OrionTheWolf
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ORIGINAL: MartinP
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As for not responding or etaking into consideration all the posts of these thread, it is not humanly possible, I noticed that lovingpet has been quite upset about it and gave her a brief answer.
Brief yes, but never addressed direct questions to you.
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Look at the profiles of owned submissives, and you will find quite often a passage like "I am owned by XYZ and any request for contact must go through him first" I have no beef with that, BTW. So before labelling anything, do your homework.
My girl has that restriction because so many want to rescue her, or actually just fuck her/take her away. She has standing orders to be pleasant to someone unless I say otherwise, so she uses bulk mail filters to get rid of some, and the others that create sub or switch profiles are filtered by me. Besides that she is on the internet daily (unless restricted due to punishment). She has her own cellphone. Your insinuations are straw man arguments, but your ego will not allow you to admit that you stepped in shit with your comments.
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And no, the submissive with whom I chatted did not complain on their current relationship or asked to be rescued or seek a kinder, gentler, softer BDSM, nor did I offer any of these. You have never met or be in contact with a submissive who has been abused in the past? I do not mean abused in a BDSM relationship, but at all? That is strange.
I have been in contact with one, mine by her previous owner. Locked in a closet for a couple of days without food, and very little water. Her life was threatened, her family was threaten. It had the cycle of abuse, where there is uncontrolled actions, followed by apologies, promises of I love you, and then told she would be nothing without him, and the only way out was via death. I have read quite a bit on the issue. In fact I am the one that finally called 911, went to the town home she was being kept at, grabbed a baseball bat from the back, knocked on the door, when he opened it I took out his knee, a few kick strikes to his abdomen and back, then stopped over him to find amira huddled in the kitchen with a big ass kitchen knife. The cops arrived a few minutes later. He got 11 years and two felonies. I have read the literature put out by the NLA-I DV, which still does not address many power exchange relationships. Have even read a lot of Hans Meijer, who is considered an authority on the subject of BDSM and abuse.
So what have you read and studied, other than your single vision of what is right and wrong? Probably another question that will go unanswered.
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I was unhappily surprised by the occurences, but then, I have trouble believing the high numbers of abused women quoted by women right groups. On that later point, I will probably have to revise my opinion.
Maybe you should do some actual research. That is what the logical and intellectual people do.
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Now, wherefrom do you and the other get this idea that I am interested in rescuing anybody? I checked again my posts, since my English is not pristine, and I cannot find any occurence where I even suggested such a thing. Besides, I am in good position to know that women in general are very apt at defending themselves and submissives are no exception.
I was the first one to call you a White Knight, as you fit the common profile that many of us in this lifestyle have seen time and again, and again, and again,....... If you are in such a good position, then why the comments about defenseless or helpless women? What about the men that are in the same position?
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The "white knight" is just a epithet with which some people, uncomfortable with a challenge to their lifestyle, try to belittle me. It is a bad old rethoric trick, but I could not care less. I am not that pristine in my choice of words to cast the first stone.
Actually it was quid pro quo for your insult of calling me a coward, which I wonder how quickly you may say that to someone's face.
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Now, I understand that a challenge to one's lifestyle or core belief is an unpleasant thing to read, and a strong reaction, which of course will never change the opinion of the poster, has the advantage of getting the blood pressure back to healthier levels.
You did not just challenge, that is a lie and shows more of your deceit. You insulted several people's lifestyle with your comments. You have dodged direct questions, when your direct questions have been answered, and you keep propping up these straw man arguments, and we keep knocking them down.
So are you going to answer any of the questions? When you see something that you consider abuse, what are you willing to do? Do you take it at face value, or dig deeper to confirm things? Once confirmed, what are you willing to do then? How strong are your convictions and morals?
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