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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 8:18:30 AM   
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A kid born today will be lucky to see age 40.



that is ridiculous.



The massive vaccines cause cancer.  The body can only absorb so much.  China has almost no Alzheimers.  But it is rampant here.
So if taken all the vaccines I would not count on being healthy after age 40.



Hunky this is ridiculous. You don't want to have the vaccine fine but this font of misinformation has reached new heights. Please at least consult reliable sources....and you have yet to do that. Oh and no sunshine and vitamin D will not protect you from the flu on their own



See the package insert.  Those ingredients CAUSE cancer.

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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 8:49:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay..... I Scanned through this and laughed at a lot of it but I thought I would share some info I got when I called the CDC.

The Reason the Swine Flue is bad is because of it contagious period. It is spread very easily and when you get it, it sticks with you for a longer period than some other strains of Influenza.

The Biggest issue is that the Fever with this Flu is Heavy and Spikes Quickly and with the Resulting Cough Pnuemonia is very common.

When you get the Flu what kills you is actully the Fever, The Dehydration, Or the Pnuemonia. All of which can be treated in how you address the Illness. Drink Water and Eat Food as offten as you can. Eat something that if it comes up will not hurt. Chicken Noodle Soup or Top Ramen this way when you throw up it won't hurt so bad that you don't try to eat again. Drink at very least 8 - 8oz Glasses of water EVERY DAY, Drink Water after you Throw up at very least one 8 oz glass of water to replace what you just expelled. Do the same thing when you Pee.

Fever Reducers help but what is just as good is keeping the Body WARM and the Forhead Cool, It may not be as quickly effective as a Medicine Fever Reducer but it will have a similar effect.

I do wich to point out that so far the Swine Flu hasn't even reached 5% of what the Normal Everyday Regular Flu has Killed Each and every month. Every Year close to 10,000 people die of the Normal Run Of The Mill Flu. The Reason everyone is concerned about the Swine Flu is because of easily and quickly it spreads. It will Kill Less people but if 4 times as many people catch this Flu and give it to 4 times as many people while they have it you can see that the potential for death just Grows and Grows.

If you want to be a part of the solution.... STAY HOME when you get sick. Just take the time off work. It May be quite a few days, I was out for 4 work days I was sick in bed for 6 days total. The Fever and the Sore Body lasted for 5 of those 6 and on the day I returned to work I was feeling MUCH MUCH MUCH Better. Just do what you can to stop the spreading of the Flu and you will do more than taking that shot does.

Also you should know that the Shot is only effective against the strains they GUESS will be worst. Meaning that YES if you get the shot you can STILL GET THE FLU!!! Just not the ones that they suspected you could get. The Shots DO work against the strains that are in the shot, but the ones that aren't well you didn't medicate against them.

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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 9:01:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		What is the early onset of this flu? I started with a sore throat this week and have now progressed to asthma symptoms, coughing and a heavy chest. How do i know the difference between a cold and a slow onset of this flu? Does it come on gradually or all at once?

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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 9:01:52 AM   
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Take Care of Yourselves.


In this case, that's potentially the problem. What may be good for the individual is not for the collective good.

Of course, in a country that loves to thrive on "I got mine, fuck the rest," I suppose that's a no-brainer. That thinking in the 80s is why TB is again a threat, when we could have eradicated it.

One day, such short-term thinking will mean our demise.



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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 9:08:21 AM   
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My experience with this, as well as the experience of most of the people i've come in to contact with has been that generally it starts out with some sort of a fever.... Have You had a fever during any of this at all?
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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 9:17:53 AM   
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What is the early onset of this flu? I started with a sore throat this week and have now progressed to asthma symptoms, coughing and a heavy chest. How do i know the difference between a cold and a slow onset of this flu? Does it come on gradually or all at once?


Generally, the difference between a cold or other respiratory infection and the flu is fever and a quick onset. If you were fine and 6 hrs later (random number) you are suddenly not fine and have a fever it is likely flu.

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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 9:24:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think i got an upper respiratory cold. Thanks guys.

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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 9:47:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I feel sort of cold hearted.

