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RE: What do you deserve? - 9/28/2009 8:47:25 PM   
leadership527


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Status: offline 		I think agirl said it best for me. Some things I deserve, other things I don't, and there are a wide variety of things that it doesn't make any sense to talk about deserving or not.

I disagree with the OP's master in that the very things he cited as things she deserved, I would've said are in my list of "doesn't apply". The universe never made any bargains with me. I've got no contract, verbal or otherwise to waive in front of god and demand "happiness" or my money back.

Insofar as happily ever after, I lucked out meeting Carol. There's no way I could've possibly have been good enough to deserve having met her. Easily that had to be 4, maybe 5 lifetimes full of good karma spent in the meeting of her. I am proud, however, on how I capitalized on the gift that god threw my way. In that way, at least, I deserve some of the happiness I have.

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RE: What do you deserve? - 9/29/2009 7:00:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bluefireeyez

Thank your DesFIP, that is an interesting way to look at it. Perhaps that is exactly what He was trying to do and i completely missed it lol. It is true that He believes most people in my life are not healthy for me (a pretty accurate belief). So He is trying to build me up more than the others are trying to tear me down.

Haha...sometimes we need a nice backhand! However...that would be counter productive if you like it.

i've seen and appreciate some very interesting and different views!


I'm inclined to agree with DesFip.

When my mum or dad, owner, children or grandchildren say I *deserve* something , I don't sit and have a philosophical debate about whether I do or not.......lol.  It's just a heart-warming and super feeling.

These are the times to just say * Aww , thanks so much* and appreciate that you, and your endeavours elicit that feeling in others.

Sometimes it's easier to see it in reverse. When you've felt that way about someone else, it's easier to accept it without a lot of fuss.

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RE: What do you deserve? - 9/29/2009 8:01:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I truly believe that we all deserve the right to pursue love, happiness and fulfillment, and to have our basic needs met.  I think along the way, people can do things so heinous that some of those are taken away, but that is the exception not the rule.

I believe that love can be neither deserved nor earned.  It is simply a gift.  You can't force it, you can't rack up enough brownie points and you certainly don't get it automatically.  Some people take it for granted and other have experienced it so little that it is nearly impossible to believe/accept once you have it.

I cannot imagine believing that I earned everything given to me in this life. If everything were on a kind of earn and deserve sort of scale, how on earth do you justify rape, child abuse and any of the other horrid things that happen to people. Did they somehow deserve those things? *shudder*  How do you take the joyful random happenstances that life gives us as merely having earned them?  I know I neither was entitled to nor did I earn the love of my husband or companion.  It simply happened.
And for that I am truly grateful.

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RE: What do you deserve? - 10/3/2009 3:46:10 PM   
CaringandReal


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Status: offline 		Well there sure are plenty of people in this world who get things that they don't deserve! So why shouldn't a submissive deserve things that she doesn't think she deserves? :)

My former master and I used to have this discussion a lot. Your thread brought back some interesting memories for me. He was of the same opinion as your master, and I would take your stance in our talks. He'd pretty much end the talks by saying he was the master so his opinion trumped mine, and lol, I couldn't exactly argue with that, but he also used a metaphor that helped me. He talked about his own regard for me and trust and feeling that I deserved things as money in the bank. He said that initially, before he knew me very well there wasn't a great deal of that in the bank, although he was certain he'd made a sound investment. As the years passed though, the bank account became fuller and fuller, and when I'd talk about not deserving his current level of trust and unconditional love, he'd mention that fat bank account. If I still insisted, he'd start to embarass me by listing all the things I had done over the years to build up the bank balance. That also worked very well to get me to agree with him, just so he'd stop talking about all of that! It can be extremely uncomfortable to be praised, can't it? :/

< Message edited by CaringandReal -- 10/3/2009 3:47:21 PM >

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RE: What do you deserve? - 10/5/2009 7:12:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		You deserve a fair chance to earn what you need and want.

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RE: What do you deserve? - 10/5/2009 4:25:25 PM   
bluefireeyez


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Status: offline 		That is a very interesting analogy! Hopefully my Master won't get any ideas like that...haha.

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RE: What do you deserve? - 10/5/2009 4:30:22 PM   
NormalOutside


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Status: offline 		fast reply.

This is one of those threads where the OP is basically asking what everyone elses' definitions of certain words are. What is "deserve"? Everybody has their own definition.

I'm going to go with "nothing". Nobody owes me anything. Neither does society, or the world, or the universe. Neither do I. I'm owed nothing, and I deserve nothing.

BTW bluefireeyez, your profile says you're seeking dominant men, both in the "looking for" section and in the text you wrote. That might have something to do with the messages you get from dominant men that you aren't interested in. :p

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RE: What do you deserve? - 10/5/2009 4:32:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, yes.

"No one is owed anything. No one is owed good parents. No one is owed a chance at life. No one is owed a decent living, a chance to dream, a chance to be loved. We are God's playthings."

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RE: What do you deserve? - 10/5/2009 4:42:29 PM   
bluefireeyez


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ORIGINAL: NormalOutside

fast reply.


BTW bluefireeyez, your profile says you're seeking dominant men, both in the "looking for" section and in the text you wrote. That might have something to do with the messages you get from dominant men that you aren't interested in. :p


Haha, good call...though i feel like i'd be getting messages anyway. Which is fine, as long as they don't want to be my Dom...friends are always a good thing!

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RE: What do you deserve? - 10/5/2009 6:04:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually let's hope he does get the same ideas as Caring's ex. Because the first step in not allowing anyone else to mistreat you is to not mistreat yourself. And when you talk badly about yourself, you are mistreating yourself.

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