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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Many hospitals have changed their rules a bit. Many are now triaging patients, and turning away those who are truly nonemergent. Meaning... got a cold? go home. Got the flu? go home. The days of using the ER as an outpatient clinic are quickly coming to a close. People are being turned away based upon diagnosis.

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ORIGINAL: Leiren

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Many hospitals have changed their rules a bit. Many are now triaging patients, and turning away those who are truly nonemergent. Meaning... got a cold? go home. Got the flu? go home. The days of using the ER as an outpatient clinic are quickly coming to a close. People are being turned away based upon diagnosis.

I see nothing wrong with this approach. Too many people depend on the ER if they have an ingrown toenail. Why should I pay for these people who can't be bothered to take even the slightest interest in prevention of these problems rather than depending on other tax payers to foot their non-emergency conditions?

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"Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.

Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."


http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?feat=home_cube_position1

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

The question is, why is it that this representative was able to without protest vote for a bill the specifically earmarked money for health care for illegal aliens suddenly so moved to rage by the idea of government money being spent for health care for illegal aliens drive him to such a wild rage that he felt it necessary to call the president a liar in the middle of a formal address, an action that horrified even his own party members in it's rudeness?

Could it be that this "spontaneous show of outrage" wasn't quite as spontaneous as it was claimed to be?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Here's something else that's too good to miss - Joe Wilson was right!
Barack Obama, speaking to LaRaza this week:

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"Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.

Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."


http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?feat=home_cube_position1

Make the illegals legal, grant them amnesty, and then they will be covered under Obamacare.

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Now, as you know, there's been a little controversy about who exactly will be covered under reform. I want to be clear: If someone is here illegally, they won't be covered under this plan. That's a commitment I've made. But I also want to make this clear: Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken. (Applause.) That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else. (Applause.) And we certainly should not let this debate on health care -- one so essential to Hispanic Americans and all Americans -- get sidetracked by those looking to exploit divisions and kill reform at any cost. That's what they always try to do.

If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all. That's what I've said from the start. That's what I say tonight. (Applause.)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

So now you are a mind reader? Just like everyone read his mind when it came to the health care bill and what was in it and wasnt? till i had to go through it and prove, post after post, the "misconceptions"?

Find where he ever said amnesty... until then... when you assume.. make sure you point out you are assuming without proof.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its not up to me to read his mind either. That would be a different measure for his administration, seperate from the health care bill. IF he ever wants that, i would be completely against amnesty.

He hasnt said that. and, yes, there is no yet there.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its not up to me to read his mind either. That would be a different measure for his administration, seperate from the health care bill. IF he ever wants that, i would be completely against amnesty.

He hasnt said that. and, yes, there is no yet there.

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Napolitano, addressing attendees at the 2009 Domenici Public Policy Conference, said immigration reform won't be taken up prominently until after the health-care reform issue is addressed. Still, she said it remains a goal of President Barack Obama's. She noted some work has begun in the Senate on draft legislation and said work is going on "behind the scenes."

"Once the Congress is done with health care, this will be one of the top three priorities he has, which is to really look at the underlying law, which from the immigration enforcement side needs to be strengthened in some areas and which on the legal migration side needs to be adjusted, so that we're really dealing with the work flow and labor issues that have been involved," she said.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

We arent going to insure illegals.