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CreativeDominant -> RE: Bring back the draft. (11/5/2009 6:47:24 AM)
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
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I joined the 82nd Airborne while we were still in Vietnam. By the time I got through basic, A. I. T. and jump school, we were out. I went to Panama for a show of force and to Korea after they shot down an American chopper. I spent 3 yrs in the service and 4 yrs in the reserve. Like others here...Bounty, submittous, I have no regrets about giving that time to the country and the others before me that gave me the freedom to live as I do.
Too many think being born was all they had to do...that and agitating others to give what they've earned to those who have not.
What would be really amusing would be to see what your post's would look like if Obama and a Democratic Congress ever tried to reinstate a draft......The Gov't can't be trusted to be in the health care business...but you seem to be supporting some sort of mandatory service....too comical.
Again, you see what you want to see and react in a knee-jerk, simplistic fashion.
There is a whole lot of difference in mandatory service...whether in the military or non-military capacity. Number one..the purpose of service is for the government to have somebody to accomplish a goal and to pay that person a reasonable wage while at the same time teaching them a new skill. IIn health care, the purpose of the government is to make sure people that cannot or will not pay for health insurance are still covered. They are paying these people's way when what these people will be doing is going to the doctor...not building bridges or highways or protecting the country. What skill set is being taught there? And as far as payment goes...yes, the government will be paying but they will be paying people...the doctors...who are forced into a system that, unlike mandatory service in the military or non-military sector, they are not able to opt out of after a set period of time to return to the private sector. Number two...the time of mandatory service is limited and a decision to continue on past the mandatory service would be up to the individual. As noted above...in this case, it is the people who are not receiving the benefit who are forced into service and they cannot opt out. I would love to opt out of Medicare and charge the patients under that program the same amount I charge my regular patients or I would love to have the government pay a reasonable fee for the services I provide these patients. But the government will not allow me to do either. They do allow me to use an Advanced Notice to these patients which notifies the patient that there are some services that the government does not pay for or pay for completely and that I am allowed to charge for these. You'd be surprised how many people don't even want to have to pay that extra 2-3 bucks.
Government-run health care is NOT the same as a government-run military or a government-run non-military undertaking like the Peace Corps.
Please don't concern yourself with my jerking knee,and as for simplicity please see the nearest mirror.Is that not simple enough?
Typical tactic...instead of addressing the logical argument presented which defeats the premise of your statement, insult the one who is able to distinguish between the government running one system and the government running another.
"Typical tactit"...Tell you what CD you actually address the real point of my first "simplistic"post....you know the point that seems to have gone right over your over inflated head...to wit:if this very same idea,the one you are here trumpeting happened to come out of the present Administration would not your "knee - jerk" reaction(i include your right wing brethren in this hypothesis too) be a firestorm of outrage and criticism.Socialism and un Americanism would be the tip of the iceberg as far as outcry goes.
Now in case this is all too deep for you to wrap your mind about allow me to be clearer....if tonight Republican leadership,nay Conservitive leadership had a secret meeting of the minds with President Obama.....and he agreed to take marching orders from them.....the result I would expect from you and others here would consist of at least two very predictable outcomes....1) given the percieved progeny of the ideas...you would label them un American....2) any Republican that supported the Administrations new shift would be promptly labeled RINO's
Talk about knee jerk reactions.
Ah yes...the conspiracy mindset of the left...i.e., the vast right-wing conspiracy of the right as spoken of by Clinton and taken now, by you, to ridiculous heights.
I've already stated that I think the draft is a good idea. If my statement of that in my prior posts was not clear enough for your rabid mindset, let me be clear...
I approve of a draft for military or non-military service. It does not matter which side of the aisle proposes it.
There now...is that clear enough? And it still does not equate to the government running a system best left to the private sector where there is choice and competition and price is controlled by what the market will bear vs. mandated price control ala Medicare.
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