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badlilthang -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/31/2009 4:26:51 AM)

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She entered into a monogamous relationship with that in mind. She has no inclination to "swing" or "play" or whatever else you want to call it.And all of that is exactly why I demand the authority to have her perform sexually on command with me or anyone I choose, whether or not she knows or likes the person in question.
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ORIGINAL: leadership527

This made me go hmmmm..i got the feeling You changed the rules agreed upon - and that would make me lose trust..i would by no means feel less "His" - even though i had hard limits....one of my hard limits is no sex/play with a Domme...if a Master brought that in as a demand as of a sudden for me to "prove my submission" - knowing that i am in no shape, way or form even slightly bisexual - that would not exactly increase my respect and trust - i would rather be very disappointed and wonder why breaking the hard limits is so important - not to mention why He needs to humiliate and punish me by "forcing" me to do such a thing....just a thought. i am also under the impression that a slave or submissives well being should be important to the Master/Dom...Yes, i know peoples dynamics are different - some would thrive under the fear of having to do something they absolutely detest or is unnatural for them - like sex with the same sex - others again would break down - lose their spirit and possibly break the bond. sex with someone i did not even like would be seriously traumatic - and also considered a severe punishment...not to steal the thread - but would so like Your view on this...s...





SubmissiveOinker -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/31/2009 11:11:58 AM)

This may not be the same thing however I notice people often want to share who they are involved in usually because its their biggest fantasies, once my best friend asked me to have sex with her boyfriend in front of her as I was startled...because I thought it was stange for her not to get jealous. I did follow through and all three of us had wonderful time together. The point is it may turn your Master on to see you with someone else, more than it would make him jealous,the intimacy doesn't have to be taken seriously with someone else,especially if you trust him. Your Master may also be doing this to see how much you would submit, as from my experience many love to test one another.




Wheldrake -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (10/31/2009 11:13:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

perhaps if another man wants his women it validates him????? Strokes the ego that he got the prize and hes so generous hes willing to share???


Mother Theresa wasn't *that* generous.


Damn, now you've got me imagining Gandhi and Mother Teresa as the world's most selfless dom/domme couple... training hot slaves for the sexual enjoyment of the rest of humanity. There's probably a good porn film in there somewhere.

A couple of thoughts on things that have come up in this thread...

People deal with grief in all sorts of ways, some of which can look pretty weird to outsiders. Throwing oneself into some kind of adventure in order to "forget it all" is at least a time-honoured strategy, and submission is definitely an adventure. If it works for the OP, more power to her - unless, of course, she's really a he out for wanking material, as Drifa has been suggesting.

I can imagine lots of good reasons why a dominant man might want to let others have sex with his submissive. To enjoy watching the sex, to show off his property, to demonstrate his control over the woman (to himself, to her, and/or to his lucky friend), to give her an interesting experience, and on and on. Not to mention the fact that some people really are good about sharing their toys, human and otherwise.




kenny4loveall -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (11/6/2009 9:49:00 PM)

so we accept when they say we have sex with anorther




Rastimmipitwax -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (11/6/2009 10:47:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lacyshadows

thank you for the good advice. i am sorry for your loss. i lost my soldier to the war in april and i can not get over it. i do not see the light at the end of the tunnel. i have master now to forget all my sorrow. i hope that he beats it out of me.
i think it is easier to be dumb then you have no idea what is going on and you do ont care......


Assuming this is not utter bullshit:

You do not need a Dominant right now, you need a friend, someone to talk to, and perhaps some kind of grief counsellor or other professional help. The last thing you need is to be shared around by an obviously insensitive wannabe who obviously does not care about you, the way a Dominant should care for his or her sub/slave.

I'm not kidding. I don't type in all caps often on any of the many fora I visit, but:

GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS RELATIONSHIP NOW!

You need to heal before you can function on any level again. Be strong, or find someone to be strong for you, but this isn't the way to get through your loss.

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ORIGINAL: Zechriel
Mmm Because since the dawn of time, men have had that fantasy?


Perhaps some men, maybe even a lot of men, but not all men. Speaking for myself, nobody touches what is mine. And if she should stray on her own, she wasn't really mine in the first place. Not that it has ever happened, but it is without fail the first comment I always get after I share my opinion on sharing.

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ORIGINAL: Drifa
OP's profile. I believe the OP is actually a guy pretending to be a woman, looking for wanking material.


