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Personal Info posted


Apology too much
  12% (7)
Sex antics too much
  5% (3)
Neither, I like reading everything personal
  20% (11)
Doesnt' matter, I skip the drama.
  58% (32)
Sex, never TMI
  3% (2)


Total Votes : 55
(last vote on : 10/17/2009 10:03:22 PM)
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windchymes -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 3:30:32 PM)

IMO, if people post their personal business in a public place, like this forum, then they WANT a lot of people to know what they've been up to.

Edited to add........

Ok, I came back to elaborate, since I realized this sounded like John Madden overstating the obvious.....

What I should have said, is, in spite of they saying that they don't like or want drama.......now go back to the beginning and play to the sign.




stella41b -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 4:13:34 PM)

I think part of this is part and parcel of being on the Internet. You come across people who have obviously elevated themselves to becoming legends in their own minds or even Internet celebrity status and they not only believe their own publicity but also feel that the rest of us are, I don't know, here to lap up the juicy titbits they give us from their lives. The fact that some of them couldn't even get a job interview, let alone an interview with a glossy magazine, doesn't stop them or disabuse them of their illusions. Youtube for example is chock full of such people.

You find it on this site too. In fact there's one domme in particular who comes to mind in the UK who isn't just the celebrity with 'fans' but has also set herself up as her own personal gossip columnist and beside bitching about others on the site she also bitches about those who write to her, dropping names almost with the same alacrity as that film director Michael Winner.

I just put it down to basic attention-seeking behaviour and I do wonder, if their lives were really all that fulfilling and the scenes and sex so wonderful would they really be posting about it? Or even for that matter have the time to do so?

It's not my thing (though yes, I did go through such a phase myself) but hey, this site caters for all types and everyone has a place here and the right to post whatever they like as long as it sits well with the TOS of the site.

After all, who I am to judge?




DemonKia -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 4:32:00 PM)

Well, that Stella, & there's exhibitionists & voyeurs here, & not just with respect to sex & nudity.

I consider myself to be both an emotional exhibitionist & an emotional voyeur far more than physical. In part because the opportunities for the physical are far more constrained than for social & emotional exhibitionism & voyeurism . . . . (Um, the very concept of TMI lives in my notions of social & emotional exhib. & voy., FYI . . . . . )

& I suspect I'm not the only one. Just as I suspect that a certain portion of life's attention whores fit into this notion of emotional / social exhibitionism . . . . .




girlygurl -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 4:39:48 PM)

Didn't vote

There is such a thing as over disclosure of ones personal life. I have been guilty of it and i'm learning through those mistakes.

Red said some very wise words.... if there's lots of fire in the kitchen, pots boiling over, spoons stirring those bubbling pots, it's best to back the heck out [:)]

You is smart Red! smooch!




VirginPotty -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 5:05:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalista07

uh....So Red....What is it You are really trying to tell me then?  eh??

Kali

Who frankly....Finds this entire thread in bad taste.



why is that? I posted this because the Apology thread sparked alot of emotions that I don't see when other private acts are posted and I just wondered why.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 5:08:49 PM)

Oh, yeah... I guess I see what Kali means, though it didn't occur to me that folks who really do share their lives here might feel picked on. 

I was right with you, Pots, but now I am thinking, HMMMM, what IS the difference between folks venting and sharing their shit and looking for support and those just riding the drama llama?  Is the difference whether they are our FRIENDS or not?





sunshinemiss -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 5:28:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

quote:

ORIGINAL: AngelGeena

How do I hide someones posts?


On the left, where their avatar is, beneath that there are 3 buttons L to R Hide, Profile and PM.
You just click on hide.


And then you yell real loud:  ALL - EY   ALL - EY OUT ARE IN FREE! 
And see who comes a running.  That's what I do.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 5:53:35 PM)

I have a real problem with victim mentality and harming of others.  *shocking, I know*.

