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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

The refusal of the other networks to participate in an interview session that Fox was denied access to was a nice statement to the administration.  It doesn't seem to be getting spun that way (yet) in the few reports I've seen, but that was a pretty direct rejection of the "and you ought not treat them as a news organization, either" statement/threat.

So, does that mean the other networks are not the liberally-biased, conservative-hating organizations that the right has been claiming for years?

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I'm still curious about your methodology to come up with that ridiculous notion that the Collarchat forums consist of 12 conservatives, 13 liberals, and one neutral.  (I, of course, would be the neutral  )

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The refusal of the other networks to participate in an interview session that Fox was denied access to was a nice statement to the administration.  It doesn't seem to be getting spun that way (yet) in the few reports I've seen, but that was a pretty direct rejection of the "and you ought not treat them as a news organization, either" statement/threat.

So, does that mean the other networks are not the liberally-biased, conservative-hating organizations that the right has been claiming for years?

No.  What makes you ask such a nonsensical question?

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With the alternate possibility that you have missed my meaning altogether... 

Wanna try again, maybe without putting words in my mouth? 

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I only asked a direct question.

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Certainly not all of us though. Most of us were just suspicious of the agenda when this crowd came in and have seen nothing yet to allay the suspicion that this administration is doing its best to move a capitalistic country to a socialist model.
Social issues such as who fucks who or who marries who? Who cares? Not me. But take more and more of my money to help those who won't help themselves or who feel that I somehow...by being white, by being college-educated, by having two parents who stayed together, something...got a break that they did not? That pisses me off and I'm tired of it.
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The ruling class of this country has always used the ability to divide the majority to it's advantage and it's sad to see how well it's worked. The model of the "lazy bums who won't help themselves" is a myth used very well to the advantage of those who want to protect their inherited wealth. All you have to do is find a couple of welfare cheats, or a drug addict getting something from the government and there you have it, proof that the money of the "working people" is being taken to support the undeserving.

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If the right wing actually took any less of the money that the average working person made, I might be far more sympathetic. However, the current trends show a revers Robin Hood model. They steal from the middle class to give to the rich. While they do so, they talk meaningless phrases about smaller government and less taxation and some follow along as if that was really a likely outcome.

There are far more people who are just looking for a level playing field than a handout. It is a shame that that is overlooked in this "I don't want to help the undeserving" mindset.

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The refusal of the other networks to participate in an interview session that Fox was denied access to was a nice statement to the administration.  It doesn't seem to be getting spun that way (yet) in the few reports I've seen, but that was a pretty direct rejection of the "and you ought not treat them as a news organization, either" statement/threat.

So, does that mean the other networks are not the liberally-biased, conservative-hating organizations that the right has been claiming for years?

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In cable, the evidence firmly suggests there now really is an ideological divide between two of the three channels, at least in their coverage of the campaign.
Things look much better for Barack Obama—and much worse for John McCain—on MSNBC than in most other news outlets. On the Fox News Channel, the coverage of the presidential candidates is something of a mirror image of that seen on MSNBC.
The tone of CNN’s coverage, meanwhile, lay somewhere in the middle of the cable spectrum, and was generally more negative than the press overall.

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So, does that mean the other networks are not the liberally-biased, conservative-hating organizations that the right has been claiming for years?

No, it means they were smart enough in a business sense to realize that if it is FOX today, it could be them tomorrow.

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The model of the "lazy bums who won't help themselves" is a myth used very well to the advantage of those who want to protect their inherited wealth.

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Bush did the same thing. 

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Bush did the same thing. 

Bullshit, RML.  Complete, utter, made up bullshit.  Denying an interview request (or just ignoring it) is in no way comparable to the now FAILED attempt of this administration to cull Fox from the pool.  Neither is any other petty bit of whatever you manage to google up.  The Obama Administration tried to declare a whole fucking network (the highest rated cable one) persona non grata, tried to bully the other networks into following their lead, and got shot down in humiliating fashion. 

Bush did not do the same thing.  That is a lie.  It is a stupid lie.  Why do you base your arguments on such stupid lies?

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Surely...with all the laws against discrimination based on race/gender/religion in the fields of employment and education, with programs and organizations such as the Equal Opportunity Act, Title IX, the Negro Scholarship Fund, the NAACP, N.O.W. and on and on and on, you aren't going to tell me that the field still isn't level enough? Unless you advocate taking away companies, organizations, wealth from individuals who either built it themselves or whose families built it and redistributing it? Unless you advocate just kicking out the heads of companies and replacing them with women or minorities not based on their merits but simply on their gender or race?
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Favored, RML. Not attempted to blackball. Don't try to rewrite the original. It was your fucking OP.

Spin away, though. Free speech is a wonderful thing.
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Favored, RML.  Not attempted to blackball. Don't try to rewrite the original.  It was your fucking OP.

Spin away, though.  Free speech is a wonderful thing.