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lovingpet -> When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 6:08:41 PM)

Before I even start, please just let me say I am pretty upset and really having a rough go this evening. I may wind up being nasty or whiney or whatever, but I really just need to express this the best I can and get some insights from those that have been where I am or are sitting in the middle of such a storm. Before it even gets said, of course I will be talking to my partner about all this. It is going to be probably one of the most difficult, intimate, and bonding talks we have ever had and will be what will finally settle me and help me come back to peace.

Does anyone else ever get to the point where everything just feels like way too much? Maybe it's that your dominance or submission seems to shut doors. Perhaps you wake up one morning to see horrific marks you never intended to endure, or are the one facing what you have done to another human being in the cold light of day. Does it ever bother you how much control you have given up or scare you that you have been entrusted with so much of another person's life? It might be that the fetishes just seem so out there and sick. Perhaps you even begin to question your own sanity as you contemplate some massive upheaval of even some very core beliefs and ways of life. Maybe who you are or what you want just scare the everloving fucking shit out of you. I'm not going to ask if anyone else goes through those times, but I have to wonder at moments like this one tonight how to get through it.

This is where I am. Nearly ever last one of those senarios I listed apply to me, this time in my life, and how I feel. I feel like I am cracking under the weight of it all and I don't know what to do. I am panicked somehow. I am sickened by myself. I fear what the future holds. I feel like my whole world is about to come undone. Where to does a person go from this place? How do you reconsile with yourself? How am I supposed to look myself in the mirror again?

Please be kind. I don't have it in me deal with heartless replies. If you never have struggled with this or it doesn't resonate with you, please do us both a favor and don't bother answering. I really don't need anything else to feel worse about right now. Many here have come to be my friends from afar, many whom I respect greatly. I will appreciate the support on a night and a time like this. Thanks so much.

lovingpet




GoddessImaginos -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 6:14:22 PM)

I am there with you, sister, not merely wherein all the specific concerns of this lifestyle lie, but much if not most of the rest of my life also. Please CM me if you need to talk - it's nice to know that neither of us is alone, yes?
But for the moment, a hot shower summons. If I don't get right back to you, I will as soon as I am able.
Love and Peace. All will be well.




windchymes -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 6:17:19 PM)

I'll just answer your "how to get through it" question, rather than offer up a whole bunch of advice :)

Time passing has gotten me through pretty much all the rough patches in life.  Just get the time to go by by sleeping, staring at mindless tv, reading bad books, doing crossword puzzles, whatever helps you sort of "withdraw" and go internal, go to the girl cave :)   I've always found that sometimes even after just one good long night of sleep or just hearing some kind or reassuring words from someone special, things don't seem so bad, even if it's just a little bit not so bad.

"This too shall pass" is a good saying.  It's true.  And I always tell myself, "just get through the day" or the week, or maybe the next few months.  At least that way, it feels like there is an endin sight.

Hang in there, we love ya here [:)]




lovingpet -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 6:34:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessImaginos

I am there with you, sister, not merely wherein all the specific concerns of this lifestyle lie, but much if not most of the rest of my life also. Please CM me if you need to talk - it's nice to know that neither of us is alone, yes?
But for the moment, a hot shower summons. If I don't get right back to you, I will as soon as I am able.
Love and Peace. All will be well.


Indeed Divine one. Like you, it is not just things here (though it is a big part of it tonight), but just the overall life picture that gets to me every now and then. I don't know if I'll get to Cmail, but I know where there is an open box. *hugs*

lovingpet




lovingpet -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 6:36:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

I'll just answer your "how to get through it" question, rather than offer up a whole bunch of advice :)

Time passing has gotten me through pretty much all the rough patches in life.  Just get the time to go by by sleeping, staring at mindless tv, reading bad books, doing crossword puzzles, whatever helps you sort of "withdraw" and go internal, go to the girl cave :)   I've always found that sometimes even after just one good long night of sleep or just hearing some kind or reassuring words from someone special, things don't seem so bad, even if it's just a little bit not so bad.

"This too shall pass" is a good saying.  It's true.  And I always tell myself, "just get through the day" or the week, or maybe the next few months.  At least that way, it feels like there is an endin sight.

