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RE: To take or not? - 10/13/2009 6:50:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl


.......it's not been evident to me from his forum based *personality*..and frankly that's all I have to go on. .....



But yet it has been very evident to me that his comments are rather consistent with the personality that I have viewed on the forum. So... If neither of us are living in a fantasy world... how is it we have a different perception of the same information "Ie his posts on the forum"?

There is much that can affect our views of a certain subject or issue. I think just because one has a flowery view of M/s is not just because of the peaches and creams that might be expressed. In fact... It my opinion that M/s is far from being expressed as a Peaches and Cream relationship considering all the drama one sees with all the failed attempts going on. But yet.... some still hold on to that fantasy of the M/s dynamic. I believe such opinion is more a reflection of their judgement and perception of things around them than M/s relationships as a whole. We all have our filters when we look at the world around us.. some filters are rather pragmatic and there are others that are rather rosey in colour. Of course there is all other types of filters as well. Ironically, some filters help us to see some issues very clearly and then cloud others into a murky mess. Interestly... seldom are people interested in others helping them with their filters and perceptions unless they ask and sometimes even then... they only want to listen to the answer they want and not neccessarily what is!

I do suppose that this thread might help one or two people that needed to hear the message that the OP was trying to convey.... but far more are not interested or not ready to be interested. Nothing wrong with that fact... it just is. But.... I thinking expecting the opposite is rather foolhardy. But in the end... I found the OP's comments rather consistent with anything else I seen before or could of expected. Not bad or good... it just is from my point of view. Something like M/s dynamics and the preceptions people have of them.

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RE: To take or not? - 10/13/2009 7:39:24 AM   
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Welcome, Carol! I am glad things are going better for both of you, and see nothing wrong with your list (whether or not it is ranked). It's not as though you want to be *unhappy,* just that his happiness is very important, even crucial, to you and your own well-being and happiness, if I'm understanding correctly.

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RE: To take or not? - 10/13/2009 8:08:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


quote:

ORIGINAL: agirl


.......it's not been evident to me from his forum based *personality*..and frankly that's all I have to go on. .....



But yet it has been very evident to me that his comments are rather consistent with the personality that I have viewed on the forum. So... If neither of us are living in a fantasy world... how is it we have a different perception of the same information "Ie his posts on the forum"?

There is much that can affect our views of a certain subject or issue. I think just because one has a flowery view of M/s is not just because of the peaches and creams that might be expressed. In fact... It my opinion that M/s is far from being expressed as a Peaches and Cream relationship considering all the drama one sees with all the failed attempts going on. But yet.... some still hold on to that fantasy of the M/s dynamic. I believe such opinion is more a reflection of their judgement and perception of things around them than M/s relationships as a whole. We all have our filters when we look at the world around us.. some filters are rather pragmatic and there are others that are rather rosey in colour. Of course there is all other types of filters as well. Ironically, some filters help us to see some issues very clearly and then cloud others into a murky mess. Interestly... seldom are people interested in others helping them with their filters and perceptions unless they ask and sometimes even then... they only want to listen to the answer they want and not neccessarily what is!

I do suppose that this thread might help one or two people that needed to hear the message that the OP was trying to convey.... but far more are not interested or not ready to be interested. Nothing wrong with that fact... it just is. But.... I thinking expecting the opposite is rather foolhardy. But in the end... I found the OP's comments rather consistent with anything else I seen before or could of expected. Not bad or good... it just is from my point of view. Something like M/s dynamics and the preceptions people have of them.


Just to be clear here...I mentioned one comment ...not *comments*, in the plural.

People will obviously *get an idea* of someone from their posting and of COURSE that idea will be going through their own *filter*. I don't think for one moment that everyone reading my postings has exactly the same *perception* of me.

You seem to be focussing on ONE comment of mine to Jeff's ONE comment and then expanding on about M/s relationships in general....which isn't something I've mentioned at all (apart from the fact that I'm in a long held and successful one).......as you've ignored anything else in my posts.

Your perception of Jeff is simply not going to be the same as mine. It's got nothing to do with *fantasy* and down to personal interpretation.

I also said ........"
It's certainly possible that I'm seeing more of Jeff than I have before..or have read before, yes".. And that's a reference to how we shape our views of people .....over time and getting to know them more.

However, it was obviously and clearly MY thoughts on that ONE comment .....I didn't present it as some *fact*.

I'd prefer to stop discussing Jeff in this way now, as it feels rather rude to me. If he has anything to say about my comment,  I'm sure he's capable of letting me know.

Regards, agirl









< Message edited by agirl -- 10/13/2009 8:09:48 AM >

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RE: To take or not? - 10/13/2009 4:17:13 PM   
catize


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  Clearly it was tossing pearls to the swine....


Meanwhile, back at the sty, Ms Piggy sings her own rendition of a ZZTop somg:
“She was really bombed
And I was blown away
Until I asked her what she wanted
And this is what she had to say;
A pearl necklace,
She wanna pearl necklace
She wanna pearl necklace.” 
 
Yep, OP, I'm offended by your remark.  Since when does a difference of opinion indicate greater or lesser IQ? 


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