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RE: Scene and Not Heard - 9/26/2009 10:41:27 AM   
DarkSteven


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ORIGINAL: MMagic
should said Dominate again be angry because the girl/boy he's chosen to collar does not HAVE the same perceptions.  Should be something to be punished for?  I know you'll say, if it was discussed before hand. Let's say it was not and the sub does...what they do.  Should the Dominate automatically view it as affront to their nature? 



If a Dominant collared someone without any idea of who does what, I would say that both Dom and sub were very rushed and stupid.

Iy is not an affront to the Dom's nature as much as a reminder that they acted hastily without thinking.

A Dom who punished for this... I would think that the Dom would be more culpable for the situation than the sub.  However, it could be a means of moving the sub more quickly to the place he wants.

The whole situation bothers me a lot because a Dom who did this would be removing some of his sub's capability to act on his/her own.  The situation as described shows that the collaring was done without thought, the relationship is far from stable, and yet the Dom is impairing the sub's ability to survive if the relationship dissolved  He's not keeping his/her best interests in mind.


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RE: Scene and Not Heard - 9/26/2009 11:03:04 AM   
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If I cannot take care of me, how could I possibly take care of you?


Now that deserves an Amen, lol



Thank you.

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RE: Scene and Not Heard - 9/26/2009 1:12:26 PM   
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Men like to feel useful. If a woman can do everything for herself then they start to feel their manhood is in jeopardy.


This is very much my experience. I have a strong personality and am very independent. And I am highly amused by how delighted men are when I ask for help opening a jar. I also have a thing about men being in charge of fire. Grilling is man's work.

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RE: Scene and Not Heard - 9/27/2009 5:43:36 AM   
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People like to feel wanted. So if you say "There isn't anything you can ever do for me, because I can do it all myself" they will feel as if there is no space in your life for them. Even if you can diagnose and repair the weird noise the car is making, and you can build your own home, you should have some space that would be improved by the presence of a partner even if it's just a shoulder to cry on during teary movies.

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RE: Scene and Not Heard - 9/27/2009 6:48:01 AM   
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 I get that perceptions are different, but I'll ask something else.  BECAUSE perceptions are different, should said Dominate again be angry because the girl/boy he's chosen to collar does not HAVE the same perceptions.  Should be something to be punished for? 


There are some folks, dominant or submissive, who believe that everyone should meet their own criteria for what they believe a submissive or dominant does or doesn’t do; should or shouldn’t do. I have no idea why they get angry when someone doesn’t fit their definition.  Perhaps they are easily frustrated in their search?  If they take offense that is their problem, not yours!

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RE: Scene and Not Heard - 9/27/2009 11:58:24 AM   
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Just because I *can* do it all myself does not mean that I  *will*  or should *have* to, nor does it mean that I wish to.  I can have an orgasm without ever being touched, that doesn't mean that should be how it always is.

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RE: Scene and Not Heard - 9/27/2009 12:10:19 PM   
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I dunno MMagic.. I read back at least to 9/17 and didn't find much offensive... a bit of general "fuck you world" shit... but that seems to be common among subs for reasons I don't quite understand. I'd need to know what, exactly, they felt was offensive since it didn't offend me.

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