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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/22/2009 1:33:54 PM   
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That information is available. First hit in a google search as a matter of fact.

O'Keefe visited the office on July 24. Complaint was file don July 24. O'Keefe and his backers lied when the claimed they weren't turned away by any ACORN office.

police complaint:
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909170031

Actually DK, that's the exact same article linked to by rule.

I ask again ... where is any evidence that they were "kicked out"?

Where are the reports of "child prostitution" and such?

Nada.

Firm

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I'd be curious to know when the two visited the Philly office as well, and see how it matches up against the date and time on the report.

That information doesn't seem to be available, either. I wonder why?

I provided a link establishing that that information was available. Why you choose to claim other wise is a mystery.

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/22/2009 4:37:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		The were clear from trhe begining that the Philly office called the police and that he gave him all of his info

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 6:01:28 AM   
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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 6:50:37 AM   
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How did Acorn suddenly, within the last year and a half, become this corrupt, criminal organization when it has been around since 1974?



They didn't.  They've been corrupt since 1974.  And yes, I knew about them then.

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 6:52:12 AM   
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Im going to ask again... dont you need more than just someone saying they want to start a prostitution ring for the police to get involved? even if its child related?


No, you don't.

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 7:36:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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That information is available. First hit in a google search as a matter of fact.

O'Keefe visited the office on July 24. Complaint was file don July 24. O'Keefe and his backers lied when the claimed they weren't turned away by any ACORN office.

police complaint:
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909170031

Actually DK, that's the exact same article linked to by rule.

I ask again ... where is any evidence that they were "kicked out"?

Where are the reports of "child prostitution" and such?

Nada.

Firm

You asked:
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I'd be curious to know when the two visited the Philly office as well, and see how it matches up against the date and time on the report.

That information doesn't seem to be available, either. I wonder why?

I provided a link establishing that that information was available. Why you choose to claim other wise is a mystery.

Seems like anything is a "mystery" to you, if you do not wish to understand, or it goes against your ideological position.

Where is there any proof that they were "kicked out"?

Where is any corroborating evidence that the report was filed on the very day that they were in the office? What time were they in the office (yes, I can read the police report. However, this isn't corroborating evidence)?

Where is the report that says that they were talking about, or trying to do anything illegal (other than possibly "creating a verbal disturbance")? BTW, what exactly is a "verbal disturbance"?

Firm

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 12:42:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		A police report isn't corroborating evidence? So you're claiming the Philly PD conspired with ACORN to defame O'Keefe that's quite a claim. Where's your evidence?

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 5:07:53 PM   
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Seems like anything is a "mystery" to you, if you do not wish to understand, or it goes against your ideological position.
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Not to be objectionable, Firm, but what has whether a crime has been committed and/or reported become a matter of ideology?


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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 6:25:44 PM   
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A police report isn't corroborating evidence? So you're claiming the Philly PD conspired with ACORN to defame O'Keefe that's quite a claim. Where's your evidence?

I don't guess you have much experience with the police, or police reports.

All that's put on them, is what is told them.

So, no, it's not sufficient corroborating evidence, if one thinks the possibility exists that it was given in order to "CYA".

It happens all the time. Ever hear about "filing a false police report"? You think the policeman who writes down the report is charged with a crime?

Who is it that does the "filing"? It's the individual reporting. The police write it down ... and file it.

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 6:38:24 PM   
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Seems like anything is a "mystery" to you, if you do not wish to understand, or it goes against your ideological position.
ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


Not to be objectionable, Firm, but what has whether a crime has been committed and/or reported become a matter of ideology?



I don't why some have selective perception, which is why I gave options, but selective perception or confirmation bias is a well known mental process. A rigid ideological belief system often contributes to this. Which is why I mentioned it.

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 9:11:22 PM   
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Im going to ask again... dont you need more than just someone saying they want to start a prostitution ring for the police to get involved? even if its child related?


No, you don't.



ah so i can just say you want to start one and they can come arrest you... good to know.

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 9:59:24 PM   
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A police report isn't corroborating evidence? So you're claiming the Philly PD conspired with ACORN to defame O'Keefe that's quite a claim. Where's your evidence?

I don't guess you have much experience with the police, or police reports.

All that's put on them, is what is told them.

So, no, it's not sufficient corroborating evidence, if one thinks the possibility exists that it was given in order to "CYA".

It happens all the time. Ever hear about "filing a false police report"? You think the policeman who writes down the report is charged with a crime?

Who is it that does the "filing"? It's the individual reporting. The police write it down ... and file it.

Firm

I'm having trouble believing that the cop wrote down the date of the complaint as the day of the incident if that wasn't actually the date he took the complaint. Which is the question you specifically asked and I answered.

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 10:06:52 PM   
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A police report isn't corroborating evidence? So you're claiming the Philly PD conspired with ACORN to defame O'Keefe that's quite a claim. Where's your evidence?

I don't guess you have much experience with the police, or police reports.

All that's put on them, is what is told them.

So, no, it's not sufficient corroborating evidence, if one thinks the possibility exists that it was given in order to "CYA".

It happens all the time. Ever hear about "filing a false police report"? You think the policeman who writes down the report is charged with a crime?

Who is it that does the "filing"? It's the individual reporting. The police write it down ... and file it.

Firm

I'm having trouble believing that the cop wrote down the date of the complaint as the day of the incident if that wasn't actually the date he took the complaint. Which is the question you specifically asked and I answered.


I don't doubt the police officer who took the report wrote down exactly what he was told.

My question is whether or not the date and time he was given for the events that were reported to him, was the date and time that the two investigative journalist were actually in the Acorn office.

Perhaps it was. Perhaps it wasn't. There is no proof, either way, and it seems that there is already one CYA police report from an Acorn office.

Did you come up with any proof that the two were kicked out, or are we just going to let that issue go?

Firm

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/23/2009 10:32:17 PM   
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Seems O'Keefe's only dispute is how long it took before he got kicked out and the police came.

It was funny watching you walk out on the limb when any sort of cursory web search would have revealed that you were on the garden path.

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/24/2009 1:49:10 AM   
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Police report filed by ACORN exposes false claims by individuals

In recent days, Hannah Giles and James O'Keefe, the conservative filmmakers who made the widely circulated ACORN videos, as well as Andrew Breitbart and Mike Flynn, who have been promoting the videos for BigGovernment.com, have claimed that the filmmakers were never rebuffed by any of the ACORN offices they visited in their attempts to get ACORN to assist them in improper activities.

However, in a newly released video, ACORN Housing Corp.'s Katherine Conway Russell directly rebuts those claims, citing a police report ACORN filed as evidence that she asked the filmmakers to leave the ACORN office in Philadelphia and called the police after the filmmakers asked suspicious questions.



Doesn't matter. It never happened, and even if you sit people down and force them to watch direct first-hand testimony that it did happen, you're still wrong and a liar.

It's just like Obama's birth certificate. He's a Kenyan, and therefore any document that purports to be his birth certificate from Hawaii is a forgery. If it carbon dates to the 1960's, that just means it's a good forgery. If the original doctor and the witnessing agent both show up to declare under oath that they did in fact sign it, and that it's real, that just means they're in on the conspiracy.

WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/24/2009 2:08:21 AM   
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once more ....

mom was an american

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RE: ACORN Worker in Video Reported Duo to Police - 9/24/2009 2:12:53 AM   
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not that again....

once more ....

mom was an american


NO SHE WASN'T WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?

They made up her "mom"; she's actually one of them reptilian shape-shifters in disguise. Or maybe multiple reptilian shape-shifters time-sharing the disguise; I'll have to get back to you on that. Lemme ask David Icke.


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