The thing is that I've worked with a lot of seriously horribly abused people, children mostly.  And I've watched those same children grow up to become strong, independent, fierce adults.  They deal with their crap, move on, and become wonderful members of society.  I worked with a kid who had schizophrenia, was borderline MR, had a serious medical ailment, and who witnessed his uncle's murder.  I had to teach him the difference between a flashback and hearing voices.  And he STILL got his stuff together.  If anyone has had it that bad, and they are under say... 25 or so, then, yes, I'll be supportive and whatnot.  Beyond that, I don't need to be a witness to your nonsense - because it doesn't help!  This does not mean there is no place for constructive help, requests for venting, support, criticism.  No, that's fine.  But people who are stuck in a rut, don't take personal responsibility, and who dump (not vent), well that's just attention seeking nonsense.  No offer of support and kindness will ever help them.  It is only a method of enabling them.  THAT I will not do and don't like seeing on the boards.  Who needs to be on that merry go round?

As for the sexual stuff, it's a kink site, so it is par for the course I think.  There was a thread about cuckolding that was very intensely personal.  But I understood that phenomenon after reading it.  So yes, in depth information can be a wonderful thing.  And the hot stuff.  Sure, why not?

What bothers me the most about the personal stuff is when it becomes 1. bickering and 2. blaming behavior.  There is ALWAYS more than one side to every story, so the blaming is nonsense (particularly since we can't really express, nor can we interpret, the full range of emotions, thoughts, nuance, etc. via pixels).  As for the bickering, I just don't care for it. 

Have a great day everybody!




Lumus -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 6:10:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

I have a real problem with victim mentality and harming of others.  *shocking, I know*.

The thing is that I've worked with a lot of seriously horribly abused people, children mostly.  And I've watched those same children grow up to become strong, independent, fierce adults.  They deal with their crap, move on, and become wonderful members of society.  I worked with a kid who had schizophrenia, was borderline MR, had a serious medical ailment, and who witnessed his uncle's murder.  I had to teach him the difference between a flashback and hearing voices.  And he STILL got his stuff together.  If anyone has had it that bad, and they are under say... 25 or so, then, yes, I'll be supportive and whatnot.  Beyond that, I don't need to be a witness to your nonsense - because it doesn't help!  This does not mean there is no place for constructive help, requests for venting, support, criticism.  No, that's fine.  But people who are stuck in a rut, don't take personal responsibility, and who dump (not vent), well that's just attention seeking nonsense.  No offer of support and kindness will ever help them.  It is only a method of enabling them.  THAT I will not do and don't like seeing on the boards.  Who needs to be on that merry go round?

As for the sexual stuff, it's a kink site, so it is par for the course I think.  There was a thread about cuckolding that was very intensely personal.  But I understood that phenomenon after reading it.  So yes, in depth information can be a wonderful thing.  And the hot stuff.  Sure, why not?

What bothers me the most about the personal stuff is when it becomes 1. bickering and 2. blaming behavior.  There is ALWAYS more than one side to every story, so the blaming is nonsense (particularly since we can't really express, nor can we interpret, the full range of emotions, thoughts, nuance, etc. via pixels).  As for the bickering, I just don't care for it. 

Have a great day everybody!


Just noting that I like your sig, sunshine.  It sums up a lot of My own thoughts as of late.




Daddysredhead -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 7:13:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: girlygurl

Didn't vote

There is such a thing as over disclosure of ones personal life. I have been guilty of it and i'm learning through those mistakes.

Red said some very wise words.... if there's lots of fire in the kitchen, pots boiling over, spoons stirring those bubbling pots, it's best to back the heck out [:)]

You is smart Red! smooch!


Thank you, girly. Mind if I print and frame where you called me smart? I may need to remind people some day that I could string a sentence together at one time in my life. [;)]

Kali... you are sooo gonna get smacked! LOL [sm=slappy.gif]

And thank you, BK. [:)]




RobertCloud -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 8:58:47 PM)

In general I find both sexual essays and apology declarations as being TMI. Most of the time the person that is doing either one is tooting their horn and saying "Look, here I am. Pay attention to me."

