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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 11/13/2009 10:20:01 PM   
kasumi


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Status: offline 		I actually think hand signals would be quite beneficial for Master and I. We have children and so we live mostly very plain lives. It would be nice to know what Master wished of me without his saying so in such a way that we would find inappropriate around our daughters. 

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 11/13/2009 10:35:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was looking for a post where Knight or one of his girls talked about it; kyraofmists talks about it here.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 11/14/2009 3:40:14 AM   
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There isn't much more for me to add, the post CalifChick linked expresses it well. There are not many hand signals that he will give to us and at the moment I can only recall two, he wants a drink and he is ready to leave. Mostly they are signals that we use in order to request permission to speak to him. In that sense we are close to him if not right by his side. They also help in a public situation because he has hearing loss and it is even more difficult if there is a lot of back ground noise, so getting his attention with a hand signal is a lot easier than getting his attention verbally.

In regards to the baseball example, our hand signals are more along the lines of what the catcher would give to the pitcher and not what the coach would give to the players. They are simple, single position to ask for something specific.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 11/14/2009 5:01:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Everybody uses body language!  And I'd venture to say that most people have some sort of signal with their sweeties whether they know it or not.  When he puts his hand out,you know to walk ahead or to sit down where he gestures.  A raised eyebrow "watch it!", tilt of the head to mean "come here", that kind of thing, the motion for "eating".  Even hand signals can be very subtle and just  "understood". 

I speak American Sign Language and have found it very easy to communicate with a friend from across the room. 

It's pretty interesting to see the idea spoken of so matter of factly.  I'm fascinated by how many people have taken a defensive tone.  Y'all KNOW we speak a lot in body language. 



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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 11/14/2009 11:57:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the dislike came about as a result of the op talking about making her drop to her knees in public, about her going around insulting people. Beyond that, KOM likes this because of hearing loss. I need verbal instructions because my eyesight's deteriorating again.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 11/14/2009 12:05:48 PM   
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Y'all KNOW we speak a lot in body language.



Sure - it's just not formalized as the OP discusses.  It's a natural give'n take between us, a reading of one another, rather than a formal command.  The OP asks if hand signals are preferred, and I answered 'no'. 


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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 11/14/2009 4:42:56 PM   
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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/5/2009 8:11:09 AM   
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Am I the only one to wonder at the op's choice of partners if he has to worry about her going about insulting people? Or perhaps she has a drinking problem?


Yes, you are.  The OP said they had a signal in the event that the sub humiliated someone, etc.  He didn't say he actually EVER had to use it.  He just likes the idea he has an inside joke with his sub and they can communicate that joke and the vanilla world will never be the wiser.  I think you are reading things into his post that aren't even there.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/6/2009 12:09:06 AM   
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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/6/2009 12:18:28 AM   
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I enjoy using hand signals/commands for My sub when we're at a social event such as a bdsm party or munch. I have 5 basic ones and although I have no issues with her visiting friends, I don't want to yell across a room or wave when I want her to come to Me, shut up or just get ready to go and get our coats. Yes, I even have one for "drop to your knees, now! and be quiet", in the event she's embarrassed or insulted someone.

I don't wish to sound ridiculous, for she doesn't have to watch Me all the time, but when she is looking I'll make eye contact and if I want something I'll give her a message. Even one for I'm having a good time.

Would you find these helpful in a kink community event or gathering? An example, is if I pull or scratch either ear, I wish for her to excuse herself and come to My side, now.



For me, they are more trouble than they are worth, I perfer verbal communication, less chance of a misunderstanding or a missed signal

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/6/2009 12:21:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		As with most communication..it is body language, hand signals and words.
In public the words become some less..and the others become more.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/17/2009 5:09:06 AM   
Lilpet4Master


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Status: offline 		We use hand signals when in public and sometimes even at home when there is vanilla company. This keeps us connected when distance between us is greater than spoken communication. I know exactly what is wanted or expected. 

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/17/2009 3:12:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Am I the only one to wonder at the op's choice of partners if he has to worry about her going about insulting people? Or perhaps she has a drinking problem?


Leave it to you to find a way to insult someone you know absolutly nothing about

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/17/2009 4:26:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		He screwed up our hand signals once and I ended up blowing a water cooler in Target

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/17/2009 5:12:31 PM   
yellowroses


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Status: offline 		We have never used hand signals with each other really as far as commands go. I can read Him very well and I can usually tell when He needs or wants something.

I did use sign language with my daughter when she was younger. I still do sometimes. I found it was much more effective then the alternative of yelling at her from across the room or in public.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/17/2009 9:03:36 PM   
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I just snap my finger...its simply means come here slut...
duh

My Master generally can give me a look and I know my place, no snaps needed. We're just on the same wavelength and often words are just not needed. Sick minds think alike I guess.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/17/2009 9:31:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CougarStud

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Am I the only one to wonder at the op's choice of partners if he has to worry about her going about insulting people? Or perhaps she has a drinking problem?


Leave it to you to find a way to insult someone you know absolutly nothing about


Leave it to you to forget how some submissive's are complained about by their dominant... who do get themselves into trouble. Des was reading the op's own words. I find your comment and the fact that you missed the op's words rather funny considering so much you have said for months now.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/17/2009 9:37:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am a very social person. I have never had an owner who wanted me right by their side at social events, and I do tend to wander to socialize with friends.
necessarry? useful? as others have said here, probably not so much?
fun? hot? maybe. I have always had a bit of a turn on for 'one word' commands, and other simular training devices. I just think it's hot.
One former owner did have one hand signal, usually used when we were home, alone, and close enough for easy verbal communication. He (and, i must admit, i) prefered the hand signal solely for the hawtness factor.
he would point to his crotch. I'd define the expected response - but it's pro'lly obvious.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/18/2009 12:33:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lockit

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ORIGINAL: CougarStud

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Am I the only one to wonder at the op's choice of partners if he has to worry about her going about insulting people? Or perhaps she has a drinking problem?


Leave it to you to find a way to insult someone you know absolutly nothing about


Leave it to you to forget how some submissive's are complained about by their dominant... who do get themselves into trouble. Des was reading the op's own words. I find your comment and the fact that you missed the op's words rather funny considering so much you have said for months now.


I'm with Lockit. The OP stated:

quote:


Yes, I even have one for "drop to your knees, now! and be quiet", in the event she's embarrassed or insulted someone.


It's entirely reasonable to wonder if this is in place because it occurs frequently.

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RE: Do you perfer hand signals when in public? - 12/18/2009 9:07:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CougarStud

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Am I the only one to wonder at the op's choice of partners if he has to worry about her going about insulting people? Or perhaps she has a drinking problem?


Leave it to you to find a way to insult someone you know absolutly nothing about


DesFIP  was simply speaking to what came from the OPs own opening post. You said, "leave it to you" which sounds like you expect this of  DesFIP for some reason. Maybe you  have a personal issue with DesFIP?

Edited to Add: i LOVE your new pic CougarStud. So i had to perv you to see if you had more!


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