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Surrenderwithin -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/19/2009 10:46:48 PM)
I understand the use of labels and even the need for them on a very basic level. However, nothing replaces communicating with people, getting to know others, and making bonds. If I am not interested enough in a person to do that then I do not see much point as giving myself a label for them. Maggi 25Nz points ps Annabelle that is a perfect description of who you are!

daintydimples -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/20/2009 4:52:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf you've just used several words that at one time were coined to discribe what you are saying Yes, I know. I had a point there, but perhaps I was far too subtle. Labeling a person does not help you get to know them. You need to learn how to converse, person to person.

GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/20/2009 5:05:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelaine oh i get it! this is the pc twist on those "hello cunt" greetings. porcelaine CUNT...from the olde ENGLISH cunnet...cunning..CUNNET ( knowledge)...river..now the KENNET where Priestesses of the Goddess danced by their wells. Priests of the new religion called them "vile cunts"and cunnets..forever diabolizing a sacred word.. kunte//Africa(earth)...cunabula(cradle)Italian.. TAKE IT BACK... * Women's Dictionary of signs and symbols.. viva la CUNT GM

osf -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/20/2009 6:22:53 AM)
but if they self identify with the labels i use it's a great time saver so all this argument aside if no one self identifys with my labels i'm wasteing my time and it is my time to waste and you obviously dont, so we know something already

porcelaine -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/20/2009 10:19:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf so all this argument aside if no one self identifys with my labels i'm wasteing my time and it is my time to waste and you obviously dont, so we know something already and of course this thread allows you to get your message out to the masses without the headache of sending those nifty introductions that go unanswered. i suppose that's thinking outside the box. [;)] porcelaine

osf -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/20/2009 10:50:48 AM)
i must be dum, i never thought of that

Andalusite -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 8:17:50 AM)
Umm, we just had a discussion about this over in General BDSM, suggesting that people use "minion," "peon," and other terms. Of course, he'd still search for women who are in the "submissive" and "slave" categories here, since those include all s-oriented folks as well as bottoms, masochists, and so forth. Sure, he's using an adjective as a noun, but we do that with "submissive" as well, no big deal. My interpretation of the term is that it would imply that the focus is on obedience and service over mindset. Back when I was dating, I could have chosen to be in that kind of relationship with someone, even if I didn't react to them submissively, if we were compatible in most BDSM and vanilla contexts. If I didn't react to someone on a D/s or M/s level, it would have been a lie to claim to be their submissive or slave, even if I enjoyed bottoming to, serving, and obeying him.

osf -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 8:46:22 AM)
close, even full blown subs/slaves dont feel that way all the time but not feeling like it doesn't mean she shouldn't obey none the less i like the monastical concept of a " calling ", being obedient is what she is called to do even in those times she would rather not

Acer49 -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 8:49:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cillydom I’m not seeking a submissive and I’m not seeking a slave, I am seeking an obedient. For me, it would be much simplier to list the various attributes I desire and do not deisre rather than attept to create another label that will require clarification

porcelaine -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 9:01:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf close, even full blown subs/slaves dont feel that way all the time but not feeling like it doesn't mean she shouldn't obey none the less i like the monastical concept of a " calling ", being obedient is what she is called to do even in those times she would rather not which is a paradox. in order to cede control and serve in the capacity as a slave one must be willing to be obedient to the Owner. it is commonplace for obedience to be one of the motivating factors that influence her desire to serve. she isn't a slave because she affixed the label to herself, but simply because she yields and does so even when she may wish to behave otherwise. His will exceeds her own. now whether you elect to term that obedient or not is a mystery. as a matter of fact many of the slaves i converse with see their slavery in the manner you just described. i refer to it as my zen, another calls it her vocation. we both have an innate need to be obedient to our Owners. porcelaine

mnottertail -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 9:04:35 AM)
OP a ceding, acquiescent, servile, called to service, (female/male), obedient, obeisant, ....... fuck it, how about slave or submissive or something a little more brief and work out the details of it by conversation with your prospects? Curiously, Ron

osf -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 12:11:33 PM)
i really dislike the term slave, because it has no common definition, no legal standing, and there are too bloody many calling themselves slaves cause they wanna be one of the cool girls and before i waste a lot of my time, their time i want it understood what i expect i dislike the terms scene, play, bdsm, i dont like to punish as i see that as a failure on both parts, hers and mine. if i want ti hit her i'll hit her because i want to and it's my right i dislike the term power to control. it,s my right to control no power needed, i dont like power strugles, i'm not out to conquor. if her attitude is she wants a dom to subdue her, im not for her. my vision is that we are what we say we are all the times, sometimes more intencely so than other times but it's always there. i dont like makeing a game out of it, i dont really like floggers and a toy bag bigger than i am. i dont like a bunch of rules, few and simple, and strictly enforced. i dislike misscomunication and confusion, if there's a question she is always free to ask, there is no penalty for asking. and i fking hate gor

mnottertail -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 12:14:14 PM)
Well, how about hot, molten, dripping, mons veneris; for her, and Mr HatePenis for you? Ron

LaTigresse -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 12:30:21 PM)
Oh damn Ron, reading that, just as I was sneezing, was a whole new life experience.

porcelaine -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 12:30:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf i really dislike the term slave, because it has no common definition, no legal standing, and there are too bloody many calling themselves slaves cause they wanna be one of the cool girls and the reverse is true with dominant and master as well. is it not? quote: and before i waste a lot of my time, their time i want it understood what i expect i don't think spelling out your desires is a waste of time. finding out it isn't suitable six months in would be. i believe in laying things out at the start. quote: if i want ti hit her i'll hit her because i want to and it's my right. we agree here. quote: i dislike the term power to control. it,s my right to control no power needed, i dont like power strugles, i'm not out to conquor. if her attitude is she wants a dom to subdue her, im not for her. she sounds very slavish. just saying. quote: my vision is that we are what we say we are all the times, sometimes more intencely so than other times but it's always there. i don't see a slave arguing with this. at least not the ones i converse with. quote: i dont like a bunch of rules, few and simple, and strictly enforced. you enforce. she obeys. real simple to me. assuming you've conveyed them clearly. quote: i dislike misscomunication and confusion, if there's a question she is always free to ask, there is no penalty for asking. which should be communicated to her upfront because there's so much information out there on this subject alone the supposed rules can be very confusing. quote: and i fking hate gor i don't hate it. but i think each path has something that i can learn from. so i did take time to read a bit for my own curiosity. porcelaine

JohnWarren -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 12:33:14 PM)
Guess there's a lot of stuff you don't like.

osf -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 12:49:11 PM)
ive never thought of myself as master, never even applied for the merrit badge

windchymes -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 3:33:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse Oh damn Ron, reading that, just as I was sneezing, was a whole new life experience. I want what she's having.....

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 3:51:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelaine oh i get it! this is the pc twist on those "hello cunt" greetings. i suppose substituting obedient rather than utilizing girl/slave/bitch would be a tad more original. [;)] porcelaine I prefer the "Hello cunt" ones, call me oldfashioned but I prefer the classics

porcelaine -> RE: Coining new phrase about what I want (10/21/2009 4:30:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth I prefer the "Hello cunt" ones, call me oldfashioned but I prefer the classics sorry, i'm selectively whorish. i'd be offended. porcelaine

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