I don't mean to sound mean.  It sure is no fun being sick.   I had a flu this year it was maybe 4 days and it was not fun.

I am very leary of all vaccinations now.   I see people aging in sickly ways- and corporations run amuck with junk science.  I don't wish sick on others.

I distrust centralized control.  One size fits all.

Maybe people can post what works for them for staying healthy or relieving the ailment.  Anyhow- I hope everyone has a good day.

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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 5:47:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you have any evidence that there's no alzheimer's in China? I'd have thought it more likely that people over there do lose their marbles as they get older, they just don't have the condition recognised or treated. (You know, like the massive spike in autism that's been brought on by vaccinating children and nothing else.)

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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 5:52:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Moonhead, the BBC say that china has six million sufferers for alzheimers which is a third of the world sufferers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6334419.stm




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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 5:54:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you. I thought he might have been mistaken about that one.

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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 8:28:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was forwarded this in one of those "pass it on" emails, but it was passed on by a nurse, and it makes sense.

Know the Difference between Cold and H1N1 Flu Symptoms

Fever:  Fever is rare with a cold.   Fever is usually present with the flu in up to 80% of all flu cases. A temperature of 100°F or higher for 3 to 4 days is associated with the flu. 

Coughing:  A hacking, productive (mucus- producing) cough is often present with a cold.  A non-productive (non-mucus producing) cough is usually present with the flu (sometimes referred to as dry cough).

Aches:  Slight body aches and pains can be part of a cold.  Severe aches and pains are common with the flu.

Stuffy Nose:  Stuffy nose is commonly present with a cold and typically resolves spontaneously within a week.  Stuffy nose is not commonly present with the flu.

Chills:  Chills are uncommon with a cold.  60% of people who have the flu experience chills.

Tiredness:  Tiredness is fairly mild with a cold.  Tiredness is moderate to severe with the flu.

Sneezing:  Sneezing is commonly present with a cold.  Sneezing is not common with the flu.

Sudden Symptoms:  Cold symptoms tend to develop over a few days.  The flu has a rapid onset within 3-6 hours. The flu hits hard and includes sudden symptoms like high fever, aches and pains.

Headache:  A headache is fairly uncommon with a cold.  A headache is very common with the flu, present in 80% of flu cases.

Sore Throat: Sore throat is commonly present with a cold.  Sore throat is not commonly present with the flu. 

Chest Discomfort:  Chest discomfort is mild to moderate with a cold.  Chest discomfort is often severe with the flu. 

sorry for the horrible formatting, I tried to clean it up a bit.


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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 10:38:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		The CDC post was very good, the email forward - well, with the h1n1, a sore throat was extremely common according to my doc, everyone I knew who got it, and all the doctors I know. My throat was bleeding, actually. Anywho, yes, taking care of yourself would be what would make the difference - but since obviously, no one would want to be around me cuz its contagious, nor would I allow anyone to be around me, and I live alone with no family, and it knocked me down so much, I wasn't getting out of bed to drink or eat the whole time, I lost ten pounds and I barely made it to drs appointments. And I imagine this would be the way it is with most people, how could you take care of yourself when you're really that sick?

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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/30/2009 11:04:08 PM   
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A Dr. Gupta got this flu and said it was the worst thing he had ever gotten. It knocked him on his rear end...


I had it in April, and did not really recover until shortly before the 4th of July. For the first couple of weeks, it was about as bad as any flu I've ever had in my life. I can only recall one, maybe two times when I was a child that I may have been somewhat sicker, but not by much. First time in my life i ever really understood how someone can die of the flu, and also how someone could be so sick they didn't particularly care whether they did or not. Not because I wanted to die, or was willing to accept it as a way to get out of being sick anymore, but because I was so sick I couldn't really understand why such a thing would be so important. It all seemed so... abstract, in a vaguely theoretical way.


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RE: H1N1 Swine Flu - 10/31/2009 11:02:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		The germ I had too had a bad throat.  One did not want to consume any food or liquid.

I guess I have a good immune system.  While I was knocked out for a few days... it did not drag on for weeks.

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