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Please consider reporting him. He's gotten away with doing this to countless other people and it's a violation of their privacy and rights. Getting off on an unsuspecting party is wrong.

Edited to add something else.
The phrase "First do no harm" is a cornerstone in the medical community from the 1800's. Who is to say having unnecessary medication will lead to no harm? What if someone suffers some untoward consequence from Dr. Bowel Movements interest in laxatives? What if he hurts someone in order to get off? Having a laxative seems like a fairly safe thing to do but you can't guarantee anything as being 100% free of negative consequences.

Dr Bowel Movements?  Ever considered that a bad reaction from such a surgery is NO bowel movements?  Of course he would be fixated on that, just like an orthopedic surgeon would be fixated on respirations and blood pressure to check for signs of an embolism. 

He is following the standards of care.  I would be more concerned if he had told her... "Oh, ok, no problem, you dont have too then."  Which of course he wouldnt, and didnt, because then his license would be on the line.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Dr's cant make us do anything, they can only cover their own asses when treatments are offered, and we patients are silly enough to decline something so simple. 

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Dr's cant make us do anything, they can only cover their own asses when treatments are offered, and we patients are silly enough to decline something so simple.

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the comment about how lucky she was to be going home where she could have all the enemas she wanted.

 
enemas are not always as safe as many may wish to believe.  many can, in fact, cause much more dangerous problems then they cure with long term use.
 
http://www.medicinenet.com/constipation/page4.htm

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

report him to the medical board?

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ORIGINAL: Drifa

So, I had to have emergency surgery. That all worked OK and I'm much better. However, my doctor weirded me out totally, and I am kinky myself and pretty laid back about kink.

He started up wanting to give me Dulcolax suppositories. I asked why? I was passing gas and having normal movements, why did I need the suppository. He got all red and stammered something about stimulating the bowel. I told him "Doctor, you are surely aware that Dulcolax comes in an oral form. I'll take it orally if you insist I need it." He could not manage to give me an explanation of his medical reasoning. Next, he wrote instructions that each of the nurses was supposed to try and talk me into taking his suppositories.

Incredulous after the first nurse told me that she didn't think I needed the suppository, but that her written instructions require that she try to talk me into taking it anyway, I asked the doctor the next day what was up with the suppository instruction? I informed him that INSTEAD of trying to get the nurses to coerce me into it, perhaps instead HE could explain his medical reasoning as to why I needed this. And furthermore, I asked him to explain why it had to be the suppository version of this drug when a perfectly good version of the same stuff is available and works the same way.

Dulcolax is the exact same stuff as Fleet's, Correctol, and Carter's Little Pills. The pill form take overnight to work, the enema or suppository version works in 15-30 minutes.

As I expected, however, this man, who is a gynecological oncologist and therefore has had at least 8 years of medical education in there along the way, could not explain or even come close to explaining WHY he wanted me to not only take a laxative when stuff was moving just fine through the system, and why it had to be a SUPPOSITORY.  He did blush and stammer and stop making good eye contact. And sure enough, the next nurse that came by had further instructions to try to talk me into taking the suppositories.

This was weird enough that I mentioned it to the internal medicine specialist. He told me, conspiratorially, that this was one of Dr. T's "weird quirks", and that I was right to refuse it if I wanted to refuse it. Several of the nurses, when I refused it, said something along the lines of the doctor having a "suppository fetish".  I did continue refusing to take the suppositories, with the agreement and support of my Lady, who is the only person whose instructions I follow.

This morning, as I was being discharged Doctor Suppository launched off into telling me how wonderful it was that I could go home, where I could now have all the prune juice and enemas that I wanted. And wouldn't that be special? This was the first time I'd ever seen a True Believer sermonizing on a topic that they BELEEEVED!!! in like this. I thought he was going to come in his pants.

