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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/6/2009 6:47:09 PM   
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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/6/2009 7:33:39 PM   
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Freakishly busy!!! How bout you?

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/6/2009 7:41:25 PM   
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You have no power to change other people; You can only be the man you want to be, and she will either follow you, or she won't.


Rex, this is very true and I applaud you for taking the question at face value. I find your posts refreshing.

I personally would never take on a woman this young. I did it once and I learned a valuable lesson from it. It's not that there is anything wrong with her, or him, it's just they are miles apart on where they wish to be in life and a I would find a relationship such as this doomed from the start. While it might be fun initially, you have to ask yourself where would it logically go.

I find that old Clint Eastwood adage highly appropriate in all we do; "A mans gotta know his limitations."

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/6/2009 8:11:30 PM   
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((giggles as she's double glomped))

Freakishly busy!!! How bout you?

Magik


Same here, busier than I want to be

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 2:14:55 AM   
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Read the links that were posted. At first, he was.


Ahhhh that explains a lot.......but all the more reason to change the name methinks.


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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 5:16:40 AM   
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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 8:58:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I should note this is a fast reply - not because I am busy, but because I was attempting to see if anyone had given you the same answer I am about to give and I realized that I had to spend most of my time reading through post-after-post insulting you for asking a question in order to do that, so I stopped reading.

I am not even a trained sub, so you may disregard my reply, but post # 106 under  Unruely slave  may apply to your situation. I'm not a dominant. I am rather new to bdsm, but I do know about behavior in general. Take a look.

The other thing I have to say, is that if she is new to this she just may be having some trouble putting her pride aside and may just need more time and training. She's from a generation where women don't submit as often as they once did and it may take more time for her to get past that and become who she says she wants to be.

If you start ignoring the behavior after having given inconsistent reinforcement (bc we are thinking she likes the spanking and you have probably skipped giving a few here and there when you started suspecting that she liked them) you might be able to extinguish the behavior, but realize the spankings actually served as inconsistent positive reinforcement. Reinforcers make the bad behavior worse and so it will take a long time to extinguish this way.

Now, if you are talking about ignoring her in order to modify her behavior, that can be very effective. It even works with developmentally disabled children. They all get a piece of paper that they keep on their desk, allowing them to participate in the class. When they break a rule, the paper gets taken away and the teacher ignores them and doesn't even look in their direction. Even just a few seconds of this works on children. If you plan to find a way to adjust that to your life, it should be a huge help, especially if she's acting like a brat because she is craving your attention. When you tell her you are going to start ignoring her, don't even make eye contact as you tell her. If you don't have to speak to her that will help too. Maybe explaining something like, when you move a certain magnet from fridge to freezer, she doesn't exist until you move it back.
Go easy with it, but make sure the first time you do it you are pretty firm though. Obviously if you often don't acknowledge her for 2 days over minor offenses and she is someone who craves attention; you're going to ruin her, the effectiveness of the punishment and your relationship.

Another thing that applies to behavior/punishment - If you start small and then consistently up the consequences for each offense you may feel that you are being fair and treating her like an adult - but really you are helping her to build her tolerance to the punishment. You actually need to start off severely the first time she behaves in a way you don't like and then you can ease off a bit.

So if you spanked her with your hand the first time she acted like a brat, then spanked her harder, then moved on to a belt or paddle, well you helped her learn to tolerate pain which might make things more fun and interesting down the line, but doesn't do as much for correcting the behavior at hand.

And last but not least, pour on the praise (or reward spankings) only when she does something that pleases you... Don't go nuts with praise every single time, do give the praise more-often-than-not.

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 9:55:27 AM   
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Greetings Aramis,

Good to see you. Well, good to see your post.

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ORIGINAL: MasterAramis

I personally would never take on a woman this young. I did it once and I learned a valuable lesson from it. It's not that there is anything wrong with her, or him, it's just they are miles apart on where they wish to be in life and a I would find a relationship such as this doomed from the start.



As I was reading this the same question that usually enters mind mind did again. And then you asked the question yourself, though somehow I suspect within a different context than I ask it myself.

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While it might be fun initially, you have to ask yourself where would it logically go.



