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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 10:30:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have an interesting aside... Both males and female have had kidney stones. Maybe we could find out, by the transitive property, which is worse? labor pains or kicked in the gonads?

Males: Is getting kicked in the future family worse than a kidney stone? by what factor?

Females: Same question, but with labor pains.

If I would have to make a guess though, Even IF labor pains were less or equal to kicked in the gonads... The fact that it lasts for so damn long must make it worse than getting kicked ever will.
I guess this transitive property idea is for one second of time :p

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 10:38:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Having had two children without any pain meds at all........I have to say a bad case of shin splints were the most painful to me.

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 10:39:01 AM   
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You pussy.

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 10:40:28 AM   
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You pussy.



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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 10:45:32 AM   
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Shin splints?????
You pussy.


Yeahhhhhh, I am weird like that. I try to avoid pain. Seriously, childbirth was way less painful than the feeling of hot knives against my shin bone.


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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 10:47:18 AM   
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Males: Is getting kicked in the future family worse than a kidney stone? by what factor?


I had gallstones ( do they count too)..worst pain ever for 6 hours....that was just before the operation.
Whole bladder was full. Doc said I should have come 5 months earlier..lol

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 11:08:30 AM   
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than a hefty kick in the goolies on a male


As ladies do not have goolies, how would they know what that feels like?

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 11:11:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting comparison idea graphicdesignace.

For me, I'd take the female cast of riverdance hitting me in the balls over kidney stones. (Started to say Rockettes, but I love redheads).

Seriously though, my kidney stone pain starts in my testicles, feeling like a light kick and then shooting a line of fire to somewhere around my appendix that lasts for hours. So relatively similar, but much longer lasting than a kick in the nuts.

And for those of you who think that ad is tough, have you seen the BME where guys put needles through the testes? Yikes.

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 11:12:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		This thread got me thinking about different types of pain, the characteristics that determine how we perceive it. Different types of pain vary in a number of ways:

  • level of intensity
  • duration/constancy - does it hurt only when you touch it or move it, and if so how long does the pain last; or does it hurt all the time
  • type of sensation - e.g., sharp or dull

I've known the pain from several different types of injuries, surgeries, and illnesses. When I think of the worst pains I've ever known, what usually come to mind is ones that are high in both intensity and duration/constancy, and a sharp pain usually seems more intense than a dull one.

In my experience, one of the worst pains in intensity is the dentist's drill hitting a nerve when it hasn't been numbed. Since the duration isn't very long, it doesn't make it to #1 on my list, but it's pretty high, 1 or 2. I can imagine how horrible it would be if someone did it to me for a long time, ala Marathon Man. The broken bones and torn ligaments don't make it to the top, either (interestingly, sometimes the tiniest fractures hurt more than full breaks), mostly because the pain tends to fade or be just a dull ache unless it's moved. The severe migraine is up there near the top, probably fighting it out for #2 or 3; it was constant, so severe that I was completely incapacitated, and intensified upon any movement or sound. But #1 so far has to go to waking up when the anesthesia wore off after some major internal surgery. We're talking uncontrollable screaming out loud pain, simply unbearable until they gave me morphine. I was never more thankful of anything in my life. The intensity was a severe as anything I've ever felt, the pain was both sharp and dull at the same time, and it was constant.


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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 11:25:58 AM   
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& this is a good place to step in & point out a little nuance about these relative states of pain . . . . .

Child-birth versus all the other medical conditions & injuries & such . . . . . Child-birth is the one pain where it can be considered 'medically better' to not anesthetize the pain. All the other ones mentioned in this thread, the docs medicate as soon as they can, as much as is necessary & possible. Severe pain is very stressful on the body & interferes with the healing processes. Alleviating pain, to whatever degree possible, is considered a medical necessity.

But child-birth carries the risk that the pain-killing agent will slow the infant's physical stuff down, so there's a desire to avoid that. Which eliminates a large chunk of the pain-killing arsenal.

