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AquaticSub -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/18/2009 8:24:40 AM)
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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery
As for Women who are struggling financially I sympathise, but again that is what social security is for , for those without jobs, i know it wont go nearly far enough, im aware of that but Dommes should be aware that subbies are struggling in the current recession also and that if he/she gives to Him/Her he will most likely go without at Her expense. The Dublin Femdom's argument in a nutshell is this , nobody goes into this lifestyle to be exploited and Women or Men should not exploit submissive individuals or try to seduce them into becoming financial slaves by saying that they will feel much better if they submit and their only purpose is to serve the Dominant Lady/Dominant Man in question, particularly at a time of hardship for all. I dont disagree with this argument
Kevin
So again... you deny that these are men with a right to decide where to spend their money but are poor little weaklings that must be protected. Damn, you don't like your own gender do you?
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Yes it is Findommes that are my and the Femdommes target now that I think about it. She does not specify but I think She means Findommes, I thought the two were the same mind you, dont ProDommes ask for money after all
Seriously, why don't you have the balls to quit hiding behind her opinions? Yeah it's an insulting statement but it's true. You keep hiding behind her as though the fact that there is a fem dom somewhere that agrees with you makes you right somehow.
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Well , boi fuck upedness, sorry boi jen, you see I got into this lifestyle for reasons of friendship. Friendship without being someone's ATM or have someone use me as an ATM. I know that might sound fucked up to you but to me what s really fucked up are Women and Men too who expect tribute off other men or women, who ok are submissive, without even so much as allowing them meet them. Thats totally fucked up to me
So be a man and say "No" the same way you would to any other relationship that didn't suit your needs. Let your fellow men and submissives the choice to decide that they want to pay so that they can get their needs met without any strings or if they don't as well.
What's totally fucked up here is that you refuse to accept that other people need and want different things. This is what you want so clearly it is what is best for everyone. It's one of the most self-centered and selfish views I've ever heard.
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And people who seek play for free thats a WANKER i agree but people should be allowed to chat with Women or Men for free this idea that I will only chat with you or I will block you if you try to inivite me to chat which I see from Dominant Women and Dominant Men is totally fucked up to use your expression
At least you've quit hiding but your entitlement is through the roof. There are no shoulds. Only what people are willing to do. Obviously there are certain things you are unwilling to do that other people are - big fucking deal.
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But I have since joined a group where quelle surprise , in Dublin, a BDSM, group where I can talk to Women or Men who are Dominant for free in a pub setting and quelle surprise I dont charge them for talking or chatting to me. We meet about once a month
In the States we call that a munch. They are lovely. But it's not the same as being pro dommed and it isn't the chatting that people are paying for. They are paying to get a kink met. For some people, having to pay to talk to a woman is humilation that gets them off. Just because it doesn't get you off doesn't mean it's wrong.
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I find it so funny you say all this get a job, blah blah and in the same breath in another post you justify Pro Dommes existence with saying that oh well you know its very very hard to get jobs now, people have to pay bills, blah blah blah, did it ever strike you that you are contradicting yourself, did it ever strike you that subbies have to pay bills and yes it is damn hard to get work now, I should know, and no im not lazy, im just pissed off with people who moan about the economy and then in the same breadth fire workers, any dumb ass would know that if you fire workers you reduce tax for the Government and hence there is less of a fund, what we need is more employment and less dismissals, the more people that there are employed the less we have to concern ourselves with falling tax takes and the more productive our economy will be. But of course no one sees this. And getting back to your earlier point, i have no problem with Dommes making a profit but im sorry $200 to see a pro Domme as some Dommes charge is way over the top. If they want to know why they are not getting clients , they should drag their price down to maybe $50 then they will get more clients. But they wont do that because they live in a different universe to the rest of us. Look at it this way $50 multiplied by 6 clients per day is $300 a day multiplied by 5 or 6 is $1800 a week take away tax and thats $1000 a week, $50,000 a year dont tell me that a Domme would be in financial difficulty on that kind of money and hey its a hell of a lot more than those on social security
Look... we KNOW times are hard. Quit bitchin' about it. If you object to pro doms because you honestly feel your fellow male submissives are incapable of managing their pocket money and will spend more than they can afford on luxeries, start applying your fight elsewhere too. Get the pubs shut down - they can live without that too and that takes their money that should be going to bills plus it's good for their health to stop drinking. Shut down the video rental places - after all, these poor guys just can't stop themselves! And get ads banned - how can a submissive manage with so many things telling them where to spend their money! It's not like they are adults or anything.
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Again you miss the point, Im not looking for a Pro Domme, Im merely backing up the Femdom's argument that Pro Dommes are too expensive and many people have not got into the lifestyle to be used as ATMs
No one is forcing them to spend the money and if they were charging too much they wouldn't have clients.
Supply and demand. Clearly you and this woman are threatened by pro doms. It's pathetic really.
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