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luckydawg -> RE: China called.... (11/19/2009 10:54:35 AM)
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My apologies DC, I thought you walked off. The Han are the Majority, so were the Germans in Germany, but they dominate through brute force and violence, which seems to meet the definition to me. Do you follow what is happening to the Tibetians and Xuigurs?
Every Facist state I have seen is ruled by a Party Buearcracy, with a glourius leader at the top, feel free to name one that isn't/wasn't. Do you think Hu, doesnt have a cult of personality? Are you asserting that Facism is unable to have a transfer of power (from one leader to the next)? That it is entirley personality based? There are plenty of definiton of Facism, but that is not a characteristic I have ever heard. And I have never seen one that did not include the unity of Bussiness and state (though sometimes economics is implied in the controll of all aspects of life.) or "economic regimentation".
Wiki has a good basic definintion,
Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism[1][2][3][4] with a corporatist economic system,[5] and which is usually considered to be on the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum.[dubious – discuss][6][7][8][9][10] Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak.[11]
Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state,[12] with the belief that the majority is unsuited to govern itself through democracy and by reaffirming the benefits of inequality.[13] Fascist governments forbid and suppress openness and opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement.[14] Fascism opposes class conflict, blames capitalism and liberal democracies for its creation and communists for exploiting the concept.[15] Fascism fashioned itself as the "Complete opposite of Marxian socialism..."[16] by rejecting the economic and material conception of history, the fundamental belief of fascism being that human beings are motivated by glory and heroism rather than economic motives, in contrast to the worldview of capitalism and socialism.[17]
In the economic sphere, many fascist leaders have claimed to support a "Third Way" in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state socialism.[18][19] This was to be achieved by establishing significant government control over business and labour (Mussolini called his nation's system "the corporate state").[20][21]
And I think China hits every one of them.
But ok, you agree with my original point, that they are not called "Red" anymore, because they quit being communist 15-20 years ago. (not pretending you agree with my point that they are facist)
How would you classify thier system?
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