I think what creeped me out so bad was the fact that this was kind of coercive. Many middle aged women would NEVER consider refusing a treatment, or even in asking a medical professional to explain a treatment. My mom was a doctor, my sister went to medical school, and I knew darned well that this wasn't kosher from when he started with it. Then continuing with a medically unjustified request for me to get these suppositories via the nurses, after I had made it incredibly clear that not just no, but HELL NO, I was not having any suppositories.

I'm all for this guy having a suppository kink and practicing it with CONSENTING, fully-informed adults. NOT with patients in the hospital for an emergency ovariohysterectomy due to torsion and gangrene of one ovary. NOT with a patient who has had enough synthetic heroin to befuddle a small elephant. And NOT after being told, repeatedly NO.

I am so mad.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Dr's cant make us do anything, they can only cover their own asses when treatments are offered, and we patients are silly enough to decline something so simple. 

Now you're being insulting.  Why don't you just pat her on the head and say "take your medicine like a good little girl."

Any time any medical provider wants to do something and cannot give you ANY reason why, is the time in my book when you say NO.  Being an informed consumer regarding your own healthcare prevents problems, and blindly following whatever someone with a license says is the way you get into trouble.

I can't even believe we're all reading the same OP. 

Cali

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Detectable bowel sounds and the patient's report that they moved their bowels should be sufficient to show that it was NOT "required".  And if they are going to treat all patients as liars, then they have bigger issues. 

Hell, all it takes is an instruction to "don't flush" and the nurse can verify the patient is not a liar.

I can't even begin to imagine the uproar on my postpartum wing if all of us c-section moms had suppositories pushed on us when they weren't needed.  Hell hath no fury mixed with raging hormones... yeah, that would have been fun.

Cali

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But I do plan on discussing my discomfort with the hospital's ethics committee, my regular OB/GYN and GP, and possibly with the state medical association. He may not be indulging a kink - but if not, his patient communication techniques SERIOUSLY need work. And while I don't care if the man has a suppository/laxative fetish, I *DO* care that he not inflict it on non-consenting people under his medical care if that's so.  Whether it was him being weird or not, the way he approached it made me really uncomfortable.

Sometimes my vanilla friends just don't understand what the difference is between to the kind of kink I enjoy as a submissive masochist and spousal abuse. This really kind of illustrates the difference. If My Lady had for whatever reason decided I needed a laxative suppository, then that is exactly what I would have submitted to. But it would have been my choice to consent to that, my choice to submit to her and her desires. 

This doctor just ordered that I would take the suppositories, refused to discuss the treatment, then when I refused the treatment ordered the nurses to attempt to talk me into taking the dang things... an order that made the nurses unhappy enough that every one said something to me along the lines of, "I really think this is stupid, but the doctor explicitly left orders in the chart that each nurse was to attempt to get you to take these suppositories. I know you have refused them, but I am required to try to talk you into them, which I have just done and am charting for the record."  The internal medicine specialist who was also attending on the case commented that the suppositories were Doctor T's own little quirk - he was really eye rolling and dismissive about it. The reaction of the other local medical professionals involved in my care further reinforces my belief that this was WEIRD, not the medical standard of care, and pushing their boundaries also.

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• m) Avoid aspirin and dairy foods during the post hysterectomy time because dairy products will not help you with constipation. The pain medicine you will be taking during the post hysterectomy time will tend to make you constipated.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its not illogical.  Its to prevent further trauma.

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• m) Avoid aspirin and dairy foods during the post hysterectomy time because dairy products will not help you with constipation. The pain medicine you will be taking during the post hysterectomy time will tend to make you constipated.

http://www.safemenopausesolutions.com/post-hysterectomy.html

Constipation, even weeks later, isnt unheard of, and is considered a normal result of the operation.  He prefers suppositories, she did not and said no.  He left Dr's orders for the nurses to encourage her to follow his plan of care.

My whole point is, its not against standard of care, which is the first thing any complaint will discover.  Nurses are the teachers in the hospitals.  Sounds like she got a group who didnt do their job well.