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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
But what I'm curious about is where this whole victim mentality,

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-Fast reply-

I wonder how long Bush will be the excuse for the Obama-ites...

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I've never been a big fan of Fox News but I really wonder what has the Obama administration so scared of them. Fox must be saying something right they don't like. So far the Obama camp has done absolutely nothing to actually show what Fox has done that is so bad, other than not kissing Obama's ass on everything like MSNBC does, and CNN has done many times in the past.

To be fair, they have said much worse things about Obama (through Limbaugh) than the Dixie Chicks ever did about Bush, and look what happened to them.
Maybe Obama's just narked about the absence of this liberal media conspiracy that Bush spent most of his eight years in office whining about?

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Whatever database meets your needs, RML.  You have fun with that.  I'm not even going to approach a discussion of how to specifically divide and define the core of regular drunks around this checkers board and woodstove (26 by your count, huh?).  

Want to explain your methodology?

Just basing it on this thread, and it seems pretty easy to divide the viewpoints.

I think you could pick most any thread at random and find similar results.

But what I'm curious about is where this whole victim mentality, we're outnumbered and everyone is always picking on us, comes from.

Because it's not just on these boards, it's everywhere you look lately, from Fox News to conservative websites.

I'm almost starting to feel sorry for you guys myself.

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That pisses me off and I'm tired of it.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
That pisses me off and I'm tired of it.

Poor you  .

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White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

A White House effort to undermine conservative critics is generating a backlash on Capitol Hill — and not just from Republicans.


“It’s a mistake,” said Rep. Jason Altmire, a moderate Democrat from western Pennsylvania. “I think it’s beneath the White House to get into a tit for tat with news organizations.”


Altmire was talking about the Obama administration’s efforts to undercut Fox News. But he said his remarks applied just the same to White House efforts to marginalize the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a powerful business lobby targeted for its opposition to climate change legislation.


“There’s no reason to gratuitously piss off all those companies,” added another Democrat, Rep. Jim Moran of Virginia. “The Chamber isn’t an opponent.”

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Congressional Republicans counterattacked Thursday. House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said the administration was “targeting those who don’t immediately fall in line” with “Chicago-style politics” aimed at “shutting the American people out and demonizing their opponents.”


Boehner’s No. 2, Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) complained that the nation’s problems are growing while the White House “bickers with a cable news network.”


Liberal Democrats have little heartburn over the administration’s attacks on Fox and Limbaugh. But the attacks make moderates uneasy — especially when they extend to the Chamber of Commerce.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28638.html

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...Speaking privately at the White House on Monday with a group of mostly liberal columnists and commentators, including Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann of MSNBC and Maureen Dowd, Frank Rich and Bob Herbert of The New York Times, Mr. Obama himself gave vent to sentiments about the network, according to people briefed on the conversation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/us/politics/23fox.html

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That pisses me off and I'm tired of it.

Poor you  .

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


According to the New York Times, Barack Obama is consulting with Kieth Obermann and Rachel Maddow on how best to deal with the Fox news network:

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...Speaking privately at the White House on Monday with a group of mostly liberal columnists and commentators, including Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann of MSNBC and Maureen Dowd, Frank Rich and Bob Herbert of The New York Times, Mr. Obama himself gave vent to sentiments about the network, according to people briefed on the conversation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/us/politics/23fox.html

I guess it isn't opinion oriented journalism that the president minds so much as journalists who get out of line where they presumably belong.

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Certainly not all of us though. Most of us were just suspicious of the agenda when this crowd came in and have seen nothing yet to allay the suspicion that this administration is doing its best to move a capitalistic country to a socialist model.
Social issues such as who fucks who or who marries who? Who cares? Not me. But take more and more of my money to help those who won't help themselves or who feel that I somehow...by being white, by being college-educated, by having two parents who stayed together, something...got a break that they did not? That pisses me off and I'm tired of it.
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They steal from the middle class to give to the rich. While they do so, they talk meaningless phrases about smaller government and less taxation and some follow along as if that was really a likely outcome.

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And yet the proportion of taxes paid by the upper brackets continually increases. Its magic. ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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And yet the proportion of taxes paid by the upper brackets continually increases. Its magic. ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

It's not magic in the least. As the percentage of the wealth owned by the top 5% increases and the percentage owned by the rest of us decreases, of course they pay a higher percentage of the total tax revenue. It does not mean the middle class is not being warred upon nor that the 5% being put upon. It just means you can't get blood out of a stone.

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Your original statement appears to be referring to taxes, period. If you want to debate whether or not there is some other "stealing" going on, support it by something other than income taxes, because there you fail. ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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Finally! We all agree: Fox News isn't news. Glad we got that one sorted out.

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The model of the "lazy bums who won't help themselves" is a myth…

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The refusal of the other networks to participate in an interview session that Fox was denied access to was a nice statement to the administration.  It doesn't seem to be getting spun that way (yet) in the few reports I've seen, but that was a pretty direct rejection of the "and you ought not treat them as a news organization, either" statement/threat.