Now saying that, there are in rare instances where a "BRIEF" public apology might be appropriate. That is when someone makes a huge mistake in a public forum. Then and only then and in ONLY that forum an apology might be appropriate, but there is no need for everyone to comment on it. Just read it, accept it and move on.

As I said though, those are VERY rare instances. I have only seen it once, but unfortunately everyone that read the apology had to make a comment and the person's honest attempt at doing what they felt was right got belittled and everything became overblown and out of proportion.

So because of the general attitudes of the public, even when an apology might be appropriate, discretion to not post it wuld probably be best for those with animosities will make any apology into a farce.




Aylee -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 9:06:00 PM)

I like you Robert.




Kalista07 -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 9:38:56 PM)

According to the prophecies.

Kali




ShellyD -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/15/2009 11:22:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

I have a real problem with victim mentality and harming of others.  *shocking, I know*.

The thing is that I've worked with a lot of seriously horribly abused people, children mostly.  And I've watched those same children grow up to become strong, independent, fierce adults.  They deal with their crap, move on, and become wonderful members of society.  I worked with a kid who had schizophrenia, was borderline MR, had a serious medical ailment, and who witnessed his uncle's murder.  I had to teach him the difference between a flashback and hearing voices.  And he STILL got his stuff together.  If anyone has had it that bad, and they are under say... 25 or so, then, yes, I'll be supportive and whatnot.  Beyond that, I don't need to be a witness to your nonsense - because it doesn't help!  This does not mean there is no place for constructive help, requests for venting, support, criticism.  No, that's fine.  But people who are stuck in a rut, don't take personal responsibility, and who dump (not vent), well that's just attention seeking nonsense.  No offer of support and kindness will ever help them.  It is only a method of enabling them.  THAT I will not do and don't like seeing on the boards.  Who needs to be on that merry go round?

As for the sexual stuff, it's a kink site, so it is par for the course I think.  There was a thread about cuckolding that was very intensely personal.  But I understood that phenomenon after reading it.  So yes, in depth information can be a wonderful thing.  And the hot stuff.  Sure, why not?

What bothers me the most about the personal stuff is when it becomes 1. bickering and 2. blaming behavior.  There is ALWAYS more than one side to every story, so the blaming is nonsense (particularly since we can't really express, nor can we interpret, the full range of emotions, thoughts, nuance, etc. via pixels).  As for the bickering, I just don't care for it. 

Have a great day everybody!


This is a great post and shows some of my thoughts on the matter. Only to add, I come to these boards for friendship and interaction with like minded people. Some personal stories I find very interesting and informative, others are just wayyy to much information and my thoughts are usually...'the anonymity of the internet makes some people less circumspect that they might be in real life interactions'. There are many behind the scenes stories that I just do not get and sometimes wonder what is behind this or that but mostly I just let it run like water off a ducks back....I hope I never end up in the confrontational interactions I have witnessed here though. That is when I would take Reds' option...turn the computer off




hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/16/2009 9:20:51 AM)

I've been considering whether and what to post since I saw the start of this thread.  It's a subject that - while I'm not exactly Surprised to see it come up - I have mixed feelings concerning.
 
I have, on an irregular basis, used these fora to vent.  A need to vent where we feel safe - amongst friends (and I do count several on these boards as Friends) can be a much needed stress relief at times, where another safe outlet might not exist.  (Not to mention potentially saving us huge amounts of money in psychiatrists' bills LOL)  It's not so much the anonyminity as it is the friendships - even if those aren't in the majority - that give that feeling of safety.  Knowing there's someplace avaialable TO vent can be as much a needed stress reliever as the actual venting - though sometimes the simple knowledge isn't sufficient to do the trick.  I make no apologies for doing so, nor do I make them for who I am, what I've seen, the various choices I've made for better or worse, or how I handle and deal with the various consequences of those choices.  I also make no apologies (ever) for the preferences those choices have led me to, the opinions they've generated, or the small pieces of insight into myself and others that are sometimes generated from that past and the choices it contained.
 