Hang in there, we love ya here [:)]


Yeah, I think that's half the point of this thread is just keeping busy with good company until I can get settled down. I appreciate it. And it's always good to be loved! *hugs* (Okay so I am the huggie bandit when I'm down [8D])

lovingpet




DavanKael -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 7:03:16 PM)

Hi, lovingpet----
and < hugs >. 
I don't know that I have had a darkight of the soul related to power dynamics stuff (ith the exception of the lack there-of) but surely understand more broad dark nights of the soul and the 'wtf has my life become?!' moments.  They suck.  My mantra is that I walk on, when I can not walk, I crawl until I can stand again, then I walk on.  It may seem a tedium but it's also a dogged determination when things just weigh too heavily. 
You often offer very sage advice to folks about hanging in there and I am going to say the same thing to you: let time and good efforts lift the darkness.  You have an inner light; while you may lose sight of it sometimes, it's there. 
  Davan




Aileen1968 -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 7:05:27 PM)

I don't overanalyze things in my life.
If I'm happy then I take it to the max and enjoy every second without trying to figure out why.
If I'm sad then I try different things to change that into happiness.
Once that happens then I revert back to the happy rule.

The negative things in your life only have as much control as you let them.




porcelaine -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 7:13:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingpet

This is where I am. Nearly ever last one of those senarios I listed apply to me, this time in my life, and how I feel. I feel like I am cracking under the weight of it all and I don't know what to do. I am panicked somehow. I am sickened by myself. I fear what the future holds. I feel like my whole world is about to come undone. Where to does a person go from this place? How do you reconsile with yourself? How am I supposed to look myself in the mirror again?


yes i have felt like this in the past and i was very unsettled like you are right now. i cried and my emotions were all over the place. i didn't know what was happening then but finally managed to settle myself. i found solace in silence and by turning inward and facing the things that were causing my discomfort. in my case it had to do with surrender and all that i'd be losing. we've spoken intimately enough for you to understand what i mean by this. we say the words and bubble with excitement and then reality starts to creep inside our minds and the teetering begins. in all honesty you will endure this more than once. the frequency of such truthfully depends on you. i reached out in the past but when i experience it now i shut everyone out and turn inward to realign myself.

it isn't anything external, but things inside of you that only you can calm. i'm sure he will do everything in his power to make you feel settled and safe, but you have to work at it as well. i have spoken to you about the sufferance and the ache. embrace it and visualize him when you do. don't fight the emotional tide, let it happen so you can release these feelings and draw strength from your ability to withstand them. i have a few methods i utilized that might be helpful for you. we can discuss them later if you'd like.

i can promise you this. it does get better, but the twinges will continue until you find your legs and realize that swaying won't topple you at all. as difficult as this moment is it brings forth many things that take you places i know you're longing to go. be patient and know you're not alone, even when it feels as such.

*kisses your forehead and smiles softly*

porcelaine
xoxo




littlewonder -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 8:08:25 PM)

I only ever felt like this in my last relationship because we were so completely mismatched and every moment longer I spent with him the worse I felt about myself but it wasn't because of my submission to him or how much control I gave to him but because we simply were incompatible and I was thoroughly unhappy.

At that point it just all came to a screeching halt when  he finally crossed the lines of my morals and ethics and the relationship ended.

With my current Master I can't ever say I've felt that way because I try my best to keep the lines of communication open and when I'm feeling something I make it known to him in the best way I can. We talk about it and we move on. He's yet to disappoint me when it comes to that. With him my submission just flows freely and comfortably.

If you're struggling with your submission or how much control you've given over then you need to ask yourself if this is truly what you desire. Do you feel comfortable with what you are doing? What is it that bothers you about it and why?

There are questions you need to ask yourself before you can talk to your partner even.




playfulotter -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 8:10:38 PM)

All I can say "lovingpet" is that you should think of yourself as the biggest priority and you are the only one who can make yourself happy. As far as we all know implicitly we only live once....well I think that way anyway...and for each of us contentment comes in a different package and you just have to find yours. Thanks again for the advice you gave me a few weeks ago!




lovingpet -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 8:13:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DavanKael

