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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 11:21:38 AM   
masterofholly


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This is Jim.

Rainfire, you are demonstrating a great deal of dignity and class.

Lumus, learn from your wife. I do not hold out much hope that you can ever reach the same level that Rain and Holly demonstrate, but do try.

Holly has shown me the correspondence between you and she. The comments you made to my wife were insulting, rude, ignorant and completely uncalled for. Holly managed to show amazing restraint by not telling you exactly what she thought of you personally as well as your behavior. She did so only because she thinks so highly of your wife. Holly has been a support system to Rain when one was needed. Where were you?

If you have anything further to say to my wife you WILL do it through me. Do you understand this? I doubt any correspondence will be sent, as it seems it in only the submissive females you attempt to bully and lure into cybersex.

In closing I want to make a public statement that I am married to one hell of a woman. Hols, I am honored to be your husband.



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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 11:24:10 AM   
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"Mr. Jim, will you adopt me"??

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 11:29:21 AM   
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that was amazing Jim!  im pretty sure the admiration goes both ways between the two of Y/you.

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 12:24:54 PM   
SteelofUtah


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To the Bickering, the Bullshit, and the Chest Thumping.

Who are any of us to make snide remarks on this? Because it is a public forum we take the reign and go about deciding who is worthy and who is right?

Lumus and Rain are where they want to be and if they aren't then THEY, and ONLY THEY will make the decision to change that.

I do not care for Public Drawn Crap. There is enough Nastiness in this lifestyle from the Abuse to the Fantasy Finders who break hearts and never relent for their sins, this lifestyle has enough tears and sorrow. I would NEVER ask any one of my girls to post a Public Apollogy, That is what Phone calls, Face to Face and if that isn't possible at very least Private E-mails are for. It isn't for the world to see that my slave is sorry for her actions, it is for me to see and decide if I accept.

All this being said you would think that I think less of Lumus for the creation of this thread. I do not. I don't see that this is a way to humilate Rain I see this is a Kill Switch to explain why Rain will be changing her communication styles and no one has to worry about her while this happens because in her own words she has told all the people why she will not be responding the way she was.

All this being said the Drama is stupid, and this is why Communication is so important. All the Holier-than-thou making the snide comments on what is right and what is wrong and then saying that they would never put themselves in a position to have their own lives scrutinized in such a way should know better than to comment then .

Jim and holly you have a wonderful relationship that works for you and I am happy for you both and apparently you both have decided to take a bad situation and step inside. I will not chastize anyone in this I will simply ask if the shoes were on the other feet would you still feel the way you feel?

Lumus, it has been a long time since I read your words here, I hope things are well with you, life and honor are offten hard to balance. Whatever the whole real story is I only hope that you see the good in what was done and where you were in her thoughts when she did whatever this whole thing is about.

You, it would seem, were the reason she did it, good or bad that has to count for something.

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 12:29:12 PM   
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I am married to one hell of a woman. Hols, I am honored to be your husband.


it is i you honor.
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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 12:32:41 PM   
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 Awwwwww I didn't think you cared, Clumsy!

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 1:28:41 PM   
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That Jim is one hell of a guy! 

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 1:28:47 PM   
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I want what Jim and Holly have.

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 1:33:05 PM   
LaTigresse


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Well it's sad to know that I wasn't the only one that got a childishly rude email. Temper tantrums are for 2 year olds. Not 37 year olds.

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 1:34:11 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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You mean my reward for holding my tongue was that I didn't get hate mail?  Speshul.

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 1:39:12 PM   
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Apparently so.

The childish behaviour that followed was even more impressive.........not.


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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 3:59:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: masterofholly
it seems it in only the submissive females you attempt to bully and lure into cybersex.



Um, wait a sec.  Are you saying that the guy who has expressly forbidden rain from contacting any men except for one gay fella, is trying to cyber with women at the same time?


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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 4:00:09 PM   
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Steven is a really smart guy.  I mentioned that after teh Calibirthday, right? 

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 4:01:02 PM   
tammystarm


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yes actually that is exactly what He was saying. im glad He said it too. ive been holding my tongue on this one!


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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 6:42:22 PM   
Lumus


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To be clear, I'll start by noting that both Rain and I are sitting here, scratching our heads, wondering just what the fuck some people are smoking in these parts.

