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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 7:22:03 AM   
DarkSteven


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Fella, there are legit Dommes and there are phonies.

Your problem is that your profile is absolutely blank.  Women - whether Domme, sub, switch, and vanilla - all want to know something about the person they'll get involved with.  Your blank profile is an ironclad guarantee that no real women will be interested in you.  That only leaves the fakes.

So fill out that profile!


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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 7:42:39 AM   
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Which leads to the question of who do you really place the responsibility?.  Those who are making the money or those who have provided the opportunity to make it?



If by "those who have provided the opportunity" you mean the people who offer up credit card info or send money to scammers, I don't bother holding them responsible for the presence of so many scammers. I've pretty much settled on having little to no sympathy for them.

It's like with 419 scams, you can't con an honest man. If someone is on here and looks at that big red warning not to send money and thinks "I'm so much smarter and on top of things than the people who run this site, I can ignore that warning" then they are a fool.

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 8:31:41 AM   
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Just FYI, this type of scam is everywhere. It isn't just Collarme or sex-related or dating. Create a new character in EverQuest 2 and chances are good that there is a scammer "botted" character sitting in the starting area collecting names, and then a little later you start getting in-game mail with the same kind of scams directing you to this or that URL. In the game scams they offer to sell you in-game currency at low real-world monetary prices /shrug. Or sometimes powerlevelling or even sex chat.

Learn to recognize the scams and when you do twig to one, block and delete.

In general, if it is too good to be true, it's a scam. Look at everything with a healthy amount of skepticism, and then you can be pleasantly surprised when The Real Deal finally appears.

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 8:39:51 AM   
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. In the game scams they offer to sell you in-game currency at low real-world monetary prices /shrug.



I read the other day that these sorts of things are embedded in the games and quizzes on Facebook. Something about giving them your cell phone number (so they can text you the results of your quiz) signs you up for some subscription service billed to your cell phone. These are apparently above board enough to avoid being illegal, but still.

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 9:46:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Which leads to the question of who do you really place the responsibility?.  Those who are making the money or those who have provided the opportunity to make it?


To ask someone for their credit card information saying it is for age verification and then to deceptively charge the card is a scam.

In general with scams, whether on CM or elsewhere, I lay greater responsibility with the party who commits aggression. There is some responsibility that can be assigned to the person who did not exercise sensibility. However, there is more room to forgive here for sake of desperation, hope, being trusting, or for sake of a sophisticated scam (there has to be some believability for it to work). There is no such mitigating factor for one who deliberately seeks to mislead and scam.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 10:17:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Which leads to the question of who do you really place the responsibility?.  Those who are making the money or those who have provided the opportunity to make it?


To ask someone for their credit card information saying it is for age verification and then to deceptively charge the card is a scam.

In general with scams, whether on CM or elsewhere, I lay greater responsibility with the party who commits aggression. There is some responsibility that can be assigned to the person who did not exercise sensibility. However, there is more room to forgive here for sake of desperation, hope, being trusting, or for sake of a sophisticated scam (there has to be some believability for it to work). There is no such mitigating factor for one who deliberately seeks to mislead and scam.

Cheers,

Sea



I think you might be more forgiving of the characteristics you describe above than I am.  Most of the scams here really aren't difficult to spot.  As for being trusting, I'm afraid I'm going to stick with the trust, yet verify line of thinking.  When it comes to desperation and hope, those can absolutely be channeled into places away from the internet.

In My opinion, anyone who is really interested in finding someone should utilize all of the potential ways to do so.  This is just one of them and because this is the virtual world, the scams more easily succeed.

After all, except for the waiter/waitress when you paid for your meal when going to a munch, how many times have you been asked for your credit card number?
 


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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 10:33:34 AM   
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I'm tell'in ya... it isn't safe anywhere... I was sittin mind'in my own business, going through my purse, when this lil four year old pulls out his wallet. Right in front of me and announces that he needs my card! The nerve of that kid! I laugh of course and ask why he needs my card.

"Well... we need to go shopping, I saw a toy that you really need a lot."

lil scammer!

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 10:42:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I'm tell'in ya... it isn't safe anywhere... I was sittin mind'in my own business, going through my purse, when this lil four year old pulls out his wallet. Right in front of me and announces that he needs my card! The nerve of that kid! I laugh of course and ask why he needs my card.

"Well... we need to go shopping, I saw a toy that you really need a lot."

lil scammer!


Damn.  I'd better keep an eye on the cat.

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 10:44:12 AM   
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LOL...

