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ladynlord -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/27/2009 4:28:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lacyshadows

why does my master want to have sex w another man so that he can watch?


All of the power or control aspects offered here make perfect sense. There is one other possible aspect that We have encountered before. A dominant who was emotionally attached to the sub ... and submitted her to others so that he could experience the "jeolousy" in a sort of cuckolding situation. He felt humiliation and emotional pain (which was the goal) even though she was told to submit and did so against her desires.

I don't know the dynamics and emotional level of your relationship, so I only offer that as an alternative to what has been put out there thus far.




librarysub -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/27/2009 6:22:46 PM)

Please make very sure he knows what he wants and why. It is very hard to stretch your boundaries and then find that you still aren't meeting his needs and never can. Talk until you are both sure what's going on.




BoiJen -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/27/2009 6:35:59 PM)

OP: There's only two answers to this

Because he has a cuckolding fantasy

or

Because he has a pimp fantasy

boi




Drifa -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/27/2009 8:05:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lacyshadows
thank you for the good advice. i am sorry for your loss. i lost my soldier to the war in april and i can not get over it. i do not see the light at the end of the tunnel. i have master now to forget all my sorrow. i hope that he beats it out of me.
i think it is easier to be dumb then you have no idea what is going on and you do ont care......


If the OP really is a soldier's widow, you need to contact your Veteran's Administration Regional Office and also your soldier's home base. Both will have programs to help you in terms of survivor's benefits and also grief counseling programs.  Grief is not something that can be worked through in six months. The average time of grieving is usually more like three years. And alcohol cannot shorten that, nor can pain, nor anything else other than living through it. If you're for real about being a widow, you don't need a master six months after your soldier's death, and you sure as shit don't need some other woman. You need time to allow yourself to heal and probably counseling.

I look at this statement, then I look at the OP's profile, which says nothing except "I am looking for a submissive female to help me learn how to serve my master better.  I would like to make friends with submissive women to find out what works and to trade stories about her adventures and mine."  That profile screams "I am a man pretending to be a submissive woman so I can collect wanking material." 

As a person who takes very seriously our responsibility as a society to soldiers and their families, I would be REALLY pissed to find this is some asshole trying for a fake sympathy angle to help get more wanking material. Pretending to be a soldier's widow to get wanking material would be so low and so vile that I can't even come up with prejudicial terms low and nasty enough. Abraham Lincoln set the VA's mission statement: "To care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow, and his orphan". A veteran is someone who in his life wrote a blank check made payable to the U.S.A. for an amount "up to and including my life". Our veterans and real survivors deserve more respect.




xssve -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:13:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

OP: There's only two answers to this

Because he has a cuckolding fantasy

or

Because he has a pimp fantasy

boi

I think this is probably close the truth in a general sense, although there are in fact, any number of reasonable explanations for a cuckolding paraphila, and a "pimp fantasy" is essentially just one particular manifestation of an objectification fantasy.

The difference here is largely between identification (cuckolding) and objectification.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:15:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

OP: There's only two answers to this

Because he has a cuckolding fantasy

or

Because he has a pimp fantasy

boi




Only two??? Come on! Perhaps he just gets off seeing his woman being fucked by another man??? Thats neither cuckolding nor pimp.




AnnaOfAramis -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:24:57 AM)

FR~

And perhaps it can also have nothing to do with fantasy and could have something to do with what he feels is necessary for a girl's growth as a slave. Maybe as a Master, he senses something more in her that can only find it's expression by serving others. Maybe he feels that she can understand her slavery and his ownership more completely by understanding that she will serve others if he wishes her to. Perhaps he feels she has a higher calling and there is a spiritual reason behind his actions. There are many reasons a Master may have for doing these things, depending on the Man, the particular female he owns, and what he feels is necessary for her growth.

Well wishes,
anna




BoiJen -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:25:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Only two??? Come one! Perhaps he just gets off seeing his woman being fucked by another man??? Thats neither cuckolding or pimp.


No man is that altruistic except Gandi and Gandi ain't here no more. But maybe Gandi  had a cuckolding fantasy at one time or another...

I wonder if the OP ever actually asked the guy she's with why instead of asking strangers to speculate?

boi

PS-only two possible answers in the whole wide world, I promise, cuz I know everything ;-)




BoiJen -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:28:21 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AnnaOfAramis

FR~

And perhaps it can also have nothing to do with fantasy and could have something to do with what he feels is necessary for a girl's growth as a slave. Maybe as a Master, he senses something more in her that can only find it's expression by serving others. Maybe he feels that she can understand her slavery and his ownership more completely by understanding that she will serve others if he wishes her to. Perhaps he feels she has a higher calling and there is a spiritual reason behind his actions. There are many reasons a Master may have for doing these things, depending on the Man, the particular female he owns, and what he feels is necessary for her growth.

Well wishes,
anna


Note: fucking and service are two different things unless there's cash exchange. "Servicing" the word use in describing most situations of prostitution, deals with the financial act of paying for a "service" instead of a "good". The person gets something done, they do not receive an object.

Just sayin...

boi




lusciouslips19 -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:28:23 AM)

perhaps if another man wants his women it validates him????? Strokes the ego that he got the prize and hes so generous hes willing to share???




BoiJen -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:30:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

perhaps if another man wants his women it validates him????? Strokes the ego that he got the prize and hes so generous hes willing to share???