Are they (vents) TMI?  Perhaps.  But then, I've always been of the opinion that if someone doesn't like the direction a thread is going - or it's contents for Whatever reason - they're under no obligation to read it.  Nor is anyone obligated to respond/comment on it, or to feel anything at all whether it be mild curiousity, supportive, derisive, or anything else.
 
Sexcapades I tend to simply ignore.  I consider them pretty much part & parcel of being on a sexuality oriented site - but being a nominally intelligent, definately adult person with no one holding a gun to my head, I'm by no means obligated to read the threads that go in that direction.
 
The same, however, can be said of Any sort of thread started on these fora.  No one is under an obligation to read them, whether they be rants, vents, apologies, sex questions, current events, politics, religion, sexcapade bragging (or moaning the lack thereof!).. whatever.  Doing so means you (generic) have Voluntarily opened yourself to the possibility of TMI, difference of opinion, potential drama, and everything else - whether good or bad - that goes hand in hand with Choosing to read the forums.
 
All that having been said, I consider apologies to fall into one of several different catagories depending on the nature of the apology.  There are things that I note on This site that wouldn't be a consideration on most other sites - like the person's orientation as far as their level of dominance/submission.  And I look at that, specifically around here, because it tells me as much about where that apology falls as what is actually Said.  It can help determine, regardless of how well spoken the poster is, just how Self Driven something was.  When I say "self driven" I don't mean "seeking attention for themselves" - I mean motivated internally, as an act of conscience because they honestly feel like they've done something that their internal moniters require they give an apology for, vs motivated Externally because someone else decreed that it Should be done or Must be done - to salve or boost an often unseen 3rd party's ego.  The second type - done because the poster was told they Had to do so - I consider attention seeking, but not on the part of the Original Poster. 




Sunnyfey -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/16/2009 9:24:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach
I have, on an irregular basis, used these fora to vent.  A need to vent where we feel safe - amongst friends (and I do count several on these boards as Friends) can be a much needed stress relief at times, where another safe outlet might not exist. 



I have never seen your venting as TMI.You don't whine, you don't bitch, you don't constantly ask for others opinions and then disregard said opinions or advice. The only thing you have ever asked for, that I have seen is, prayers and sympathy. and I cant see one person on here who would not be happy to offer you any of those things. You are a good woman, we love you Peachy.




thornhappy -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/16/2009 4:25:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalista07

According to the prophecies.

Kali

Can ya explain that one?  I've seen it in several posts and am scratching my head..




MmeRegineSybille -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/16/2009 5:34:00 PM)

I believe putting One's personal life in such a forum for all to hen peck over is a very stupid thing to do...........why would anyone wish to open themself up to such? It is silliness..........but I think..........if a person wishes to make themself a laughing stock for all and sundry.........it is their right.....Me I can ignore it..........I can ignore almost anything......after all I am a beautiful Domme that delights in taking men's money.........imagine the things I get to ignore!




manxcat -> RE: Personal Info posted (9/16/2009 8:58:12 PM)

Thanks Red ;;-))

To some others:
You don't have to read it. Period. If it not your cup of tea, just pass it by.  Yes this is a public forum, and that means people can post what they want, within the confines of the rules.  No one forces you to read or much worse diss-respond to something you find unpalatable.  While *you* may see no need for public venting, the one doing it obviously does.  We have not been in their shoes, or their childhood, or their relationships.  
No doubt some people would be amazed at what I talk about in class and other public locations.  Including BDSM.  Or is that especially BDSM?[:D]


manxy




GoddessSpitfire -> RE: Personal Info posted (10/14/2009 9:54:01 AM)

I dont like being pulled into the middle of other peoples problems. so I just skip the drama unless its fam or close friends.




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