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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Keep up, DomKen...I am doing neither.  I was responding to a post that asked for one incident of besmirching---to charge falsely OR (please note the OR) with malicious intent; to attack and defame someone---Bush that rose to the level of accusing Clinton of being a murderer.  Now, the arguments have gone back and forth over whether Bush lied or those beneath him did and nothing has ever been settled.  So the charge may or may not be false but it was damn sure made with malicious intent.

So saying something that there is strong evidence for with 'malicious intent' rises to the same level as lies about Clinton being a murderer and a drug dealer? I think not.

Difficult to answer further without the context.  I've been watching politics fairly close for the last 30 yrs and yet I don't recall charges being made against Clinton as a murderer and drug dealer.  Could you refresh my memory, please?

As to your question, there is nothing stated in the dictionary as to what level of "evidence" must be brought forth to make it besmirching.  All that the dictionary states is that it must be done with malicious intent OR done falsely.  Now, if Clinton was besmirched and there is no evidence at all, then he was done so falsely.  If Bush was besmirched and there is even the slightest evidence but not enough to prove a case in a court of law (which has yet to be done, by the way.  He hasn't even been charged there), then there was malicious intent behind it.  Either way, it is besmirchment.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I'm really not sure your condemnation of the entire Republican party is at all fair Mars.

Heh, for one thing, Mars was talking as if he wasn't aware that Glenn Beck isn't a Republican.

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ORIGINAL: tiedtothebed

So far in nine months Obama has added more to the national debt than all the last 200 years of the republic. Yes, that's right. In mere months Obama doubled our national debt. Now the government will not even be able to tax enough to pay the interest on the debt, much less pay anything on principal. He has not only bankrupted us but is proposing even far more massive spending programs which we cannot afford and will lead us into either default on government debt or massive printing of money to pay the interest and - you guessed it, runaway inflation. He needs to be removed any way possible. He could destroy our nation long before the next election can be held. He has proven to be the most dangerous person to ever inhabit the Oval Office. 

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For each term in office, the President is responsible for four fiscal year budgets starting Oct. 1 of the year they take office and ending Sept. 30, eight months after they leave office. Table 7.1 gives the gross federal debt as a % of GDP at the end of every fiscal year since 1940. Each President's federal debt contribution was computed by simply subtracting the value at the start of his first FY from the value at the end of his last FY.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

You know, Lucy, Obama's not even a twue American  .

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I'm as British as I am Frog,

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Reedit. 

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Reedit. 

The Bill?

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

We are so evolved, because we have the right to spout pure shite, but Obama wants to confiscate your guns. Obama is just like Hitler: watch out for Obama.

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

oh, and if Obama is actually a Moozlem,

does that mean Irish JFK was a ...  Boozelem?

(rimshot!)