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Saratov -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 7:13:26 PM)

Umm, does that mean you're a motor-mouth? [8|] And admitting it? [:D]




sissymaidlola -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 8:13:05 PM)

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However, i think there's a consensus that the vast majority of CM users never come here. How could participation be increased?

Hmm, not so sure that sissy would want to see participation on the boards just for participation's sake. That would NOT be a good thing at all. [:(] IsHO, the quality of posters, and the posts they make, is what is paramount, NOT the quantity of posts! Even though only 5% of the CollarMe membership may currently post here (your statistic, but it sounds about right based on sissy's participatiion on other message boards), probably only 5% of that 5% that already post actually have something interesting to say and also know how to present it, and thus are worth the time and effort invested in the reading. More is NOT always better. Cue Bruce Springsteen: 57 channels and nothing on ...

Much of what is already posted on the CMMB is recycled discussion and absolute illiterate piffle and thus a waste of time and bandwidth, which makes stumbling across the actual good stuff all the more difficult. The ideal for sissy would be a message board where almost every post one read gave you an epiphany, an orgasm, or made you snort your coffee! [:)] There are some posters on other boards than can even deliver all three experiences in a single post! [:D] Unfortunately, on the CMMB, you have to plough through literarally hundreds of posts before you stumble on one that might only come close to delivering such a payload. So why do you advocate for even more dross on the CMMB? As cloudboy stated, "less is better"!

Personally, I would advocate for much less mediocrity on the CMMB, NOT more. sissy Would love to see a new forum here called "lola's Desert Island Dicks" where only sissy and his favorite dozen CMMB posters were allowed to post. That would then be the only forum sissy would need to visit here. And that forum would really, really sizzle ... so much so that sissy would have to change his moniker to "sizzle maid lola"! [:)] sissy Is quite sure that everyone reading this post also fantasizes about a forum with their own name on where only they and their favorite dozen or so posters were allowed to post. If so, then that completely vindicates sissy's point, doesn't it? That would mean that you, too, only want quality rather than quantity in your life. OMG, how un-American of you?! Don't you know that bigger is ALWAYS better and more is ALWAYS best ?! [;)] Sheesh, shame on you ... get with the goddam program, won't ya! [sm=rolleyes.gif]

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New people sometimes run afoul of the mods, or other members, who are familiar with board protocol. Most people i have tried to "bring over" have given up in frustration.

Maybe, just maybe, the problem wasn't with the new people that "ran afoul of the mods" or other "sacred cow" members, but lies instead with the current standard of CollarMe moderation and/or the established CMMB clique? No, no ... that couldn't possibly be the problem! No way! Nix that. So the conclusion one must draw from your statement is that ALL of the folk you have "brought over" here, candystripper, are deadbeats! [sm=lol.gif] They obviously didn't appreciate the nuances and subtleties of message board etiquette, and probably didn't realize that having 50% of their posts "mysteriously deleted" is par for the course on ANY message board. Whatever were they thinking? [;)]

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5. Increase Sections.

Whether this would really increase interest is unknown; what is known is that the boards would no longer fit on a single page, which might be a key programming goal. However, if it is worth considering, e.g., the major fetishes might get their own sections. It isn't something board members could affect.

There may already be too many forums on the CMMB ... adding further ones would not change anything. But adding more forums would not stop all of them being displayed on one page because the number of forums we already have causes that page to scroll in your window anyway. Currently, the mods spend much of their time moving posts from the busiest forum ("General BDSM Discussion") to the more appropriate forum that they should have been posted in in the first place. Why do posters make their original posts (OPs) in the wrong forum? Well, one reason is that some of them are lazy and/or dumb asses who cannot be bothered to determine where they should post their OPs.

However, the fact that the majority of mis-posted OPs that are moved originate in the "General BDSM Discussion" forum also gives a clue to the real reason for the mis-posting of new threads. The posters put them in the busiest forum because they perceive that they will be read by more eyeballs there. While that dynamic persists, creating more eclectic forums on the CMMB is only going to create more confusion for the users and much more work for the mods. That would all detract from the time the mods are able spend deleting posts. Oh, just a minute, candystripper, sissy thinks you might be on to something here .... [:)]

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i see a loss of something valuable in the fact that most CM members do not post.

You are looking at this issue completely ass-about-tit. The real loss to the CMMB is NOT the folks that have never posted, and would have nothing to say even if they did. You cannot miss what you never had! [:D] The real loss to the CMMB are the well-respected posters that did have something to say that used to post regularly and now no longer do so. The question you need to ask yourself is: "Why does the CMMB have one of the biggest attrition rates of any message board?" Only then will you start to properly comprehend the "real" problem. [;)]

Respectfrilly Yours,

`·.,¸¸,.·´¯"§§ _ sissy maid lola _ §§"¯`·.,¸¸,.·´


To give real service you must add something which cannot be bought or measured with money, and that is sincerity and integrity. - Douglas Adams




mistoferin -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 8:27:12 PM)

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I guess mods delated Padrigs posts about sugestions to improve email because it's gone


Wow...you're right it is. I find that rather odd unless something drastic happened on the thread and it devolved quickly...last I checked it I thought there was a pretty good exchange going on.




mistoferin -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 8:34:45 PM)

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The real loss to the CMMB are the well-respected posters that did have something to say that used to post regularly and now no longer do so.


