ruins and lose all my friends/family or anything like that.  I just don't want it to get to that level.  I feel weak and can't stand on my own without someone always beside me.  That is unrealistic and unreasonable.  I am just seeking advice on how I can overcome this weakness...

[Note:  Don't worry, I am definitely not suicidal.  I love my life, am very grateful for what I have, and I certainly have family to think about.]

Thanks a bunch! 


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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 2:14:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jeninvegas

What do you do when you're afraid of being alone?  And I'm not talking about being alone in the dark.  I'm talking about being alone without your significant other with you.  I'm scared to death of being lonely and alone.  Thoughts keeps clouding my mind and I can't pull away from them.  Nothing seems to matter (to an extent) and I go into minor depressive episodes.  I mean, it's not to the point where my life is in ruins and lose all my friends/family or anything like that.  I just don't want it to get to that level.  I feel weak and can't stand on my own without someone always beside me.  That is unrealistic and unreasonable.  I am just seeking advice on how I can overcome this weakness...

[Note:  Don't worry, I am definitely not suicidal.  I love my life, am very grateful for what I have, and I certainly have family to think about.]

Thanks a bunch! 



I know this is going to sound lame, but the best advice I can offer is to do something. Read a book, go for a cycle ride, pop out for a movie, whatever. It doesn't matter what, so long as it stops you from sitting around moping. The more time and space a brain has to think about things, the more it will do so, focussing on the negative. Don't let it - do stuff to keep it actively engaged doing other things.

Longer term, learn to love yourself (seriously) and just relax more about things you can't change. It all works itself out in the end*.

* one way or the other

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 3:36:50 AM   
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Therapy is your friend.


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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 4:11:24 AM   
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I'm not sure if you mean that you feel alone if he's away from your side for an hour, or if you mean that you have a fear that some day you will have no man in your life.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 4:14:57 AM   
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Therapy is your friend.



Hmmmmmm ... not so sure about that ... it's not that I'm anti-therapy, per se, more pro-self realisation, if that makes any sense.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 4:18:03 AM   
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I think you have to be happy and comfortable being alone before you can ever truly be happy with another.

Just my opinion.


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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 4:25:22 AM   
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I think you have to be happy and comfortable being alone before you can ever truly be happy with another.

Just my opinion.



I've spent plenty of time in both comfortable and uncomfortable bachelorhood, and happy and unhappy relationships. All told I have come to the conclusion that this line of thought is a total cop-out. And a destructive one, at that.

If you're miserable single, it's not because you're broken and need to sort your head out to find someone. It's because we are built to be social creatures who have relations with the opposite sex (edit: or same sex, for some) and our instincts and even our basic physiology conspire to make us thoroughly aware of that. Ignore this at your peril.

If you're not miserable single, hooray! If you get along fine by yourself, good for you. But don't get nosebleeds around people who aren't able to be as 'level headed' as you.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 4:40:53 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: daintydimples

I think you have to be happy and comfortable being alone before you can ever truly be happy with another.

Just my opinion.



I've spent plenty of time in both comfortable and uncomfortable bachelorhood, and happy and unhappy relationships. All told I have come to the conclusion that this line of thought is a total cop-out. And a destructive one, at that.

If you're miserable single, it's not because you're broken and need to sort your head out to find someone. It's because we are built to be social creatures who have relations with the opposite sex (edit: or same sex, for some) and our instincts and even our basic physiology conspire to make us thoroughly aware of that. Ignore this at your peril.

If you're not miserable single, hooray! If you get along fine by yourself, good for you. But don't get nosebleeds around people who aren't able to be as 'level headed' as you.


We're also creatures who are sometimes prone to seek things out as the result of fears, weakness, neediness and insecurites, rather than companionship.  A person should know the difference.   

Being paralyzed with the fear of lonliness because you don't have a partner isn't a healthy or comfortable state of mind.  This person needs some help with that before venturing out into a relationship possibly for all the wrong reasons.

Having said that, I agree, there is nothing wrong with feeling happier having a partner in your life, as opposed to being single.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 5:05:23 AM   
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If you're not miserable single, hooray! If you get along fine by yourself, good for you. But don't get nosebleeds around people who aren't able to be as 'level headed' as you.

At my age, there's just not that much I get "nosebleeds" about. It's the beauty part of being in your 50s, you know yourself.

I agree that we all have a deep psychological need to be partnered up, but how you handle that need says a lot about you. Do you pick the first low hanging fruit that comes along because you HAVE to be with someone? Are you so picky and critical about what you are looking for in another that NO ONE will ever meet that high standard? Both of these attitudes lead to tragedy, and speak of a need to spend some time reflecting about who you are and how you got where you are.

Self reflection is painful. A person might not be terribly happy doing it, but brooding about it doesn't get the job done.

Some soften by the forced reflection that comes from loss; others harden. Which are you?

