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RE: Age play? Or Something else? - 11/8/2009 12:08:40 AM

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Des, I can't really say that it is totally not sexual. I do get turned on, but that is only part of it.

It's really hard to say, is it lust for your bonds, lust for the one who binds you or is it more like I said. They can handle life, I am trippin ? I don't mean tripping on drugs, but it is something else. It certainly seems to enhance sex.

If I implied that it was not sexual at all, sorry, that's not what I meant. What I meant is more like that there is alot more to it. After all alot of people have sex every day without these "aids". Or anything of the sort. While I will admit it does come into the sexual realm of one's personality, there are alot of unexplained aspects to it. I attempted.

There is a Man, quite published on the internet who has explained it in some very non-sexual terms. He was rendered impotent I guess, but has a Woman who is devoted to him. She wears a chastity belt almost anytime she leaves the house. He allows her use of the sybian and many other forms of pleasure and probably helps along the way, but the guy just can't do it. This has nothing to do with his Woman's incarceration in a chastity belt, it is a matter of safety.

He has also trained her in the use of a handgun, supplied her with one and insists that she carry it. He affords her as much freedom as is possible. She has the cards, the money and the keys. She also I guess knows where he is coming from because she stays with him. She has to wear the CB just about all the time she goes out. But at home it is a different story. He does not see it as a sexual dominance at all, just security. And she stays with him.

She does not carry a key to the CB, and could fuck his world all up just walking into a police station and showing them her Tollyboy. But she doesn't. This type of guy never abuses, he is dominant yes, but not domineering. There is a big difference.

If you want more details, I will give you the specifics in mail, not out here. Don't reveal anything, not out here. I mean I just about know where they live. I mean this is really too much detail. I mean just don't quote it or anything, and don't bring the names into the game. They respect us, we should reciprocate.

Interesting to note, as I said about this site, that anyone can read it, the same is true there. I could give you two keywords that would bring you the whole story. But this site is a bit too popular for all that.

But in a way, talking of the CB issue, the paths do cross. There are similarities. Dominant=keyholder, submissive=wearer. No matter what the specifics it is a power exchange. You give it willingly, and hopefully carefully to someone you can really trust. And when they got you down and dirty and who the fuck knows what else, when you wake up in the morning and you are OK, usually you can figure that your trust was not misplaced.

So, really, trust=dependency.

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RE: Age play? Or Something else? - 11/8/2009 3:05:54 PM

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Traditionally impotent men make better lovers. Because they aren't focused on getting it in and then getting off, and then it's over. A man who can't do that, when he makes love to a woman focuses on the woman's pleasure. And there are all kinds of toys, plus his hands and mouth once he gets past the "climb on top, pound away, roll over and fall asleep" thinking.

But bondage for me is enough to arouse me when I am otherwise uninterested as long as I'm not ill. Tired and irritated? Tie me up and within half an hour I am totally relaxed and desperate to cum. Sex is not the same every time, sometimes it's better than others. For me, it's always better with rope.

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RE: Age play? Or Something else? - 11/8/2009 9:39:01 PM

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"Traditionally impotent men make better lovers"

Thanks for that bit of irony to put in my files. I am not being sarcastic here and I can see what you mean. He is not there to get his rocks off, rather to get her rocks off. To keep her around, just because he likes her, or heaven forbid loves her. To please her because he wants her to be pleased.

Yes, I think I understand.

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RE: Age play? Or Something else? - 11/9/2009 4:07:05 AM

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Not irony. Men have a tendency to think sex is a goal oriented sport, that you do it best if you get off fast. Comes from masturbating as youngsters and wanting to get it done before your mother comes in and kisses you goodnight.

Unfortunately they keep that mindset when the get involved in a relationship. Since women work so differently, and need more time, more foreplay, a guy who is focused on getting to his orgasm is not going to give us the time we need, and we respond badly to feeling pressure from a lover. "What, you aren't aroused yet?" is not likely to encourage us to want to do this again any time soon.

A man with erectile dysfunction won't focus on cumming quickly, he will be interested in seeing how his partner responds, in playing with her just for the fun of it. And that's something that's highly arousing, that he's willing to leisurely explore our bodies, watch us moan when he strokes a calf, or plead when he hits a ticklish area. There's more to us than breasts and genitals and most men don't realize that.