I have to agree that this is indeed a loss....and some of us miss them a great deal.




FangsNfeet -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 9:30:23 PM)

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How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards?



Hmmmmm. Let's state the first obvious statisic. The majority is here for SEX!!! Or to pretend to be someone they aren't.

Other than that, many people that I've tried to encourage to read the boards go on to say that they are tired of threads where people rant, whine, and complain. It's to much Drama for them.

Now you have people who are under confident. They are too scared to make a post or a reply in fear of being slamed with a rude response or even a well mannared message that contradicts there idea. Conflict is not an option for some. The turn tail and run before deciding to debate.

We now have people who are just tired of reading the threads. After all, how often is there an original topic? After all, how many ideas have been thought of that can not be found twice with the SEARCH FUNCTION?

I've heard more than once that we aren't having enough maturity on the boards.

One more thing, the majority is here only for SEX and online masterbation material.




FelinePersuasion -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 9:52:28 PM)

And who would be the collarme judge of what is interesting?


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ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola

5% that already post actually have something interesting to say and also know how to present it, and thus are worth the time and effort invested in the reading. More is NOT always better. Cue Bruce Springsteen: 57 channels and nothing on ...






FelinePersuasion -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 10:00:23 PM)

I don't wish for that and I think it's quite conceited to. I have much more lofty wishes if wishes could come true than an elitist board where only I and my favorite 12 or so could post.





sissymaidlola -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 10:10:58 PM)

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And who would be the collarme judge of what is interesting?

Would that be a vote for having lots more illiterate piffle on the boards, feline ???

`·.,¸¸,.·´¯"§§ _ sissy maid lola _ §§"¯`·.,¸¸,.·´


To give real service you must add something which cannot be bought or measured with money, and that is sincerity and integrity. - Douglas Adams




sissymaidlola -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 10:35:38 PM)

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I don't wish for that and I think it's quite conceited to. I have much more lofty wishes if wishes could come true than an elitist board where only I and my favorite 12 or so could post.

WOW ... you have much more lofty wishes than to be just plain elitist! There is no way that sissy can compete with that, feline. [:(] Just fantasizing about being elitist is as much as he can manage. [;)] sissy Wishes with all his heart that one day he will be able to be as tremendously big a snob as you, feline! [:D]

`·.,¸¸,.·´¯"§§ _ sissy maid lola _ §§"¯`·.,¸¸,.·´


To give real service you must add something which cannot be bought or measured with money, and that is sincerity and integrity. - Douglas Adams




FelinePersuasion -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 10:38:19 PM)

Some of the stuff I don't consider piffle. I like the humorous posts about lame shit people are sent in emails. And I like the funny little ancidotes. It's not my place to consider who has the right to post or not. And I wouldn't want it to be my right to.




UtopianRanger -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 10:47:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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The real loss to the CMMB are the well-respected posters that did have something to say that used to post regularly and now no longer do so.


I have to agree that this is indeed a loss....and some of us miss them a great deal.



Ahhh... Just chalk one up for good old-fashioned nihilism [8D]


- The Ranger




Lordandmaster -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 11:17:44 PM)

Basically I agree with this, although I don't know enough statistics to be able to claim that CM has one the highest attrition rates of ANY message board. But I certainly share the general sense that a lot of good posters have left the site.

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ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola

The real loss to the CMMB is NOT the folks that have never posted, and would have nothing to say even if they did. You cannot miss what you never had! [:D] The real loss to the CMMB are the well-respected posters that did have something to say that used to post regularly and now no longer do so. The question you need to ask yourself is: "Why does the CMMB have one of the biggest attrition rates of any message board?" Only then will you start to properly comprehend the "real" problem. [;)]





sissymaidlola -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/3/2006 11:45:42 PM)

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Some of the stuff I don't consider piffle. I like the humorous posts about lame shit people are sent in emails. And I like the funny little ancidotes. It's not my place to consider who has the right to post or not. And I wouldn't want it to be my right to.

Yes, the little ancidotes are always lots of fun, aren't they? sissy Really enjoys those, too. [:)] But who said anything about someone having the right to post or not? sissy's Point was that quality was more important than quantity. Less is more. And that doing whatever it takes to keep the current crop of good posters here is much more important than encouraging everyone with a keyboard and an itchy finger to post. If candystripper is going to lament the loss of posters on these boards, it should be the ones that were actually here and contributed and made a difference to people who have been allowed to slip away ... rather than lament over a bunch of non-existent posters that could theoretically be here based on dubious statistical analysis.

