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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 8:02:26 PM   
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Anyone running against her will be.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 8:07:06 PM   
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Sarah Palins new book is already a best seller on the NYT and Amazon lists,and it isn't even in print yet. Do not count her out. The left is scared to death just thinking about her.


We are? Shit. I didn't realize. Thanks for letting me know!

Now excuse me while I pull the sheets up over my head...


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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 8:13:22 PM   
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Ron Paul is about the only person that is either a Rep or a Dem that I would vote for. Otherwise it will be Libertarian for me again.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 8:45:51 PM   
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I'm not sure where DomKen figures he is qualified to announce "the best of the bunch" for Republican contenders anyway.

Ok then. Who is really electable and someone you honestly think would be even an adequate POTUS?

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 8:51:25 PM   
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Sarah Palins new book is already a best seller on the NYT and Amazon lists,and it isn't even in print yet. Do not count her out. The left is scared to death just thinking about her.


For COMPLETELY different reasons than the Right thinks we are, though.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 9:23:43 PM   
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Everybody with an IQ above room temperature is scared to death just thinking about her.

When I see people willing to insult and dismiss as idiots anyone whose views about a candidate differ from their own, I am always interested to know who they support -- on the theory that birds of a feather flock together.

K.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 9:27:57 PM   
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Here's something I'd really like answered about Sarah Palin, by haters and supporters:

What do you actually believe her political positions to be, and where did you get the idea that these were her positions, and why do you think these are good/bad positions for her to hold?

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 9:37:39 PM   
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I want a Sanity vs Spinner Peoples' President run.
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because here, we can TALK TO YOU BOTH.

and you HAVE to answer.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 9:39:10 PM   
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"What do you actually believe her political positions to be, and where did you get the idea that these were her positions, and why do you think these are good/bad positions for her to hold?"

if you'd ever dated a clinically diagnosed Borderline Character Disordered woman than you would not have to ask that.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 9:51:05 PM   
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"What do you actually believe her political positions to be, and where did you get the idea that these were her positions, and why do you think these are good/bad positions for her to hold?"

if you'd ever dated a clinically diagnosed Borderline Character Disordered woman than you would not have to ask that.


Can you clarify what you mean by that? Because I think what you're getting at is important.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:03:30 PM   
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I'm not sure where DomKen figures he is qualified to announce "the best of the bunch" for Republican contenders anyway.

Ok then. Who is really electable and someone you honestly think would be even an adequate POTUS?




Who would have called a junior Senator from Illinios, with zero executive experience, qualified or electable three years ago, Ken?  I pay attention to this stuff, and was thinking maybe he could be veep.  If nothing else, President Obama has significantly lowered the bar for who can be considered a legitimate contender.

The potential candidates I like weren't even on your list.  Not the ones you have heard of but dismissed or didn't consider including, and how would you list the ones you might never have heard of at all?  The right individual will fit the circumstances, and those have not emerged yet, either.

And even if I knew exactly who it was going to be, or could dish the full list of the contenders for the primary, why would I put them in your crosshairs? 

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:03:43 PM   
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how much trouble are you, ethically, willing to let ME take for answering that?  IN the way you have requested?

YOU don't suffer anything - e.g. extant popularity on this board - by having ME say something "inflammatory".

I however, might.

How much shit are you happy with MYSELFcopping, before I answer it?

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:16:55 PM   
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how much trouble are you, ethically, willing to let ME take for answering that?  IN the way you have requested?

YOU don't suffer anything - e.g. extant popularity on this board - by having ME say something "inflammatory".

I however, might.

How much shit are you happy with MYSELFcopping, before I answer it?


Okay, that's fair. In that spirit, let me throw out a question to the Paris-supporters:

What makes you believe that she holds values in accordance with your own, and what makes you believe that she is mentally competent to act on those values on your behalf, and on a global scale?

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:18:47 PM   
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if you'd ever dated a clinically diagnosed Borderline Character Disordered woman than you would not have to ask that.

FYI: The term "character disorder" is deprecated. NIMH returns no matches for "borderline character disorder" or even for "character disorders" generally.