& the one that the medical community 'likes' for child-birth is personally very distasteful. Local anesthetics are great, but stay the fuck away from my spine with a needle, thank you very freakin' much . . . . . lol . . . . Definitely a 'your kink ain't mine' thing, ladies, no offense . . . ... I'd just rather do labor & delivery clean rather than let someone stick me in the spine. If I was dyin' & they wanted to stick a needle in my spinal column, I'd probably have to think about it a bit . . . .

Oh. & I had 3 babies. No pain killers.

I liked what Carol Burnett said about it. She said anyone can imagine what childbirth is like. Just take your bottom lip. Pinch it between your thumb & forefinger firmly. Okay, now, pull it up & over your head, all the way to the nape of your neck. There ya go. That's childbirth.



Nice thread, OP, thanks!

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 11:55:03 AM   
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Shin splints?????
You pussy.
pussy my ass! Those suckers HURT!!!!!!


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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 12:01:31 PM   
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Kidney stone was so much more painful, even with medication.

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 12:19:37 PM   
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The medical community uses a scale of one to ten for the patient to evaluate their pain & communicate it to the health-care provider. Zero would be no pain, & ten would be?

Personally, I don't think I've ever had a ten. I'd put the labors & deliveries I went thru at, eh, sevens or eights. & the most serious pain I've had outside of that is minor in comparison . . . .



There's very little in the way of techniques to 'objectively measure pain'. Pain is very very very very very very subjective; one person's eight on that scale will be another person's three, & there will be others for whom it's the opposite . .. . .

At some point in the dim mists of my antiquity I did some reading on the subject of comparative pain & 'the word' was that the 'worst' pain was considered to probably accompany 'heart attacks' .. . .. Fer whatever that's worth - cuz that subjectivity thing throws such notions mostly out the window . . . . . .

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 12:23:33 PM   
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Pain is very very very very very very subjective


in the medical community pain can be measured by active in some brain parts.

for us with out equipment ..yes   subjective....

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 12:38:55 PM   
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& the one that the medical community 'likes' for child-birth is personally very distasteful. Local anesthetics are great, but stay the fuck away from my spine with a needle, thank you very freakin' much . . . . . lol . . . . Definitely a 'your kink ain't mine' thing, ladies, no offense . . . ... I'd just rather do labor & delivery clean rather than let someone stick me in the spine. If I was dyin' & they wanted to stick a needle in my spinal column, I'd probably have to think about it a bit . . . .


It's not that bad.  
I had one because I had placenta previa and forceps so they could get in before he engaged his head to keep it out the way.  It was that or a C section.  With my girl, she was more helpful and moved it aside herself 

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 12:51:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Darcy - I was lucky & had uneventful labors & deliveries, & not everyone has that option, good point . . . . . My point was mostly more illustrative of the subjectivity & variability about pain & it's coping choices, & was pretty tangential . .. . .

Justme696 - I think what you're referencing is that researchers can see pain occurring thru such media as functional MRIs, which is different from my intent which was more about a lack of 'diagnostic machines' that could objectively evaluate how much pain any given patient might be feeling, accurately & independent of the patient's own self-assesment . . . . . What I had in mind is sorta the pain-evaluation version of thermometers & stethoscopes & so on . . . . . . Hope that clarifies . . . . .

ETA: [brain-oh correction]

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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 1:07:10 PM   
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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 3:31:04 PM   
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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 3:32:56 PM   
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RE: Ladies, what pain....? - 10/7/2009 4:44:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had a fourth degree tear ( tearing uncontrolled into the rectum ) with my first um - and the worst pain i have had is (drum roll) ...... raising the damn ums. Physically, and psychologically painful, with the knowledge that the cause will never go away. Toothache? mehh, the dentist will fix the cause, but kids are the gift that keeps on giving ... pain!

The worst thing is , is that they occasionally give pleasure too, so you don't want to do them in. Hmm, sounds sort of like a S/m relationship.

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