"When it comes to a message board, the writers mean everything and the readers mean nothing." That sage comment courtesy of UtopianRanger.

`·.,¸¸,.·´¯"§§ _ sissy maid lola _ §§"¯`·.,¸¸,.·´


To give real service you must add something which cannot be bought or measured with money, and that is sincerity and integrity. - Douglas Adams




sissymaidlola -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/4/2006 12:34:34 AM)

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folks should be prepared to meet up with opinions that are not carbon copies of their own

OMG, what a concept! [sm=tongue.gif] Of course, if someone is a CMMB "sacred cow" they can always have a moderator remove a post they don't like. Hell, there has to be some privileges associated with having all those paddles after your name. It's the CMMB equivalent of the frequent flier's trip to Hawaii. Of course, when a CMMB "sacred cow" is ALSO a moderator then it becomes even easier for them to remove a post that they disagree with. [:)]

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... agree to disagree and maybe even thicken up their skin a little--sometimes the topics here are not all flowers and romance and personalities will clash, just like in other online message boards (and offline social groups as well)

Oh, God forbid ... a little tension and conflict on a message board! Whatever next? [;)] Most message boards welcome lots of tension and conflict because it makes for a good read. If it gets completely out of hand and develops into a flame war then, and ONLY then, the moderators step in and cool things down or remove / ban the offending party if they are a troll. There are currently some moderators on the CMMB that think ANY kind of tension or disagreement is a bad thing, that ANY contrary opinion is a flame that needs to be removed, and that anyone that posts a contrary opinion is a troll that must be censored. Then other folk, bless their naive little hearts, wonder why many posters leave after a while. Well, duh ?? [:D]

`·.,¸¸,.·´¯"§§ _ sissy maid lola _ §§"¯`·.,¸¸,.·´


To give real service you must add something which cannot be bought or measured with money, and that is sincerity and integrity. - Douglas Adams




candystripper -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/4/2006 2:11:28 AM)

Well, i scarecly know what to say. i never lamented (def.: to mourn aloud; to wail) the loss that non-posters might represent. i certainly never meant to suggest the boards were perfect or the mods were perfect and frankly, i guess i find them both better than lola. i do miss people who contributed and later left.

i disagree that all the CM intelligensia has migrated over, and none of the 99% who do not post have anything to contribute. But i take the point about increased traffic.

i guess things are ok as is.

candystripper




IronBear -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/4/2006 2:54:01 AM)

In a couple of cases I know of, people have left, not because of the Mods and their actions, but because of two or three posters who have continually been obnoxious. It is up to each person if they wish to participate or not participate or even leave altogether... You can not please all the people all the time. There are some who piss me right off most of the time but..... They do post some amazing posts at times. There diversity is also something which makes CM a great place to be.... You have a choiuce to either be an active part of the CM family or isolate yourself. Both have equal value. Don't forget that many non posters do come and read the forums and as such have the chance to learn and benifit from the experience of those who post....

~ Keep it UP and Keep it DEEP ~




mistoferin -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/4/2006 5:16:34 AM)

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Ahhh... Just chalk one up for good old-fashioned nihilism


Could you please explain further. Guess I am not understanding here, are you saying that I am nihilistic because I said that I miss people....or that they are nihilistic because they no longer post?




MsIncognito -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/4/2006 5:47:56 AM)

Well, we could eliminate some of the illiterate piffle on the boards by banning people who refer to themselves in the third person and post in big, pink, poofy fonts accessorized with lots of tildes and asterisks. (Truth be told there is only one third person type poster that I'd keep simply because she manages to present her thoughts cogently and intelligently despite the third person point of view, so beth is more than welcome to remain IMO). I think it's rather ironic that one who is calling for less illiterate piffle is bastardizing the language in this way. I vote for giving you your own private board so the rest of us don't have to tolerate the visual cacophony of your posts.

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ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola
Would that be a vote for having lots more illiterate piffle on the boards,




FangsNfeet -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/4/2006 6:03:59 AM)

As for counting up all the profiles on Collarme, let us not forget that there are a couple of strange people out there with multiple profiles that are just being desperate in finding someone.

So we may have even less people participating on the boards as you think. After all, some people need other profiles to agree with them even if it's really just themselves.




PenelopePitstop -> RE: How Can We Increase Participation on the Boards? (3/4/2006 6:17:39 AM)

Did we used to have a creative writing section? I seem to remember there was and I really miss it.

I do think we are better off without the vast majority of fly by nights who do seem to visit this site for cheap thrills and a quick hook-up. Maybe we're just best off encouraging people to find us on the boards when they email us?




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