What gives you that idea? I really don't see it, and I am usually fairly perceptive to such things. Or has the profile been altered since you read it?

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ORIGINAL: Wheldrake
People deal with grief in all sorts of ways, some of which can look pretty weird to outsiders. Throwing oneself into some kind of adventure in order to "forget it all" is at least a time-honoured strategy, and submission is definitely an adventure. If it works for the OP, more power to her


With all due respect, however time-honoured the strategy is, it is self-destructive and never really solves the problem. If you are lucky it only buries it to fester until it boils up and overflows even worse than before. If you are lucky.





Drifa -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (11/7/2009 4:54:02 AM)

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Rastimmipitwax said:

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ORIGINAL: Drifa
OP's profile. I believe the OP is actually a guy pretending to be a woman, looking for wanking material.


What gives you that idea? I really don't see it, and I am usually fairly perceptive to such things. Or has the profile been altered since you read it?


Um, lacyshadows profile is unchanged since I first looked at it:

There is almost nothing in the profile. The person joined on 10/17 and has not been back since 10/20. And the ONLY info in the profile states:
"I am looking for a submissive female to help me learn how to serve my master better.  I would like to make friends with submissive women to find out what works and to trade stories about her adventures and mine."
That paragraph says the OP is looking for "stories of sexual adventure", which to me is a blatant request for wanking material.

Then lacyshadows appears to have noticed something in the signature block of another poster (I think it was sweetsub1957, but that's changed now) indicating that their dominant had passed away. In response, we got this:

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ORIGINAL: lacyshadows
thank you for the good advice. i am sorry for your loss. i lost my soldier to the war in april and i can not get over it. i do not see the light at the end of the tunnel. i have master now to forget all my sorrow. i hope that he beats it out of me.
i think it is easier to be dumb then you have no idea what is going on and you do ont care......



I really find it odd that she could have sustained this loss 3 months prior, and yet already be in a TPE in which her master is requiring her to have sex with other people for his amusement, while at the same time trolling around asking for stories of other sub's sexual adventures.

What this adds up to, for me, is a manipulative barstid who wants wanking material, and when no one provided it left for greener pastures.




Rochsub2009 -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (11/7/2009 8:09:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lacyshadows
why does my master want to have sex w another man so that he can watch? why does he get off of this and is not jealous? i will do it i jsut want tunerstand why.


Lots of people have responded to this thread, but i have a perspective that is a bit different, so i thought i'd share it.

Personally, it think this is one of the most delicate and questionable areas of D/s relationships.  There are so many psychological effects that can occur because of it.  It is a path that should be walked delicately and with complete agreement by all parties involved.  It is not a scene that should be forced.  i know that some Doms/Dommes think that exercising "complete control" over their property is a right that They possess.  i don't agree.  Particularly in this area.

i was once asked to perform in a scene like this.  i was serving a Domme who also had 2 female subs.  i had met the female subs before, but had never been asked to participate in a scene with either of them.  Well, one day my Domme told me that She wanted to see me play with one of Her female subs.

At the appointed time, i showed up and was taken to the dungeon where the female sub was already there naked.  My Domme gave a big speech about how She was going to make the female sub a "slave to black cock".  She proceeded to command the female sub to beg me to f*ck her with my "big black cock".

Two things struck me immediately.  Firstly, my Domme had not asked me for any type of STD report, nor had She provided me with one for the female sub.  Secondly, She did not provide any condoms.  This made me greatly concerned.

As the scene progressed, the female sub began to cry.  She cried as she begged for my "big black cock", and she cried even harder when Mistress instructed me to take her.  She was crying and shaking uncontrollably.  i expected my Mistress to bring the scene to a halt, but She simply sat back and waited for the scene to unfold.

Perhaps the submissive female had expressed an interest in being with a black male, and my Domme was merely trying to fulfill her fantasy.  However, this just didn't feel right.  The uncontrollable crying made it feel like rape.  i don't know the exact legal ramifications of an incident like this, but i didn't want to find out.

i grabbed the female sub from behind (my Domme had made her get on all fours, and told me to take her doggy style), expecting my Domme to bring the scene to a halt.  But She didn't.  So i did.  i refused to continue with the scene. 