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 11:36:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Venatrix

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

I'm tell'in ya... it isn't safe anywhere... I was sittin mind'in my own business, going through my purse, when this lil four year old pulls out his wallet. Right in front of me and announces that he needs my card! The nerve of that kid! I laugh of course and ask why he needs my card.

"Well... we need to go shopping, I saw a toy that you really need a lot."

lil scammer!


Damn.  I'd better keep an eye on the cat.


I know there is a joke in there somewhere...


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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 12:14:20 PM   
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The only scammer who had any real style was a group who wanted me to join their 'femdom school'.  They at least knew the standard conman's trick of buttering up the mark, with comments like "you have been selected because of your special qualities", etc, etc. 



Sobs out loud !!...... I never got an invite, does this mean I have NO special qualities ?   I`m aghast.

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 12:42:14 PM   
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 . . . desperation, hope, being trusting . . .

Hmm.  Those words jogged some memories. I was just casting my mind back to roughly this time last year . . .

I think when I first came to CM any propensity I had to be scammed was more to do with being overwhelmed than anything else.  I couldn't distinguish between what femdoms said they wanted to do on the boards here from what the scammers said they 'loved' to do. They sounded, and looked, pretty similar to me. That is, they all looked better than I'd ever dared hope.  I only really knew what was happening when the subject of credit cards popped up in their messages.

But, most of all, back then, strangedesire's comment pertained: 'Sex in general tends to bring out human stupidity and desperation".  Yup.  That was me, all right.  I'd long since locked D/s fantasies in a vault and thrown away the key.  Suddenly, it was all possible again and, for a certain while, my brain got blown away.  Reawakened dreams can do that to one's common sense, I suppose.


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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 12:46:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

The only scammer who had any real style was a group who wanted me to join their 'femdom school'.  They at least knew the standard conman's trick of buttering up the mark, with comments like "you have been selected because of your special qualities", etc, etc. 



Sobs out loud !!...... I never got an invite, does this mean I have NO special qualities ?   I`m aghast.


You probably didn't have the special quality of being a total, bleeding obvious newbie, PS. 

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 3:07:43 PM   
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You probably didn't have the special quality of being a total, bleeding obvious newbie, PS. 


I ope you aint suggesting I dont look eighteen matey 

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 3:18:35 PM   
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Ive been on here for maybe a week and ive ran into 5 or 6 so called Dommes who always say if you want to please me go to this website and after the second time i knew what was comming. There reactions are almost alike. They tell me that it will make them happy and that nothing will be taken off my credit card its just to prove my age and how good i am. When I call them out on it they get mad or block me before i do it to them, they tell me how disapointed they are and all this b.s. I have two screen names, one that i use and one that i used to use sometime back. So I conducted alittle test, i added the domme and she was about the same song and dance so i blocked her and then added her on my other s/n and she said the same thing word for word. Has anyone run into this?? Whats your opinon?? ThankYou


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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 3:34:36 PM   
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I ope you aint suggesting I dont look eighteen matey 

Have you got any ID on you, son?   

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 3:52:41 PM   
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I understand the whole buyer beware sort of thing, but that doesn't mean it doesn't drive me nuts that there are so many scammers on collarme. I get really, really tired of receiving personal messages from people when I sign on only to discover it's yet ANOTHER scammer trying to remove me from my money. Yeah, I can delete them, but it didn't use to be this bad. I used to actually get email from people who were actually trying to talk to me.

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 4:15:19 PM   
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Sarbonn, I barely get scammers at all these days.  Maybe, like me, you should try blocking them again. 

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 5:13:29 PM   
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Since the "log into this web site and enter your credit card" scam seems to be the most generic and most used scam, perhaps some subs with an axe to grind should set up an elaborate scam along the lines of, "Ladies (and men), learn how YOU can earn cash quick and easy by duping horny submissive men into online scams," and then to get the information, require they go onto a web site and enter their credit card info.  Ta-da.

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RE: What is with all of these "Dommes" giving... - 11/3/2009 7:18:04 PM   
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Well duuh, it's a scam.

The websites I tell my clients to go to are http://www.fitday.com and http://www.exrx.net.  Sometimes http://www.stumptuous.com, http://www.thetrainingstationinc.com/ or http://www.trans-health.com, depending on their individual health or body transformation goals.  None of those sites want your credit card.  Occasionally I'll require a book to be read, but the texts I consider most crucial are all on Amazon.com or Half.com for under $5.

If a domme wants to educate you on a subject, and she can't find it as a free informational resource on the Internet, she's either not very bright or just scamming you.  Either way, run the other direction. 


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