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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

sounds to me like she is aching to find a man strong enough to slam her to her knees and keep her there, Master Orion. despite her denials, i see a slave belly in there, waiting to burn for the right man.

alas, silly Female that she is, she doesnt see the freedom in chains and spends so much time denying what she is instead of seeking out the truths within herself.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

I could have no greater confirmation that I am absolutely, 100%, unequivocably and inarguably correct in everything I have said.

Thank you for the encouragement. Please keep whining and crying. It makes my day.

So anyone that disagrees with you is whining and crying?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

sounds to me like she is aching to find a man strong enough to slam her to her knees and keep her there, Master Orion. despite her denials, i see a slave belly in there, waiting to burn for the right man.

alas, silly Female that she is, she doesnt see the freedom in chains and spends so much time denying what she is instead of seeking out the truths within herself.

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
I dunno, not to take away from your self identified misogyny but it seems to me if you can be friends with women you don't really hate us.

Relationships are a whole nother story though.

Therein lies the duality. I usually tend to phrase it as "I hate 'chicks' (and of course rabid feminists) but I don't really mind the down-to-earth "guys' girls."

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ORIGINAL: Lucienne

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

sounds to me like she is aching to find a man strong enough to slam her to her knees and keep her there, Master Orion. despite her denials, i see a slave belly in there, waiting to burn for the right man.

alas, silly Female that she is, she doesnt see the freedom in chains and spends so much time denying what she is instead of seeking out the truths within herself.

Well, that's obnoxious. I realize Shakti took the gloves off a long time ago in this thread, but your comment is pretty far off point. The idea that feminism is a disease to be cured by the sexual attentions of the right man is pretty old school. Incorporating that idea into a bdsm frame strikes me as a bad idea. There are plenty of feminist subs out there. And non-feminist dommes.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

sounds to me like she is aching to find a man strong enough to slam her to her knees and keep her there, Master Orion. despite her denials, i see a slave belly in there, waiting to burn for the right man.

alas, silly Female that she is, she doesnt see the freedom in chains and spends so much time denying what she is instead of seeking out the truths within herself.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

sounds to me like she is aching to find a man strong enough to slam her to her knees and keep her there, Master Orion. despite her denials, i see a slave belly in there, waiting to burn for the right man.

alas, silly Female that she is, she doesnt see the freedom in chains and spends so much time denying what she is instead of seeking out the truths within herself.

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ORIGINAL: SimplyIsaac

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

I could have no greater confirmation that I am absolutely, 100%, unequivocably and inarguably correct in everything I have said.

Thank you for the encouragement. Please keep whining and crying. It makes my day.

So anyone that disagrees with you is whining and crying?

Well, based on experience in these forums, the description does seem to fit with you on more than one occasion. Shakti's words in this forum have always been well articulated and food for thought. Yours, however, leave much to be desired here.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
Gals like this look great at the cryptofascist rallies weeping tears of joy for the Fatherland, and they're great at pumping out cannon fodder and propaganda for the Reich. Before you open up the concentration camps, you can count on your little doggies to murder the mental patients in your hospitals, and once the camps are in full sway, you can always count on them to shave the heads of the female prisoners and publish "scientific" papers about how the gypsy children aren't fully human. In the years before you have that kind of destructive power, though, they'll be happy to yap on and on like Satan's own lapdogs about Motherhood and Femaleness and how to be a "proper" woman.

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The same way a Jew can help to run a Nazi death camp. They were called kapos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapo_(concentration_camp)

Women like Elisabella are the modern day equivalent.

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There were plenty of feminists who died at Ravensbrück. I haven't forgotten that women like Elisabella helped put them there. Forgive me if I refuse to pretend that this didn't happen, or that it won't happen again as soon as she and her ilk get the chance.

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Murder, imprisonment, torture, starvation and execution are probably a little strenuous for your taste; you'd rather leave that sort of labor to the men and stay the "Kinder Kirche and Kuche" type.

Doesn't matter. Women like you still helped to criminalize feminism, have laws passed against women's rights, and get feminists arrested and murdered as political prisoners. So don't feel bad, sweetie. You're just as bad and destructive as a concentration camp guard in your own little way.

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In fact, if you and everyone else like you, male dominant misogynists and female submissive apologists for a misogynist system alike, would be so kind as to hold your breath until I deign to give a fuck how offended you are? It would improve this planet a good deal.

Would even create a lot of new jobs. We'd need a whole lot of people to dig graves.

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you need to grow the hell up and grow an extra brain cell. Because the one you were born with is gonna get real lonely and start crying pretty soon.

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You and female submissives like you are every bit as frightening and disgusting in your way as a Moony who tries to kidnap people at the airport to be brainwashed to serve the Reverend.

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a creature like you, a proactive slave that would help Massa hunt down and kill the will to power in all the others.

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You are actively working to rescind women's rights and obstruct their attempts to achieve equality.

You are an evil being.

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anti-feminist troll who[blatant lie redacted] works daily to make the world a stupider, more unjust, more racist and sexist place.

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We don't ask because we don't fucking care what Daddy told you to pretend to think this week. We already know what people like you are going to say: the answer is "whatever Talking Points have been released to the Faithful via Fox News lately".

Not one of you fascist douchbags has had an original thought since Martin Luther.

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you're a hateful right-wing Uncle-Ruckus-Wannabe.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

A person is either a male supremacist or they are not. People who are not male supremacists are feminists, male or female.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Would you expect someone that agrees with you, to insult you? I mean seriously!