That quote has been in a signature line since I've been on CM. It's there for a reason. It's an original quote that I believe says a great deal in a very few words. Deep loss tends to inspire self reflection. Although this period of self reflection causes some to harden and others to soften, there is no universally right or wrong answer to that question. It depends on the individual. Some need to toughen up and quit picking the low hanging fruit. Others need to let down their defenses and open up and give someone a real chance. Only you can see what you need to do, but you'll never get there if you don't stop whining about how lonely you are and spend that painful time in self reflection.

Self knowledge can lead to happiness, of a sort.


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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 8:06:10 AM   
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as someone who had severe codependancy issues my whole life, I am just now over coming them. And therapy did not get me where I am , AT ALL (I have years of it under my belt).

What helped me most, was changing my job. I now work in an environment with girls who are my own age so this fostered great relationships. I keep busy and dont have a lot of down time when the man of interest isnt around.

Addressing this with him is also important, of course, we dont want to use the word Co-D or needy, but if you are in a place with him where you feel comfortable asking for "reminders" do it! Little love notes, texts, emails, ecards, a call, just something to get you through the long stretch of it.

these feelings come from feelings of insecurity. If you felt completely secure with your relationship (I know its hard to hear and the idea most likely will make you angry) you wouldnt have these thoughts. Ask him to be more open with his affections and thoughts of you. If your relationship esteem is high, you will feel comfortable being apart, and sometimes even desire it ;)

these concepts are hard to explain, but after about 3 years of working on it, I have made progress.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 8:52:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jeninvegas

What do you do when you're afraid of being alone?  And I'm not talking about being alone in the dark.  I'm talking about being alone without your significant other with you.  I'm scared to death of being lonely and alone.  Thoughts keeps clouding my mind and I can't pull away from them.  Nothing seems to matter (to an extent) and I go into minor depressive episodes.  I mean, it's not to the point where my life is in ruins and lose all my friends/family or anything like that.  I just don't want it to get to that level.  I feel weak and can't stand on my own without someone always beside me.  That is unrealistic and unreasonable.  I am just seeking advice on how I can overcome this weakness...

[Note:  Don't worry, I am definitely not suicidal.  I love my life, am very grateful for what I have, and I certainly have family to think about.]

Thanks a bunch! 



After moving interstate and leaving good friends behind, my relationship had failed which is why I left the state. I lost both my friends and lover...at least I had my work which I had a love/hate relationship with...then I got injured so now find myself without friends, lover and work/social life.....all the things I used to dread. Luckily I have my family. It is not as bad as I dreaded, although it is lonely. I am not prepared to jump into any relationship for the sake of being in a relationship though.......and so I wait

ETA: Luckily I am happy with my own company and I have the internet to stay in touch with things happening out there....I have started to see a psychologist though as 2 years of isolation and pain was slowly sending me mad, I am actually quite alright, considering.

I have found, and always believed, don't dwell on the negatives as that will make one really depressed. I still adhere to the 'Pollyanna' theory and find the best in all I can.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 9:09:40 AM   
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I would personally get therapy and deal with the issues and work further to becoming healthy.
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ORIGINAL: jeninvegas

What do you do when you're afraid of being alone?  And I'm not talking about being alone in the dark.  I'm talking about being alone without your significant other with you.  I'm scared to death of being lonely and alone.  Thoughts keeps clouding my mind and I can't pull away from them.  Nothing seems to matter (to an extent) and I go into minor depressive episodes.  I mean, it's not to the point where my life is in ruins and lose all my friends/family or anything like that.  I just don't want it to get to that level.  I feel weak and can't stand on my own without someone always beside me.  That is unrealistic and unreasonable.  I am just seeking advice on how I can overcome this weakness...

[Note:  Don't worry, I am definitely not suicidal.  I love my life, am very grateful for what I have, and I certainly have family to think about.]

Thanks a bunch! 


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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 10:18:18 AM   
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What do you do when you're afraid of being alone? And I'm not talking about being alone in the dark. I'm talking about being alone without your significant other with you. I'm scared to death of being lonely and alone. Thoughts keeps clouding my mind and I can't pull away from them. Nothing seems to matter (to an extent) and I go into minor depressive episodes.




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Therapy is your friend.



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I would personally get therapy and deal with the issues and work further to becoming healthy.



What is wrong with people here? I mean, seriously...

I'm not prepared to be so judgmental and would go along with what daintydimples and RapierFugue have touched upon.

I could say that in order to be in a relationship with someone and love them you first have to love yourself, but that in some cases for some people would be too much of an ideal and it might be something that they know themselves but find very hard to achieve.

Different things happen in life and we all go through experiences in which we learn a bit more about ourselves and not always do we arrive at a satisfactory conclusion or indeed form a positive opinion of ourselves.

RapierFugue is right, in that you perhaps need to find activities and things which take up your time and occupy your mind so that you aren't dwelling on the problem.

