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Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 1:29:54 PM

RiotGirl

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This is abit of an amusing post and also abit of a vent.

<sigh> Wicked wicked body parts. i have always had control of my body parts and the switch that turns them off and on. Well okay thats a partial lie as i havent always. Point being, i've always had more control then anyone ELSE. Literally. Generally i'm stuck in "off" and generally turning the switch on isnt easy.

Say for example Master threw me into a partial orgy with some good friends of ours. i say "threw" as i was abit reluctant. And no matter how many ppl touched me, or went down on me. i stayed in the off mode. Usually is the case anyhoo. We've had others play with us and i've stayed in the off mode. i've got those that would LIKE to play with me and i'm like "sure.... just dont expect me to get into it" Cos well, my switch is off and i dont really care about it being turned on.

(here's the rant part)

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOO Not with the oh highly kingly Domly Masterly Man i live with. Bah. i said OFF. And my body betrayed me. No matter how hard i fought for control and boy did i fight for it, it was easy as pie for him to turn me on. It wasnt even an effort for him. ARRRRRRRGGGGGG. Traitorous body! i SAID OFF. And my body wouldnt listen to ME. It listened to HIM. How dare right? i mean how ungodly dare it not listen to me? Me with all the control in the WORLD when it comes to that on off switch. And i was betrayed by my OWN body!

So awhile lateri asked him HOW that was possible. How was it possible for my body to betray me for him? i mean really

And of course he came up with a High Domly Kingly answer of "because your body does what i want it to do" and "because i own your body"

Which of course wasnt a good enough answer for me. i mean ownage isnt literal. Its like metaphorical. He doesnt LITERALLY own me nor can he literally own my body. (which of course he wouldntt answer when i popped up with THAT response)

So yes there is a question. Anyone else have a body that betrayed them? Anyone got an answer for me?

Yes i'm highly peeved at myself... and yeah the title of this post crackes me up.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 1:40:49 PM

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On the other side of the coin, Just as there are men who, by their presence can have sub/slaves want to kneel, and just as there will always be a man who is most likely to turn a Domme's knees weak and have her almost ready to kneel or even submit, there are men who can without doing anything bring a woman (lifestyle or vanilla) to a point where a simple touch of a hand on an arm, a look or the sound of his voice will freeze the switch to ON. Some of us who do not appear to have these abilities, have learned how to do this. (It's Sacred Men's Magick so shhhhhhhhhhhh). It is onething for me to tell you honestly that if I want a specific woman, I will have her and she will come to me willingly. However the question is, is she worth the effort? In your case you obviously are (you delicious delectable desirious creature you) and you Master has this ability to do this to you at his pleasure.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 1:41:35 PM

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RG, I love this post, and the title, I laughed hard!!!

My response however is going to bring the post in a completely different direction. Sorry.

Anyway...

I am a survivor of sexual abuse. One of the hardest things for me to deal with and accept. One of the main reasons that I (and many other survivors) carry extreme amounts of guilt relating to the abuse, is that our bodies betrayed us. My body betrayed me, almost every time. No matter how much I wanted him to leave me alone, no matter how repulsed I was, no matter how much I cried, my body responded to stimulus.

Our bodies are designed to respond to stimulus and no amount of thought can completely stop that. Your Master did to your body what your mind couldn't control. Biological response to stimulus. That's all it was. It has nothing to do with ownership of your body although I bet it's fun for him to see your frustration when he says that.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 1:42:34 PM

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I am confused, Why would you want your body shut off or unfeeling with your Master in the 1st place.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 1:50:10 PM

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You can have physical, body reactions, emotional/mental reactions, and then (the ones I think are best) are those which combine the physical and the mental.

Your body reacts because its aroused. Your partner (if they are good partners) know what turns them on because they've paid attention.

The mind and body don't always agree unless you've done serious exercise to get one under the control of the other.

Just as an aside it is possible for you body to react even if your mind and emotions are completely opposed. Thus a man or woman can have a physical response to a rape or an assult but that is not the same as consenting to it or enjoying it. I've wondered if maybe this is actually a survival technique -- your body gets the signs of being turned on in the hopes of being harmed less. I don't know.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 1:53:26 PM

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Not real comment aside from

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 1:54:17 PM

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That good ole chemistry- literally. You've attuned yourself to his body- his touch, his smell, his look, everything in him fires sensors off in you that lead to the "turned on" chemicals and body reactions.

Plus you probably WANT to on some level anyway.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 1:56:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

I am confused, Why would you want your body shut off or unfeeling with your Master in the 1st place.

Cuz life in an Ms relationship isn't all peaches n cream and sometimes you aren't sighing and swooning just to be in his grand presence- sometimes you're pissed and confused and hurt and want something else completely.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 2:19:15 PM

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quote:

In your case you obviously are (you delicious delectable desirious creature you

as much as i hate compliments.. thanks. So he's got some majik up his sleeve eh? Arrrrrrg.. i dont think i can combat majik. Maybe you should let me in on the secret eh?

quote:

RG, I love this post, and the title, I laughed hard!!!

LOL i laugh every time i think of it!

quote:

Anyway...

After trying to respond to you 3 times now. i am going to simply say its not the case for everyone. Ppl get drawn by different things and after affects are different for everyone. i myself shut down.

Yeah i love the title too.. cracks me up.. heh Okay.. back to the regular schedule programming... of the on and off switch.

quote:

I am confused, Why would you want your body shut off or unfeeling with your Master in the 1st place.

cos i'm a moody brat .. but the answer is actually pretty complicated. So we'll side step that eh?