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RE: Age play? Or Something else? - 11/9/2009 9:18:17 PM

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Wow Des, I won't try to get a chuckle out of you with something so lame again. Your brain is showing.

As a Man, I am not thinking with the head of my penis. That to me is childhood. Manhood is not delineated by some athletic feat or some trial of strength. It is passing away from a childish "me me me" attitude into really thinking about the outside world. How it is, how it came to be, how one's life is and the good and bad of it. And most importantly the recognition of one's own faults. There are a few other aspects to it but that should sum it up at least for now.

Childhood is marked by the cruelty, vulnerability, instability and selfishness. Little kids are real fucking assholes, but we have to put up with that because they have not yet had time to learn. And that patience is also a component of adulthood. Chronicalogical age means nothing here. There are milestones so to speak in the mind, which once passed can never be retread. Once you know certain things you live with it or you are asking for selective amnesia. If anyone needs that try the CIA because that is beyond the scope of my intelligence. I bnow very little about it and really, my memories, even the worst of them, horrfying times that I will not detail now, are a part of me. As important as an arm or a leg.

Or a dick. (penis) So what it seems to boil down to is what mode is he in, is it "me me me" or "you you you" ? Is the capacity to really love then dependent upon adulthood ? Remember what they used to call puppy love. Sometimes I think that particular "they" knew more than we.

And adding to that the fact that chronological age means nothing, what can be concluded ? I mean I know people who are way older than I, but have the mind of a teenager. And I know the opposite as well. When a youngster engages in a conversation with you and makes YOU streach YOUR mind a little, someone did something right. But when it is wrong, it can be for life.

Ageplay, the next level. Years ago a local guy, about 70-80 years old married a 20 year old broad. She took him for so much money it was not funny. But my one friend said he had no sympathy for the old guy, why ? If he is that stupid now, I bet he was a real asshole in the past. I found that hard to argue against.

Life seems to have stages. First you are not responsible for yourself. Then you think you are and of course you are king shit and invincible, practically immortal for a time. Then after you are not, or find out you are not then you become really responsible for yourself. At that stage maybe you need a vacation now and then, bondage, CBs, diapers, whatever, they provide the escape. It is temporary but as an adult you need it. You just need to chill for a time. You know all those problems will still be on your desk in the morning, but you need a rest. That is what it is IMO.

Some never get through all the stages. As they age the get more and more miserable, and shit can happen. They could crack and become a rapist or something, or be hermit or who knows. Neither option is a really good one. But if you can't get past the bullshit, you will relive it forever.

All this kinky shit is just an escape, nothing more nothing less, even if it is a lifestyle. But after playtime, you are expected to have your feet on the ground.

Guys who fuck with complete disregard to their partner's pleasure are really not much better than rapists. at least they do have enough courtesy to ask first, but not a whole hell of alot more. And kink doesn't mean shit, if I want to keep you around I'll stick dildoes in your ears, electrodes in your eyes, chain you to anything you want. As long as it is what you want. I will not try to run game on you, I am in it for pleasure as well, it would be totally fucking stupid to try to lie at that point. But you first. Cum a couple of times, or a half a dozen before I slip it in. Enjoy it, but don't get smug about being able to come all night. Remember I can piss standing up. (ususally LOL)

I dunno, I think what I am trying to say is that being an adult is more than alot of people out there think. And once all of it is realized, the release of restraint is a welcome abandonment, for a time. It is just like getting high or drunk, if you are smart you know that it solves nothing. It's just a break.

Others may see it differently, fine.

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RE: Age play? Or Something else? - 11/10/2009 12:26:55 PM

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I agree. I think that's why there's such a great mainstream interest in wiitwd. It's a break, a rest from daily stress. Plus someone pays attention to you, a huge amount of attention and that in itself is empowering.

I like it when it's all about me and when it's all about him. There's nothing that make me so smug as me swaying past with a load of laundry and him suddenly overcome by lust. Have to have me, grabs and does. Despite what my drivers license says, I can't really be such an old lady if I can inspire that much of a reaction. But you need it to even out in the end. If it was always about him, and I never got what I needed, that wouldn't work.

I won't say though that it makes a man selfish. That kind of conditioning is hard to overcome especially when you don't know you're doing it. And how many of us tell a person that the reason we don't want to see them again is because they're lousy in the sack with a list of points of what they're doing wrong? So if they never learn, never are told, how can they change?

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