Mother Theresa wasn't *that* generous. That's like saying the fat kid is gonna share some of his cake...it's just not gonna happen ;-)

boi




mnottertail -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:31:12 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

OP: There's only two answers to this

Because he has a cuckolding fantasy

or

Because he has a pimp fantasy

boi




Third possibility BoiJen:

Maybe he wants to see if you really can poke an eye out with one of these things........




BoiJen -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:33:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Third possibility BoiJen:

Maybe he wants to see if you really can poke an eye out with one of these things........


Ron, you suck for removing the observance of my omnipotence. You needed to know that.

boi




AnnaOfAramis -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:35:40 AM)

quote:


Note: fucking and service are two different things unless there's cash exchange. "Servicing" the word use in describing most situations of prostitution, deals with the financial act of paying for a "service" instead of a "good". The person gets something done, they do not receive an object.

Just sayin...

boi


Service in the case of slavery involves everything a girl's master wants her to provide. If you look at the old way servants of the big houses in the 1800s used to describe their job, they said they were "in service." And a girl's master may want her to serve other men non specifically. Such as perhaps she brings them drinks, perhaps she goes and cleans their house, and yes, perhaps she serves sexually also. I do rather think that was not the point of my post however. The point was there are many reasons for a man to want a girl to have sex with other men.





Acer49 -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:43:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lacyshadows

why does my master want to have sex w another man so that he can watch? why does he get off of this and is not jealous? i will do it i jsut want tunerstand why.


It is a power trip, He needs to prove to himself that he is a dom and by asking such things of his sub/slave is his way. I would never consider asking this of my partner. I never shared my toys as a youngester, and I don't share my woman as an adult.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:44:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

quote:

ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

perhaps if another man wants his women it validates him????? Strokes the ego that he got the prize and hes so generous hes willing to share???


Mother Theresa wasn't *that* generous. That's like saying the fat kid is gonna share some of his cake...it's just not gonna happen ;-)

boi



A lot of people get off watching their partner with someone else. Thats swinging for you. I do believe there is a validation thing going on. Whether its sharing or pure ego stroke. Its still can pump some guys up in their own mind. The more insecure, the more validation they need.




librarysub -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 8:49:12 AM)

It's even possible that He's using it as a way to maintain emotional distance. The not so fun side of being objectified is when the motive is more to turn them off emotionally rather than to turn them on physically. 




sirsholly -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 9:36:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


Lacy-
I was about to reply to your original post when I saw this comment-

quote:

ORIGINAL: lacyshadows
i lost my soldier to the war in april and i can not get over it. i do not see the light at the end of the tunnel. i have master now to forget all my sorrow. i hope that he beats it out of me.
i think it is easier to be dumb then you have no idea what is going on and you do ont care......


And I stopped cold. I can't say what is going on inside you, but forget about having sex with anyone. You need some help, serious professional therapy to deal with what is happening.


i agree. My suggestion is to stop seeing this guy now and get some counseling before you agree to something you may regret.




xssve -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 9:43:18 AM)

As I say, there are myriad reasons for sharing a woman from both the identification and objectification standpoints.

From an identification standpoint, multiple partners is a very common female fantasy, as common among women as it is among men, and in this instance, the dom is acting as facilitator, "making you" do it.

Feelings of inadequacy is another possibility - a strong possibility in this case, i.e., the OP, I'm guessing - it need not mean physical inadequacy, but perhaps he feel as if he's not fulfilling you emotionally.

Otherwise, there are other reasons: he may feel gratified to see you satiated, it can be a form of male bonding, or social bonding in general, etc. i.e., not just for males, it's sometimes an element in gang initiations, and presumably healthier than random acts of violence, polyandry is not uncommon in martial cultures or cultures under harsh environmental stressors, Eskimos, for example.

In the same sense, there are myriad reasons from an objectification standpoint, male bonding works in that respect too, i.e., men often bond by objectifying women verbally, and this can be an extension of that. In another sense, jealousy may be the desired outcome, i.e., it makes him feel more territorial and possessive, and gratifying that even after fucking other men, you still stay with him - from another POV, it might be confronting his worst fears about abandonment a way or testing his doubts about you, and or/ increasing emotional investment through emotional distancing - contradictory seeming, but in some ways it might make him feel closer to you, particularly if he has more sexual experience than you.

From a female perspective, as welll as being a common fantasy, in some senses, it might also be a way for the female to bond with more than one male - from a biological viewpoint, very few mammals are genuinely monogamous, and most female mammals in their fertile phase will typically pair with more than one male; it provides the benefit greater genetic diversity in her offspring, while maintaining a relationship with at least one nurturing male during her off peak - which is quite possibly the source of the urge to begin with.

Pimping, in the literal sense, is generally strictly about economics, whereas even objectification is more likely to very much have an underlying emotional motive.




leadership527 -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/29/2009 9:56:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen
No man is that altruistic except Gandi and Gandi ain't here no more. But maybe GandiĀ  had a cuckolding fantasy at one time or another...
Oh? Says who? One of the actual reasons I considered such a thing is to comfort a friend. Just because men of your acquaintance have limited abilities to care about those around them doesn't mean all do.

Much as I generally really like your posts, how about you stop speaking for "men" seeing as you aren't one and even if you were, you still wouldn't be "men".




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