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

I'd expect someone who proudly admits he hates my gender to be more hostile toward me than a woman who claims to work in my best interests as a woman.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

I'd expect someone who proudly admits he hates my gender to be more hostile toward me than a woman who claims to work in my best interests as a woman.

1) He doesn't hate your gender, dumbass. He just thinks you exist to serve him. You agree with him. Ergo he doesn't find you threatening. He's a heterosexual Gorean dom. He LIKES to pat women on the head and condescend to them when they obey and serve him and agree with him about their place in the scheme of things. What he doesn't like is women who believe they are his equals and that they deserve to be treated as such.

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2) If you think that I care about what YOUR interests are, as a feminist, you are very much mistaken. Feminism is a necessary adjunct to humanism. I work in the interests of people of BOTH genders who believe in human rights and equality.

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You are not one of those people. You, and the men and women who agree with you, are in fact the enemy, the opposition, the force of stupidity and evil in this world that needs to be destroyed.

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I do not care what your interests are. I do not care what you think would make the world a better place than feminism. I've seen the world you think is so wonderful and I consider it a nightmare. There is no further debate necessary with every pie-eyed femsub moron who hasn't accrued enough life experience to know how little her sexual fantasies have to do with political and economic reality.

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I'm sorry that you have never run into a person with real principles who actually lives by them and speaks accordingly before.

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If there were more liberals like me in this world, people like you would not have had the opportunity to do so much harm every time they were at the tiller of the American government for the last 30 years.

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If you're expecting an apology for anything I've said to you or any other male supremacist in this thread? Think again.

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Frankly? Yes, I do think the world would be a better place if you and everyone like you suddenly developed strange difficulties in breathing.

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You want me to think differently, shut the hell up and stop trying to make me a slave. I already know that I will never yield and that I would much prefer to die-I've already figured out that killing ALL OF YOU is a far more desirable alternative than either death or slavery. Frankly,I would consider it perfectly valid self-defense at this point to shoot any anti-feminist in the face. You included

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

lol... your right. being submissive towards a male (or female for some i suppose) is a bucketload of fun. i enjoy being at his feet, catering to his needs, delighting in the sight, smell and taste of him. Thats within the home. Outside of it, i enjoy being his woman, someone he holds hands with, opens doors for, treats with deference and public respect. How that brings you or any other woman back to the dark ages, i have no clue.

It doesn't hon. Being submissive to the person you love is a beautiful thing, and the ability to choose this life and live happily within it is crucial to any legitimate definition of the word "freedom".

On the other hand, being forced to be submissive to complete and total fucking strangers, just because they are men and you are a woman, is NOT a beautiful thing. It is an ugly, stupid, preposterous thing. And being able to choose NOT to live this way, and to demand equal treatment and equal rights in public, is ALSO crucial to any legitimate definition of the word "freedom".

The idea that because I am a feminist, I am rude to men who open doors for me or show me courtesy in public is just yet another retarded stereotype which has zero basis in fact. I always say thank you when a man opens a door for me, and I have greatly appreciated the times when friends or acquaintances have offered to walk me home through darkened streets where women were frequently attacked, etc..

I appreciate it and say thank you when women open the door for me as well, of course, and I would appreciate a walk home from a well-trained female martial artist as well. *shrug* I don't think you have to be male to be courteous or gallant.

Part of being a feminist I reckon.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
It really is black and white. A person is either a male supremacist or they are not. People who are not male supremacists are feminists, male or female.

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ORIGINAL: fryingpan
It's clear you're a feminist who doesn't hate men. You have your right to your opinion of feminism (which was needed because women were very much oppressed, and still are today in large parts of the world). But it is also just as obviously clear that you are not a hateful, radical feminist.

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Humanism is based on rational thinking and thought.  I do not support in any way what tazzy wrote yet, your quote of extermination and advocation of genocide doesn't even touch rational thinking.  This branch of 'feminism' you have just portrayed is no way a facet of humanism... and even if you are saying it out of anger or frustration, it is appalling.  Humanism is engaged with what is human, not inhuman.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Humanism is based on rational thinking and thought.  I do not support in any way what tazzy wrote yet, your quote of extermination and advocation of genocide doesn't even touch rational thinking.  This branch of 'feminism' you have just portrayed is no way a facet of humanism... and even if you are saying it out of anger or frustration, it is appalling.  Humanism is engaged with what is human, not inhuman.

I disagree. I do not think there is anything AT ALL irrational about the willingness to kill in order to remain alive and free. Humanism is not based on the sort of thinking you do in chains, or in a cage. It is based on the free thought of free people.

Given a choice between slavery and death, I feel that death is by far the more rational alternative. Particularly if you can make that the death of your oppressor, rather than your own.

Freedom comes at a price. The people who wish to make you un-free will push the envelope as far as you will allow them to. Eventually, you have to make it clear what is at stake: life itself.

Anyone who is not willing to die for his or her freedom is doomed to be a slave. I am not willing to be a slave. Anyone who tries to "slam me to my knees" is going to find that out the very, very hard way.

My condolences in advance to their families and friends.

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Wow. Sometimes it just physically hurts to be so very, very right about what motivates a person to troll on the subject of feminism.

I would ask you to keep your fucking INSANE kajira fantasies to yourself, tazzygirl, but frankly I appreciate the fact that people like you and "Master Orion" are willing to post and remove the ambiguity that some people might still imagine surrounds these issues.

It really is black and white. A person is either a male supremacist or they are not. People who are not male supremacists are feminists, male or female.

Once again, thanks for posting. Strangely, your insane lost-in-your-sexual-fantasies drivel really does make everything abundantly clear in a way that no amount of reasoned argument or pointless debate ever will.