My concerns for both of our health (due to potential STD's) was secondary to the mental scarring that i thought might result from this act.  The female sub was literally shaking and bawling.  i also feared a resultant rape charge.

i would recommend that any Doms/Dommes who are into this type of scene make sure that the subs who are involved are completely in agreement with it.  Otherwise, it seems uncomfortably close to rape.  Also, please be cautious about the physical health of Your subs.  Make sure that condoms are used 100% of the time.  Using a sub as a "breeder" is a fantasy.  It is not something that should actually be attempted with some of the deadly STD's that are out there.

Sorry for the long message, but i thought this experience was worth sharing.  IMO, some fantasies should strictly remain fantasies.




LadyPact -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (11/7/2009 8:55:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lacyshadows

thank you for the good advice. i am sorry for your loss. i lost my soldier to the war in april and i can not get over it. i do not see the light at the end of the tunnel.


I am curious to know why the OP has not sought out grief counseling related to the services offered to military families.




dolly1976 -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/6/2010 12:39:21 PM)

My masters and I agreement is that I am not to be shared with men. However one night when a friend of masters visited who was recently divorced and doing it tough. I offered myself to him for master. I don't know why I did that, master said no. then I said I will wear my Chastity belt, master said if I only 100% wanted to go through with it. I then took masters friend to bed and made in come. Master told me to return to our bed after and have a shower. After which we made love and master ensured I came good and hard before coming himself. I have repeated this a few times for some of masters friends, but I have right of refusal.




xxblushesxx -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/6/2010 1:39:05 PM)

And you brought up an old thread just to tell us about this?

thanks.




KatyLied -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/6/2010 2:02:04 PM)

Now Christina, come on, let the girl brag a little.    [:D]




KatyLied -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/6/2010 2:03:50 PM)

wait, her profile states she is not shared, I call foul!




winterlight -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/6/2010 3:15:35 PM)

Condoms break and then what?




Firebirdseeking -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/6/2010 6:06:27 PM)

I dont think taking away your slave's integrity means you "own" her.  Quite the opposite.  You run the risk of losing her.




kittinSol -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/6/2010 6:14:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lacyshadows

why does my master want to have sex w another man so that he can watch? why does he get off of this and is not jealous?



Because he has latent homosexual desires, and your fucking another man while he watches allows him to fuck him by proxy.




sunshinemiss -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/6/2010 6:33:09 PM)

It's only 3 months old, so at least it isn't a thread from 2005!

However, I did have to be a little bit... ummmm... helpful.

My masters and I (My master's and my) agreement is that I am not to be shared with (other - not really necessary, but helpful) men. However(,) one night when a friend of masters (Master - we capitalize here because you are using it as a proper noun - that is, his name. You could say "when a friend of Master" or "when Master's friend") visited who was recently divorced and doing it tough (This is a sentence fragment. You have no subject or verb. Perhaps you meant a comma and not a period) . I offered myself to him for master(again, captalize "Master".) . I don't know why I did that, (semicolon, not comma - you have two complete and related sentences. And of course the capitalizing of Master) master said no. (Do you need to have the info to capitalize the first letter in a sentence? I think this is just a typo, so it can slide) then I said I will ("would", not will) wear my Chastity (was this made by Chastity Bono? No? Then it is not a proper noun and ought not be capitalized) belt, (semi colon again, although I would have brokent his into two sentences. Either would be correct) master (Capitalize) said if I only 100% wanted to go through with it. I then took masters ( Capitalize and apostrophe 's') friend to bed and made in (him) come. Master told me to return to our bed after and have a shower. (I want a shower in my bed too!) After which ("Which" at the beginning of a sentence is a question word. You are using it as a relative pronoun. "Which" is a tricky one. You probably meant "After that") we made love (comma, please) and master (Capital) ensured I came good and hard before coming himself. I have repeated this a few times for some of masters (Capitalize and apostrophe 's') friends, but I have (the) right of refusal.



No charge. Really.




sleepingbeauty2 -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/6/2010 7:22:40 PM)

A good Master will do what's best for both of you. Just remember that.




LadyOddsworth -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/7/2010 4:07:55 PM)

Not my cup of tea.




itsmeinLV -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/7/2010 4:47:59 PM)

I think it might be the thought and feelings along the lines of "she is mine and here are other men desiring what I own" kind of thing.  Make other people jealous of what we have?  Makes sense...at least to me, haha [;)]




wittynamehere -> RE: why does my master want me to have sex with another man (2/7/2010 4:57:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lacyshadows
why does my master want me to have sex w another man?

Why don't you give us his contact info, and we'll ask him, and then get back to you with his answer?




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