This is often why any and all failed relationships are doomed from the get go. People with alternate objectives that are not being honest with one another or even themselves.

Most often people are searching for what it seems you have, a beautiful (a subjective term) woman that fills the mate dynamic. Others seek something a bit different, but for various reasons don't expose that fact openly.

I have two females directly in my life, one my age and with her and have a loving and mutually shared life, she is submissive to me but a free thinking and acting woman. The other is a much younger female that I "master", I assure you that things aren't always smooth going and she can rebel to some degree at times. But that is to be expected and I have, to this point, been ready for her "tantrums" when they arrose. My age and experience fit our dynamic well and she needs a man to provide direction that is unbending and demands unconditional obedience.

Personally I have wonder if the OP and his "problem child" have been honest with eachother and themselves with regards to their relationship.

Any relationship where personal honesty prevails, success stands a much better chance. I doubt that age will ever be a hurdle to success if the personal objectives of all parties involved run along a concurrent theme.

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 10:03:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PainfullyCurious

I should note this is a fast reply - not because I am busy, but because I was attempting to see if anyone had given you the same answer I am about to give and I realized that I had to spend most of my time reading through post-after-post insulting you for asking a question in order to do that, so I stopped reading.



You have some very wise things to say here... very understandable and such. I am sure more than a few would and will enjoy your efforts.

What I am really responding to is your comment on how the op was insulted. You stopped reading and didn't get a full picture. First of all he was insulted becasue his story wasn't ringing true. Not because he asked a question or because it seemed like a question that was stupid to someone. But... because he wasn't making sense according to his claims and those who have been around or know this person's mo so to speak... were able to grasp or sense or know there was more to the story and it wasn't good.

So while you wish to do the right thing and give someone an opportunity to learn and be treated well... you could conclude that many of us were unfair and wrong to do or say what we did or said. You failed to follow up on reading the rest because you closed your mind thinking you had summed up what was happening and that is understandable. But what you missed is... that the op rarely ever tells the truth, has a history of playing manipulative games and hasn't been straight with anyone. That is why I posted the links I did so that those that couldn't remember all, would see and remember. Some remembered his picture... some couldn't remember it all as it wasn't that big a deal... but knew something was odd.

The bottom line is when someone wants a sincere answer to something, they ought to be sincere enough to tell the truth of the whole situation rather than lie and mislead people to get what they want. And when called on doing otherwise... not be snarky about being called on it... but that isn't going to happen! lol Just more lies came out in his defending himself.

Do I have it out for this guy? Believe it or not... no I do not. He is a pimple and pimples go away. But I call things the way I see them. So he could be a switch... all well and fine... I love many switches. But... liars who present one way, who claim many things and who are clearly lying... them... I will point out, I don't care if I have history with them or not.

So please do not blame others who are sarcastic or whatever with him unless you see the full picture because actually they were detecting something you could not see or know. Even as brillant as I think you are from your insightful post, you just didn't see the big picture or the past with this op. We all aren't that bad... there is often times, more to the story.

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 10:17:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kinkySexToy

Got a question for You Masters. How do You teach a 19 year old slave girl to act like a adult instead of a baby. she does real well around other people but when we're alone she goies into the spoiled brat baby mode and it drives me crazy!!! Spankings only seem to feed the fire. she likes to push me to see how far she can go. Sir Don


perhaps get rid of the brat?


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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 10:31:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PainfullyCurious

I should note this is a fast reply - not because I am busy, but because I was attempting to see if anyone had given you the same answer I am about to give and I realized that I had to spend most of my time reading through post-after-post insulting you for asking a question in order to do that, so I stopped reading.



The op did not receive insulting posts until he started insulting those that gave him workable answers.  You get what you give. 

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 10:47:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lockit

So while you wish to do the right thing and give someone an opportunity to learn and be treated well... you could conclude that many of us were unfair and wrong to do or say what we did or said. You failed to follow up on reading the rest because you closed your mind thinking you had summed up what was happening and that is understandable. But what you missed is... that the op rarely ever tells the truth, has a history of playing manipulative games and hasn't been straight with anyone. That is why I posted the links I did so that those that couldn't remember all, would see and remember. Some remembered his picture... some couldn't remember it all as it wasn't that big a deal... but knew something was odd.