Jim might have claimed I'm cybering with other women.  I'm sure holly would jump on that because she loves train wrecks, it's self-professed.  Now, in reality, I work in the centre of an open-space area with a camera trained on My station anywhere from 9-10 hours a day.  Then I come home and spend time with My son or use the computer in My living room, where I'm not inclined to bring up anything sexual or pornographic with My son running around.  Then when he goes to bed I turn to My wife and ask her what she would like to do for the evening.  Then we do that.  Then I sleep.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

That's My life, folks.  I know, it sounds thrilling and amazing, but don't be jealous.   Seriously, though, this is my life.  Exactly when would I be cybering?  Has anyone around here seen Me slapping a collar on another woman?  NO.  Why?  I don't want to?  Is that a good enough reason for those out there who really need to judge?

Rain recently moved from submissive to slave.  A few might have noticed.  It was her choice and request and I honoured it.  This thread followed from that for reasons that suit Me and suit her.  It was not, as so many choose to assume, for attention because I'll tell you all now to fuck yourselves and find another train wreck.  We went off the rails but Rain and I are back on track, and if My asking her to post the apology ties your knickers in a knot, DEAL with it.  It ain't your household, folks, and what works for Me doesn't have to work for others.  Or have we stopped being subjective?  Did that happen in My absence - is it more significant to define people in absolutes?

Oh, for those of you who have offered Rain support, thank you.  She does need it and I understand and respect that.  The few ignorant folk who have taken it to new levels by insisting they have a personal stake in My collar and her neck have been told to fuck off and that's that.

Jim, either you can't read or you have poor judgment, and given what I know of your household from the gabbing of the ladyfolk I'd call it the latter.  Stones in glass houses, My good man.  I'll leave it at that because neither you nor holly deserve any more attention from this.  I'll block you to be civil and let Rain make her own choice in the matter.  [How's that for being an asshole?]

Oh, and Steel...things are as they are, and it's not as bad as it's been made out to be.  Have a cold one for Me, dude.




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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 7:47:44 PM   
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~~FAST RESPONSE~~

I was really hoping that after my last response, this thread would die and be allowed to rot in peace.

As has been stated in private messages, I've asked for respect in regards to decisions made, and choices made. I agree with Lumus that He did what He felt is right for us and not necessarily other people. I agree with Him that this thread wasn't done for attention but simply to publicly apologize (hence the title) and acknowledge certain circumstances. I am thankful and appreciative of the support and caring shown but feel a line has been crossed. At what point do we as a community here support a person but then take it too far and in trying to show love and support, start to cause damage? Feelings have been hurt and insults taken when that didn't need to happen. I must also admit to feeling distressed over accusations of bullying on Lumus' part because while He has answered private cmails strongly and passionately, for the most it's only been submissive women who have addressed this issue with Him. He answered as person to person, not Dominant Male to submissive woman. He expects submission from me only, not anyone else. (And to clarify that point, He gets it from me out of love and respect, not fear and beatings.)  Should a male Dominant choose to cmail Him regarding this matter, they would have gotten the same type of responses had the matter been addressed and expressed in similar fashion. Lumus doesn't give a rat's ass about whether someone is male or female, dominant or submissive, but replies based on the tone of the message received, reason with reason, sarcasm with sarcasm, etc., etc., etc. Jim, having been sitting here with Lumus this whole thread, I know that He has never made the "attempt to bully and lure into cybersex".

On this path we call "life", each of us has to make decisions for ourselves. While at time those decisions include other people, such as spouses and children, we also have to learn to step aside and let those around us make their own decisions for themselves. Y'all know what? Sometimes, those decisions suck big donkey balls. Sometimes, they are life-altering and change us forever, whether we like it or not. That's life. It's how we deal with these things and what we learn that's important. As Lumus stated, we are back on track, where we want to be. Yes, you read that right - "we". Not just Him, not just me, but we as a couple. Life ain't a fairy tale to be painted in pretty pastels, some times, the damn road has massive potholes and bumps. That's what fixing and repairing them is about - to address and smooth things. This thread was a first step in that process. And with good grace, it will continue and strengthen the path we follow.

Now, can we all move on and get back to life? Can we let this thread die? Moderators, feel free to pull it, at this point it's doing more harm than the lesson it was intended for.

I'm moving on myself, feel free to move on as well.       




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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 7:53:09 PM   
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quote:

As Lumus stated, we are back on track, where we want to be


Of that, I'm glad to hear, Rain.

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 7:55:23 PM   
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quote:

Rain recently moved from submissive to slave.


There's a difference?!

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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 7:57:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

There's a difference?!


Daddy says yes there is, DC, and you know better.....


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RE: my apologies and punishment - 9/15/2009 8:06:16 PM   
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Whoo!!!! Hoo!!!!!!!!!

Glad to hear it Rainy one!


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