However daintydimples is also right, while you may not be madly in love with yourself you do certainly need to be comfortable with yourself and happy with yourself before becoming emotionally involved in a relationship with another person, especially if you intend or indeed regard that other person as your significant other.

Becoming emotionally dependent on someone else and expecting them to provide you with the validation you ought to really be providing for yourself at best places a strain on the relationship and at worst is a dangerous game to play. What if the relationship falls apart? What then? Your life falls apart and so too does your self-image. Is this what you really want? Think about it.

I think it was Marie Curie Sklodowska who once said 'We fear what we don't fully know or understand.' That is all fear really is in reality, a lack of knowledge or understanding and learning to understand and getting to know is a very good way of dealing with fears.

What I feel you need here isn't therapy at all, but validation and what you really need to be doing I feel is to be getting into the habit of providing yourself with your own validation. This involves knowing yourself or getting to know yourself, looking at yourself objectively and reminding yourself that yes, you do have weaknesses and issues, but you also have good points, strengths, and things about you which make you attractive to other people.

I mean, you're in a relationship here, aren't you? That's more than a lot of people have, but what was it that attracted your significant other to you? What brings other people to you? What draws them? What are the nice things people say to you about you, and what prevents you from accepting or believing them? Do you know? Are you aware?

In theory it should be easy to resolve this issue, it's all in the mind, and all you need to change your perception of yourself to a more positive perception is to simply change your mind. However in order to do that you need some sort of validation and ideally to find some way of providing that validation on your own.

There's different ways of doing this. You can do this quite often through doing stuff and activities which you are good at, things which you know you will succeed at or have a fair idea that you could succeed. You could go off and meet a friend, talk about it if you like, or just simply spend time with them. Or even you could do something like having your birth chart or horoscope worked out or seeing someone like an astrologer, Tarot card reader, or numerologist. That's why some people go to see such people, there may be lots of different reasons, but I would suggest that one of the major reasons is simply getting some much needed validation.



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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 11:00:37 AM   
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Well that just blew anything I thought about typing right out of the bloody water!!

Excellent post Stella!


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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 1:16:49 PM   
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Therapy is self realization, just a lot faster than you can do it on your own. Like using an accountant, you're still responsible for signing the tax return and paying the bill, but you don't have to spend a week staring at forms that make no sense.

Go volunteer. Habitat for Humanity. Soup kitchens. Socializing animals in shelters.

In fact, consider adopting a pet, you might find them enough company during lonely times. Although mine's a pain in bed, he hogs the covers and keeps jumping in and out of bed. He's exiled to the floor from now on.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 1:35:43 PM   
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When Bob left- the place was empty. It was always "our" apartment.   Bills got heavy so I moved across the river.  To where- I had "my" place.   I since moved again.  I am gosh 300 feet from "our" apartment.

I live alone and I love it.

You adjust.   Believe me.  I never thought I would- but I did.   

My junk is exactly the way I left it. If it breaks- I broke it.  The temp the music- the stuff MY WAY.  
If the electric bill is high- I did it.  I did it.

I love it.

I tho have a few pets now.   The pets take up space- which is pretty much what Bob did.

I went on to buy a big house.  He now rents a room above a tavern.
But he is free.  and I am free.

....when he split I got the appliances!    :-)

ANyhow it did help to move.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 1:40:09 PM   
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Another thought Jen. Is this how you've always been? Any chance it's  actually an undiagnosed anxiety disorder? Because there is help for that.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 2:55:45 PM   
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Therapy is self realization, just a lot faster than you can do it on your own. Like using an accountant, you're still responsible for signing the tax return and paying the bill, but you don't have to spend a week staring at forms that make no sense.



Yes yes, I'm aware that therapy does have it's place but I'm also aware that there's such a thing as life and also the general concept of just getting out of bed in the morning and dealing with it.

Life invariably comes with problems, dilemmas, issues, baggage and even crises, all which have to be faced up to and dealt with - I mean, how else are you going to develop, grow and mature?

Therapy to me is there for when there's a SERIOUS problem or issue which after a number of attempts you cannot deal with and you cannot function even on a basic level.

I'm sorry, but advocating therapy in this case is a bit like expecting an ambulance to take you to ER for a migraine.

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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 3:53:59 PM   
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Well that just blew anything I thought about typing right out of the bloody water!!

Excellent post Stella!



Don't ya just hate when she does that  ROFL.




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RE: being alone... - 9/10/2009 4:10:34 PM   
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Sorry Stella, I disagree. Somebody who freaks out whenever she is alone is dealing with a serious issue. Which is why I suggested she get some help. Around here, psychologists frequently do diagnose treatable disorders like Anxiety Disorder. And a combined treatment of medication and desensitizing her could reduce the problem a lot faster than she's been able to do on her own.

If she's been dealing with this unsuccessfully for the 24 years of her life, why not try something new? That maybe will work in 2 years instead of another 24.

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