The bottom line is when someone wants a sincere answer to something, they ought to be sincere enough to tell the truth of the whole situation rather than lie and mislead people to get what they want.


Part of the reason these answers stay posted, is because I imagine, other people do as I do, and read threads that have to do with questions they may want to ask themselves. I'm going to hope that the time I put into writing an answer will help somebody someday, if they get that far...

I see your point though, while I still see a reason to give a real answer, I'm not too thrilled to know I spent my time being sincere to help someone who was not being sincere. Hopefully your efforts will help to eliminate that kind of thing in the future. While this thread may have gotten messy, hopefully your efforts will ensure that future threads won't have to. I like this site and I'm glad you are protective of it. I was trying to do the same thing, but if you are sure this person is telling lies, then my intentions don't matter so much. I'm sorry.

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 10:52:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		This was one of those cases where not reading the whole thread was probably contributing to that.  Your heart was in the right place.  As I told Rex, at least what you took the time to write will still be available when a person with a sincere question on the subject uses the search function in the future.

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 10:59:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I really don't see what I have done as protecting the site or anyone. What harm can anyone do on a message board? I might question what may be happening to a 19 year old... but other than her, no harm can really be done. I am not trying to monitor the boards or site.

I will however call a spade a spade or a forked tongue a forked tongue and would expect someone to call me on whatever I might do! lol I will try to explain to someone who may not know what is going on in something, so that they can understand what is happening... for the purpose of them having a more enjoyable time here with us and us with them.

I do know that these were lies. Some of the lies are proven in past post that the op has made. And some... well... lol... are clear to those who know things even I don't know. I simply didn't want you to think badly about people here that you could come to really like and enjoy... over someone who hasn't been sincere from the start of his posting on the boards.

I do hope you will stick around. You are a very warm and intelligent person and it would be great to read more of your wisdom and thoughts! I am sure someone has or will get something from what you posted and your efforts! I know I enjoyed it!

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 12:21:10 PM   
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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 12:44:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kinkySexToy

Got a question for You Masters. How do You teach a 19 year old slave girl to act like a adult instead of a baby. she does real well around other people but when we're alone she goies into the spoiled brat baby mode and it drives me crazy!!! Spankings only seem to feed the fire. she likes to push me to see how far she can go. Sir Don

She owns you. Stop spanking her, and don't allow her to push you. Since you know the problem, why are you putting up with it?

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/7/2009 7:07:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kinkySexToy

Got a question for You Masters. How do You teach a 19 year old slave girl to act like a adult instead of a baby. she does real well around other people but when we're alone she goies into the spoiled brat baby mode and it drives me crazy!!! Spankings only seem to feed the fire. she likes to push me to see how far she can go. Sir Don


Someone who is barely out of the baby stage acting like a baby.  Wow.  What a concept.  It sounds to me like she's having tantrums to get what she wants.....attention and spankings.  And it's working.  Right now she's controlling You.  Take control of her.  Don't give her attention when she tantrums...punish her by ignoring her.  Being ignored is awful.  Or if You want to punish her some other way, don't give her spankings, she probably LIKES to be spanked.  Do something different that she DOESN'T like.  That is, if You even want to keep her around.  Otherwise, tell her to get her spoiled brat ass outta there and come back when she grows up.....a  LOT.  I'm sorry, but I just have NO patience for spoiled, whiney brats.

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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/8/2009 2:26:03 AM   
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This is often why any and all failed relationships are doomed from the get go. People with alternate objectives that are not being honest with one another or even themselves.



Any relationship where personal honesty prevails, success stands a much better chance.


WELL SAID....
I agree whole heartedly


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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/8/2009 6:49:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: badlilthang

i lost the entire point of this thread when i saw from slave to Master in months - training 8 slaves - camp - kicking slaves out when done....

i swear...i heard banjoes.....



I'm glad I wasn't the only one that heard "SQUEAL LIKE A PIGGY BOY!" in the back of their minds.


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RE: inmature frmale slave. - 11/9/2009 2:37:14 AM   
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