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dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 5:26:31 AM

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Inside a D/D relationship, I wonder if one could make their partner submit with positive reaction without damaging the sense of dominance of the partner?

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 6:39:17 AM

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Of course it's possible. A couple of days ago, someone calling himself MasterAlaster wrote that he was a Master and his former Domme was now his slave.

That said, I have to wonder - if both were comfortable with their roles going into the relationship, what happened to change things?

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 6:56:01 AM

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Yes it is possible and can be done in a subtle way as to go unnoticed. However this is very underhanded if done on purpose, particulary if one is trying to "test" the dominance of their partner or to get their partner to switch ends of the whip. I would think eventually it would effect the foundation of trust and crack it.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 7:04:20 AM

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at OP
"forced" , don't think so.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 7:07:02 AM

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most definitely possible and far too easy *sigh* skill is no longer even required to play head games with imbecilic wannabe doms, however, every once in a while you can find someone who isnt quite as easily manipulated( or you dont wish to because, at least they are trying) that is quite rare, however, i am dedicating my virtual existence to helping people become aware of this problem....now if only the collarme's journal would stop leaving huge gaps between messages...grrr.... but yes onward with the mission....

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 7:54:34 AM

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the person Im asking about likes the other to be forceful and rough sexually but has a contempt (rebel) for being told what to do

(amateur counselor friendship LOL)

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 8:02:34 AM

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I think your answers will vary dependent upon how people translate your question. Given what I have read of other's experiences, it is very poossible for a dominant person to enjoy bottoming. However, those same people may very well not see their actions as submitting.

It is very likely you will have a serious disconnect in answers because of the above.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 8:02:51 AM

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One can be dominant, but like to bottom, which is what it sounds like you're describing.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 8:17:21 AM

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Im going to print all this out and give it to her so any recommendations will help her in planning stages

thank you for this, Im just not experienced enough to even attempt to answer her question.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 8:19:10 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: UrbanSpider

the person Im asking about likes the other to be forceful and rough sexually but has a contempt (rebel) for being told what to do

(amateur counselor friendship LOL)

Sounds like she's submissive only in the bedroom.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 8:22:50 AM

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its the other way around I think, if I understand her correctly, she wants to top him.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 8:39:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
I think your answers will vary dependent upon how people translate your question. Given what I have read of other's experiences, it is very poossible for a dominant person to enjoy bottoming. However, those same people may very well not see their actions as submitting.

Well put Tigresse. I am the way you describe. I've never understood the application of the words "dominance" and "submission" within the bedroom context. So for me, the fact that sometimes I like to bottom in the bedroom doesn't affect my sense of dominance at all. It's like saying "I'm dominant and I also like to play tennis".

The whole "forced" to submit thing though... that's just a lost in fantasy phrase.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 8:46:04 AM

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If you are talking about a D/D relationship meanind Dom/Domme, they one partner can easily submit or bottom (which isnt submitting) to the other without damaging anyone's dominance. If the bottoming or submission is a one time thing or only durring session then it doesnt change the person's overall dominance. I had a dominant partner back in the day who was an absolutely sadistic aggressive male, except when he was with me. He bottomed to me often, becasue he trusted me and enjoyed the playtime without having to worry about me questioning his dominance becasue he liked the sensations of a bottom.

Not everyone who likes to bottom has any interest in submitting. They like the feeling of recieving but the idea of actully being controlled doesnt work for them.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 8:54:50 AM

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quote:

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Not everyone who likes to bottom has any interest in submitting. They like the feeling of recieving but the idea of actully being controlled doesnt work for them.

Oh god thank you I thought I was a closet sub XD

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 8:57:48 AM

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don't rule out the fact that you still can be a switch

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 9:43:57 AM

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quote:

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most definitely possible and far too easy *sigh* skill is no longer even required to play head games with imbecilic wannabe doms, however, every once in a while you can find someone who isnt quite as easily manipulated( or you dont wish to because, at least they are trying) that is quite rare, however, i am dedicating my virtual existence to helping people become aware of this problem....now if only the collarme's journal would stop leaving huge gaps between messages...grrr.... but yes onward with the mission....

Wow, that's whack - I just spent a half hour editing out line breaks in my profile that I didn't put in there - hey, it's free, but I think there's something going on with the database.

W/regard to the OP, I don't mind a challenge, good luck with that.

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Of course it's possible. A couple of days ago, someone calling himself MasterAlaster wrote that he was a Master and his former Domme was now his slave.

That said, I have to wonder - if both were comfortable with their roles going into the relationship, what happened to change things?

Depends on the people involved, one might characterize that as personal growth if their initial roles were based on conformity to external expectations.

Force a dom to become submissive, and you'll basically get a miserable dom.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 10:06:58 AM

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You cannot force anyone to submit any more than you can force someone to be heterosexual (having sex with someone of the opposite gender does not make you heterosexual... it's an activity, not an orientation).

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 10:17:57 AM

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All things are indeed possible it is the probability I would be questioning.

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 2:31:31 PM

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I wonder if one could

One could. Your question is an extreme generalization, a.k.a. a "oneliner", valid if it applies to one single person in the universe....

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RE: dom forced to submit, possible? - 10/11/2009 3:15:53 PM

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Being *forced* to do anything leaves a bad taste in my...mouth...

Now *forcing* someone else to do *things* is a different story LOL...besides they yield at some point and thats not really being *forced*...

tsk tsk...

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