Borderline Personality Disorder

People with BPD often have highly unstable patterns of social relationships. While they can develop intense but stormy attachments, their attitudes towards family, friends, and loved ones may suddenly shift from idealization (great admiration and love) to devaluation (intense anger and dislike). Thus, they may form an immediate attachment and idealize the other person, but when a slight separation or conflict occurs, they switch unexpectedly to the other extreme and angrily accuse the other person of not caring for them at all. Even with family members, individuals with BPD are highly sensitive to rejection, reacting with anger and distress to such mild separations as a vacation, a business trip, or a sudden change in plans. These fears of abandonment seem to be related to difficulties feeling emotionally connected to important persons when they are physically absent, leaving the individual with BPD feeling lost and perhaps worthless. Suicide threats and attempts may occur along with anger at perceived abandonment and disappointments.

K.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:21:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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if you'd ever dated a clinically diagnosed Borderline Character Disordered woman than you would not have to ask that.

FYI: The term "character disorder" is deprecated. NIMH returns no matches for "borderline character disorder" or even for "character disorders" generally.

Borderline Personality Disorder

People with BPD often have highly unstable patterns of social relationships. While they can develop intense but stormy attachments, their attitudes towards family, friends, and loved ones may suddenly shift from idealization (great admiration and love) to devaluation (intense anger and dislike). Thus, they may form an immediate attachment and idealize the other person, but when a slight separation or conflict occurs, they switch unexpectedly to the other extreme and angrily accuse the other person of not caring for them at all. Even with family members, individuals with BPD are highly sensitive to rejection, reacting with anger and distress to such mild separations as a vacation, a business trip, or a sudden change in plans. These fears of abandonment seem to be related to difficulties feeling emotionally connected to important persons when they are physically absent, leaving the individual with BPD feeling lost and perhaps worthless. Suicide threats and attempts may occur along with anger at perceived abandonment and disappointments.

K.



Also, if I'm going to stick my own neck out here, I'd note that Paris Hilton doesn't display Borderline tendencies nearly as often as I see her display Narcissistic tendencies. But that just might be hyper-sensitivity to the Narcissistic spectrum on my part.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:24:56 PM   
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Paris Hilton doesn't display Borderline tendencies nearly as often as I see her display Narcissistic tendencies. But that just might be hyper-sensitivity to the Narcissistic spectrum on my part.

Trying to give HPH some food for thought there? Heh.

In any case, returning to the original line of inquiry, I don't see the application of BPD to Sarah Palin.

K.










< Message edited by Kirata -- 10/1/2009 10:29:07 PM >

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:28:06 PM   
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Kirata, I go off the various DSM's (including the DSM V), and I mean HARD COPIES of which, the kind used by EIP programs AND psych eval teams for parole boards using them in conjuntion with MMPI's looking for Spike 4's to indicate sociopathy.

"Borderline" is (if you speak to anyone who has had to treat them, or recovering Borderlines themselves) just "acceptable code" for "female sociopath".  That's basically it.

Male sociopath trashes your car for showing himup when he illegally tries to shark you in a pool hall, or reveal him to be rigging votes in your local electorate,

borderline trashes your car because you're married, she conned you into fucking her ass in a public restroom 20 minutes after she laid eyes on you and decided you can help her get over her "abandonment" issues, and 48 hours later because you DON'T leave your wife, you are Satan, and now have smashed windscreens with boiled bunnies and cow faeces in the front seat.

which Borderlines in hard lock up in women's prison often cop to doing (or seimilar illegal activities) when they ar forced to discuss the reasons they got locked up.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:29:41 PM   
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no food for thought.  I hate Paris because she is LAZY.

Borderlines are not lazy.  they are DRIVEN. As in "driven behaviours" outlined in diagnostic manuals.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:30:05 PM   
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Giving HPH some food for thought there?


Among others, sure. The thing is, we don't know how people's minds work. And sometimes such disorders aren't necessarily the worst thing that can happen. I mean, I'd call Kennedy (take your pick) rife with personality disorders, and yet I'd far rather have a narcissistic, near-sociopathic Kennedy in office than a sane Nixon.

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RE: Is is ABO? - 10/1/2009 10:32:18 PM   
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now, the point IS:

If either of you gentlemen have been INVOLVED with a Borderline...  I mean at risk of one slitting your throat...

knowing how they DON'T SEE "consequences for revanche" the way "we do"...  (or saner women you've both enjoyed)

when you watch footage of Palin, are you telling me you DON'T see something akin to a ghost, a reprise, a reminder, and aftertaste, an ECHO?

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