Hi, lovingpet----
and < hugs >. 
I don't know that I have had a darkight of the soul related to power dynamics stuff (ith the exception of the lack there-of) but surely understand more broad dark nights of the soul and the 'wtf has my life become?!' moments.  They suck.  My mantra is that I walk on, when I can not walk, I crawl until I can stand again, then I walk on.  It may seem a tedium but it's also a dogged determination when things just weigh too heavily. 
You often offer very sage advice to folks about hanging in there and I am going to say the same thing to you: let time and good efforts lift the darkness.  You have an inner light; while you may lose sight of it sometimes, it's there. 
  Davan


Thank you Davan. I know I will survive this just like so many trials before. I don't see that light right now, but I know it's there. I guess when I said I would walk through fire for him, I get to back that up now. You words mean a lot. *hugs*

lovingpet




DesFIP -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 8:17:35 PM)

Early on he hit an emotional trigger that left me unable to handle anything. So he didn't make me have to. We went all the way back to the beginning. Just cuddling and hugs and soft sex. And it might have been a good six months before I could get back to anything we had been doing.

But the relationship is more important to us than the activities. And if I'm not happy, then the relationship isn't going to go well. So we stop doing the things that make either of us feel bad and we do more sensual stuff.

I think this is what happens when you're an adrenaline junkie, so to speak, you need bigger and bigger thrills to get the same jolt. What I can say is that if you quit doing anything then in six months a simply erotic spanking will be overwhelming. And maybe, to stay sane, you need to take those breaks so you can go back to the beginning.

It's the difference between being content hiking two miles on the same trail every day, noticing what flowers are blooming, which trees are changing colors, and people who need a bigger challenge so they're off planning tougher hikes and climbs until there they are at base camp at Everest. And have no place else to go.




catize -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 8:20:19 PM)

I don’t know what to tell ya.  I don’t think re-evaluating your life is a bad thing, but you need to be calm while you are doing that; calm and brutally honest with yourself. 
Ask yourself is your panic from something in the here and now, or are you reacting to old stuff that somehow has been triggered?  Is this feeling that it is too much a sudden thing or has it been brewing? Why now, why tonight?
One of the best quotes I have ever used, from Who Moved the Cheese?  “If I wasn’t afraid, what would I do?” 
I hope you can talk it out and work it through.




lovingpet -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 8:22:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

I don't overanalyze things in my life.
If I'm happy then I take it to the max and enjoy every second without trying to figure out why.
If I'm sad then I try different things to change that into happiness.
Once that happens then I revert back to the happy rule.

The negative things in your life only have as much control as you let them.


The thing is I am so very happy. This is not me and not remotely the tone of our relationship. I am still new to all this and we find ourselves up against these issues frequently just simply because I am still finding myself in a lot of different areas. Like others before it, I know this time will pass and we will emerge stronger and more deeply bonded. Then we can go back to the happy rule! [:)]

lovingpet




lovingpet -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 8:32:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: porcelaine

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingpet

This is where I am. Nearly ever last one of those senarios I listed apply to me, this time in my life, and how I feel. I feel like I am cracking under the weight of it all and I don't know what to do. I am panicked somehow. I am sickened by myself. I fear what the future holds. I feel like my whole world is about to come undone. Where to does a person go from this place? How do you reconsile with yourself? How am I supposed to look myself in the mirror again?


yes i have felt like this in the past and i was very unsettled like you are right now. i cried and my emotions were all over the place. i didn't know what was happening then but finally managed to settle myself. i found solace in silence and by turning inward and facing the things that were causing my discomfort. in my case it had to do with surrender and all that i'd be losing. we've spoken intimately enough for you to understand what i mean by this. we say the words and bubble with excitement and then reality starts to creep inside our minds and the teetering begins. in all honesty you will endure this more than once. the frequency of such truthfully depends on you. i reached out in the past but when i experience it now i shut everyone out and turn inward to realign myself.

it isn't anything external, but things inside of you that only you can calm. i'm sure he will do everything in his power to make you feel settled and safe, but you have to work at it as well. i have spoken to you about the sufferance and the ache. embrace it and visualize him when you do. don't fight the emotional tide, let it happen so you can release these feelings and draw strength from your ability to withstand them. i have a few methods i utilized that might be helpful for you. we can discuss them later if you'd like.

i can promise you this. it does get better, but the twinges will continue until you find your legs and realize that swaying won't topple you at all. as difficult as this moment is it brings forth many things that take you places i know you're longing to go. be patient and know you're not alone, even when it feels as such.

