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Amaros -> RE: what is TPE 24/7? (10/5/2009 12:24:17 PM)
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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero
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ORIGINAL: Amaros
I really don't know what the alternative is, and you aren't saying, so I can only guess - you are apparently satisfied, and I'm taking you at our word - in some sense, it isn't a lot different than being trampled and gored by a bull - Rodeo cowboys do that all the time, and they apparently get something out of that, but the difference here is that if a bull is really dangerous, nobody has any qualms about shooting it in the head.
When it comes to interpersonal relationships, "dangerous" ends and begins with the assessment of the people in the relationship, not outside eyes. Period.
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ORIGINAL: Amaros
The analog here, is that there isn't a jurisdiction in the country that would hesitate to classify this as abuse, and send your SO straight up the river - the risk you're running here is ending up a ward of the state, at minimum - and things being what they are, probably back out on the street without any protection at all.
Argument from adverse consequences.
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ORIGINAL: Amaros
Again, I'd really hate for a newbie to read this and think that's what D/s is about - it isn't, it's formally indefensible.
Appeal to the emotions of the naive. I'd really hate for a newbie to WIITWD to also be a newbie to a sensible thinking skillset to where they understand the spectrum of things that are done in this subset of people. I'd dislike it even more if a predisposition to a myopic view of what is and isn't acceptable or worthwhile had them putting negative taints on other people's lives as if what they do themselves couldn't just as easily be deemed incompetent by another audience.
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ORIGINAL: Amaros
There are people into some gonzo shit, amputation and the like, and I don't judge them either, other than it's crossing the boundaries of legality in a way that threatens to bring the whole thing down if it happened to catch on - the legal envelope that we inhabit here is based on the concept of SSC, otherwise, it's no step at all to call all of it abuse, and start issuing warrants.
If you want to espouse some altruistic responsibility to every other social minority member to where you feel you should curb a part of yourself because the greater public might make the entire community more suspect, help yourself. The irony, of course, is that you are asking for one type of oppression in order to avoid another, presumably because the choice for willing self-oppression seems more virtuous.
Personally, no thank you.
Wrong answer - we are both technically breaking the law by not reporting it, this isn't a few welts.
Your Nihilistic attitude is really cool and shit, but in fact there is a real world, and this is just a subset of it, and in that world, external assessments are made all the time, with real people with real guns and real cages that enforce it.
Informally, this isn't BDSM at all, and she's on the wrong website, being well on her way to becoming a statistic in my opinion, which I feel free to offer; that's what happens when you cross that line, it suddenly does become everybody's business.
After he eventually kills her, he'll be looking for another, for instance, might be your sister.
Promoting it as BDSM does me and everyone else here a disservice particularly those with little experience to hear her spout that "real" slaves allow themselves to be abused, and everybody else is just faking. Bullshit.
And I have no problem questioning a "relationship" based on a full grown adult male beating the fuck out of a girl who looks like she might weigh 100 pounds soaking wet.
That's putting it all tactfully.
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