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 2:21:33 PM

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Bear,

You walking around inside my head again? Yes, I hate, hate, hate to admit it...but there have been times...when this Dommes switch could be turned to ON and the off knob broken off.

In truth I am pretty much permanatly in the ON position...but there was a man or two who crossed my path that had a remote control without the benefit of a remote control.

There is even a special sweet boy who has disobeyed and remained the sender of orgasam current after I had stated ENOUGH...lucky for him I barely had the strength to beat him for it...<grin>.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 2:33:50 PM

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quote:

I've wondered if maybe this is actually a survival technique

No my survival technique is different actually.

Okay i GOTS to respond to you LA.. you are prolly so right. So absolutely right. On both posts. LOL i am prolly attuned to him. Cos i mean about 6 or 7 ot 8, heck i dont know when, but some time ago his buddy (and his buddies wife) went down on me and i just sorta sat/laid.. eh.. there and wondered when he'd get tired and stop. LOL She lucky went onto something else pretty quickly.

Thanks LA i think you answered it. He's actually been able to flip the switch for ages and knows that if it comes to playing with another person that he'd have to "get me ready" if he wanted my body involved. i literally get stuck in OFF. And i literally dont "feel" as anyone else here "feels" i used to disassociate alot in the past i suppose.

thanks tho, for the answer.. and now i'm gonna wander off and wonder how that chemistry attuned itself to him.. and why it hasnt done it for anyone else i've ever encountered.. hmmmmmm (got an answer for that LA?)

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 2:36:47 PM

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quote:

Cuz life in an Ms relationship isn't all peaches n cream and sometimes you aren't sighing and swooning just to be in his grand presence- sometimes you're pissed and confused and hurt and want something else completely.

<grins> sometimes you want to knock him a good one

<hrump> wanders off and bickers to herself about peaches and cream and the things you sometimes want to do...

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 3:01:23 PM

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OMG rolling on the floor--now you have that in your google results! LMAO

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 3:21:49 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cloudz

Bear,

You walking around inside my head again?

~ Leans over and whispers softly ~ Only as far as you allow me to sweet Lady.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 4:05:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

quote:

I've wondered if maybe this is actually a survival technique

No my survival technique is different actually.

I didn't mean for you -- this was related to my comments about bodies reacting even in rape or assault situations which you were not in. Right? My train of thoughts started with your post and then continued to other instances I know of where the mind/body connection is not 100%.

< Message edited by thetammyjo -- 3/1/2006 4:06:33 PM >

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 4:16:45 PM

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quote:

Cuz life in an Ms relationship isn't all peaches n cream

It's Not? well hot damn
thanks for that info.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 4:21:48 PM

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Bear,

<soft moan> Methinks it is better for this Domme's ego that you are too far to follow these primal feelings.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 4:47:09 PM

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Cloudz,

Sweet lady, << soft whisper like a gentle spring breeze>> have you checked you mail yet??? ~ gentle smile ~

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 5:27:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RiotGirl
And i literally dont "feel" as anyone else here "feels" i used to disassociate alot in the past i suppose.

I completely understand. While I did not disassociate to the extremes and periods that you did, when I was a slut for the wrong reasons, I certainly kept my body turned off. Partly as a way to stay in control (I used orgasm as some irrational measure of being in control and since I had no idea how to orgasm and the men I was with really didn't care about my orgasm to the point of working on it with me, it worked out nicely), and partly because if I opened myself to them and being turned on by them, I'd had needed to face others things about myself I wasn' willing to face.

Eventually of course, I was forced to face them and am happy to say that I'm a slut for all the right reasons. But I completely know what you mean about being in a pile of people all doing the normal things to get you hot and you're just sorry you're missing the tv show on right now.

quote:

thanks tho, for the answer.. and now i'm gonna wander off and wonder how that chemistry attuned itself to him.. and why it hasnt done it for anyone else i've ever encountered.. hmmmmmm (got an answer for that LA?)

Nope, I don't know enough about him. A wild guess? He's given you more sincere and direct attention than anyone before.

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RE: Traitorous Vagina! - 3/1/2006 6:10:34 PM

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RRRRRRRGGGGGG. Traitorous body! i SAID OFF. And my body wouldnt listen to ME.

I must admit this has never happened to me. If my head is not there my body can not do much. Now, I have been startled before. There have been times when I thought it would be mundane and I wouldn't really be able to get into it, and was pleasantly surprised with a very good time.

However, one element of many mastabatory fantasies is my body betraying me. Mmmm.

Actually, thinking more, my body has betrayed me. Just not in a sexual sense. When I had my wisdom teeth pulled, I remember being very pissed off because the dentist injected me with that stuff they use to knock you out before I said I was ready. I had specifically told him to warn me. I need to mentally prepare myself for things like unconsciousness. He did not respect my wishes.

I decided not to fall asleep. Sure, I felt the sedatives swirling around my veins, pressuring me to give in, but I was up for the challenge. Nobody tells me what to do. Not man, not woman, not coercively relaxing anesthesia.

"No!" I screamed at the needle. "You can't take ME! I am strong! I am powerful!"

The dentist raised his eyebrow, but he was intimidated. I could smell his fear. He wasn't going to impose his masochistic, I-have-a-Phd.-so-I-don't-have-to-respect-the-wishes-of-lowly-patients actions on me. No, siree.

"NOOOooooo!" I hollered. "Nn...umm....."

I don't recall much after that.

quote:

But I completely know what you mean about being in a pile of people all doing the normal things to get you hot and you're just sorry you're missing the tv show on right now.

Bwwwhahahaha. Me too. Or the feeling of half heartedly giving head, just to be polite.

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