*kisses your forehead and smiles softly*

porcelaine
xoxo



This all made a lot of sense to me and really spoke to that place I am in right now. My box will be busy on the other side. Thank you for some of that safe space I need to work things out.

lovingpet




lovingpet -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 8:44:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I only ever felt like this in my last relationship because we were so completely mismatched and every moment longer I spent with him the worse I felt about myself but it wasn't because of my submission to him or how much control I gave to him but because we simply were incompatible and I was thoroughly unhappy.

At that point it just all came to a screeching halt when  he finally crossed the lines of my morals and ethics and the relationship ended.

With my current Master I can't ever say I've felt that way because I try my best to keep the lines of communication open and when I'm feeling something I make it known to him in the best way I can. We talk about it and we move on. He's yet to disappoint me when it comes to that. With him my submission just flows freely and comfortably.

If you're struggling with your submission or how much control you've given over then you need to ask yourself if this is truly what you desire. Do you feel comfortable with what you are doing? What is it that bothers you about it and why?

There are questions you need to ask yourself before you can talk to your partner even.


That's just the thing. We have done and continue to do all the hard work and soul searching to make sure we really are compatible and meeting each other's needs without compromising that core that is precious to each of us. I am happy with him and comfortable in his hand. Part of it is the fact that I really am very new and it shows from time to time.

There are some issues that are kind of big that we are working through together. There are some real considerations that have to be addressed, but again we are doing those hard parts. I don't know why I have to get all spun up on occasion, but he handles it well and these things tend to draw us closer.

What you talked about is a fear that crops up. How do I know if it is just a passing feeling or if I am truly in a relationship that's bad for me? I guess I get my answer when I come out the other side and I feel like more than when I went in. It is still something that can creep into the shadows and rattle me. Thank you for reminding me to face this side of it head on. I will be doing more thinking. *hugs*

lovingpet




leadership527 -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 8:52:29 PM)

Well yeah lovingpet. Carol just went through one of these moments as you know. There is no real "advice" for such a moment. There is no way through it but to get to the other side. When you get there, you will have learned a lot about yourself.

'Cause you can't jump the track,we're like cars on a cable
and life's like an hourglass, glued to the table
No one can find the rewind button, girl.
So cradle your head in your hands
And breathe, just breathe,




breatheasone -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 9:10:54 PM)

loving pet, i actually do understand what you mean....but i also know the hows and whys....which has helped me TREMENDOUSLY to not freak out about my shit too much.... so yeah...i understand....




lovingpet -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 9:14:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: playfulotter

All I can say "lovingpet" is that you should think of yourself as the biggest priority and you are the only one who can make yourself happy. As far as we all know implicitly we only live once....well I think that way anyway...and for each of us contentment comes in a different package and you just have to find yours. Thanks again for the advice you gave me a few weeks ago!


I have to find the peace for myself and the joy it brings, for sure. No one can do that for me, even my partner.

Oh, and you're welcome sweetie! *hugs*

lovingpet




lovingpet -> RE: When It Just Gets Too Much (10/21/2009 9:26:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Early on he hit an emotional trigger that left me unable to handle anything. So he didn't make me have to. We went all the way back to the beginning. Just cuddling and hugs and soft sex. And it might have been a good six months before I could get back to anything we had been doing.

But the relationship is more important to us than the activities. And if I'm not happy, then the relationship isn't going to go well. So we stop doing the things that make either of us feel bad and we do more sensual stuff.

I think this is what happens when you're an adrenaline junkie, so to speak, you need bigger and bigger thrills to get the same jolt. What I can say is that if you quit doing anything then in six months a simply erotic spanking will be overwhelming. And maybe, to stay sane, you need to take those breaks so you can go back to the beginning.

It's the difference between being content hiking two miles on the same trail every day, noticing what flowers are blooming, which trees are changing colors, and people who need a bigger challenge so they're off planning tougher hikes and climbs until there they are at base camp at Everest. And have no place else to go.


We will be taking some time and stepping back, regrouping. Nothing is worth losing each other over. I know there are a great many who wouldn't deal with this process I am going through. I'm glad he's not one of them. This really put a nice perspective on it for me. Thanks. *hugs*

lovingpet




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