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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 8:07:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		i'm curious if you guys starting poking fun at this thread because it was me the posted it, or if it was just because Bible was in the title? (some people can't seem to resist the urge to belittle that.) i just wonder if i am doing something that invites this....or if its just that its anything Bible/Christian?

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 8:47:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't think I was poking fun as much as adding on to the cultural references. I realize you have a link, but "Why the Bible?" is a pretty broad subject and I think some posters answered that question without reference to the video.

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 9:01:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		The name of the video is "Why the Bible"....i didn't know what else to call it??

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 9:06:31 AM   
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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 9:09:33 AM   
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Why the Bible?
Some may agree, some may not, i found it interesting so i thought i'd share.



What an amazing amount of misdirection and faulty logic, though he does like to use impressive words, which I'm sure sways his audiences.


i'd be interested to hear what in paticular you mean. what of his comments were "faulty logic" and in what way was he trying to "misdirect"?

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 9:11:08 AM   
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I'm not yelling at you. Just saying.



Yelling? i don't understand? Who said anything about anyone yelling? i looked back over all the posts.


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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 9:52:15 AM   
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I'm not yelling at you. Just saying.



Yelling? i don't understand? Who said anything about anyone yelling? i looked back over all the posts.



Sorry, colloquialism. It just means my words were not intended to be taken as impassioned criticism. Your use of two question marks made me think that you were defensive and thought I was being more critical than I intended to be.



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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 9:57:42 AM   
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I'm not yelling at you. Just saying.



Yelling? i don't understand? Who said anything about anyone yelling? i looked back over all the posts.



Sorry, colloquialism. It just means my words were not intended to be taken as impassioned criticism. Your use of two question marks made me think that you were defensive and thought I was being more critical than I intended to be.




Ok, i didn't realize that  using 2 question marks means someone is being defensive....i will be more careful how use the question mark, thank you for telling me. i'm not real big on internet etiquette.


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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 10:08:29 AM   
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Ok, i didn't realize that  using 2 question marks means someone is being defensive....i will be more careful how use the question mark, thank you for telling me. i'm not real big on internet etiquette.



I don't know that it necessarily means that to everyone, that's just how I read it.

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 10:11:17 AM   
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Ok, i didn't realize that  using 2 question marks means someone is being defensive....i will be more careful how use the question mark, thank you for telling me. i'm not real big on internet etiquette.



I don't know that it necessarily means that to everyone, that's just how I read it.



Now who's being defensive..Kettle-pot..pot-kettle :>


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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 10:11:56 AM   
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I don't know that it necessarily means that to everyone, that's just how I read it.


Ok thank you.


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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 10:37:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucienne

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone
Ok, i didn't realize that  using 2 question marks means someone is being defensive....i will be more careful how use the question mark, thank you for telling me. i'm not real big on internet etiquette.



I don't know that it necessarily means that to everyone, that's just how I read it.



Now who's being defensive..Kettle-pot..pot-kettle :>



Lol. Just don't want to be mistaken for asserting something as a rule rather than an impression.

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 10:47:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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ORIGINAL: Lucienne

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone
Ok, i didn't realize that  using 2 question marks means someone is being defensive....i will be more careful how use the question mark, thank you for telling me. i'm not real big on internet etiquette.



I don't know that it necessarily means that to everyone, that's just how I read it.



Now who's being defensive..Kettle-pot..pot-kettle :>


i don't understand? Are you saying asking for clarity was being defensive? Could i have worded my question differently so i wouldn't have come across that way?

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 10:53:21 AM   
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i'm curious if you guys starting poking fun at this thread because it was me the posted it, or if it was just because Bible was in the title? (some people can't seem to resist the urge to belittle that.) i just wonder if i am doing something that invites this....or if its just that its anything Bible/Christian?


No, breatheasone, i hope no one is poking fun or making cultural references because it was posted by you. I watched the video as a non-believer and i found much to criticise in the preacher's assumptions. But i do not really wish to get into a debate about it here.

My question to you is this.... i wonder if you as a devout believer look at any of the videos posted by the NBs. We all have a tendency, believes and nonbelievers alike, to read and watch only those things which lend support and comfort to our own positions.

Two video replies have been posted that although presented by comedians of note do contain some serious criticisms of religion and Christianity and of the Bible especially. I refer you to the post by musicmystery and to the post i made with a link to George Carlin.

You have asked us to look and comment upon your understandably cherished video. I did so even though the title was uninviting and i am admittedly biased against what i found. Have you in turn looked at the videos which challenge your position?

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 10:57:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes i do, but when someone puts up a music video, or a comedian i tend to take it how it was intended. i never claimed i cherrished any video or the other....not sure where that conjecture came from.
Edited to add: As for the title, it is the name of the video so that is what i used, not knowing what else to call it?(one question mark)


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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 11:17:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have no criticism of the title. It is what it is. You need not apologize.

Both of these comedians Penn/Teller and George Carlin are quite serious in their criticisms. The fact that they entertain should not be used as an excuse to write them off. The entertainment is another way to get people to pay attention, just as preachers have been known to entertain.

In any event, i am happy to learn you have the courage to observe opposing views. Good luck to you.

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 11:21:48 AM   
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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 2:42:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

i'm curious if you guys starting poking fun at this thread because it was me the posted it, or if it was just because Bible was in the title? (some people can't seem to resist the urge to belittle that.) i just wonder if i am doing something that invites this....or if its just that its anything Bible/Christian?
 
i was just looking for perhaps discussion or questions. 



I have posted a few 'religious' threads and all of them have had really great responses.  I don't believe it's you.  I don't believe it's religion.  I do believe it's because the post didn't (originally) open up any kind of debate, it was sharing but there wasn't really any question. Candy, I am not trying to tell you what to do, but maybe if you had opened up the discussion more, rather than just offering to share, you might get more indepth responses?  It's an idea thrown in there anyhoo... take or leave it.

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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 2:46:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

i'm curious if you guys starting poking fun at this thread because it was me the posted it, or if it was just because Bible was in the title? (some people can't seem to resist the urge to belittle that.) i just wonder if i am doing something that invites this....or if its just that its anything Bible/Christian?
 
i was just looking for perhaps discussion or questions. 



I have posted a few 'religious' threads and all of them have had really great responses.  I don't believe it's you.  I don't believe it's religion.  I do believe it's because the post didn't (originally) open up any kind of debate, it was sharing but there wasn't really any question. Candy, I am not trying to tell you what to do, but maybe if you had opened up the discussion more, rather than just offering to share, you might get more indepth responses?  It's an idea thrown in there anyhoo... take or leave it.

the.dark.

Thank you SO much! That was what i was hoping for, to find out if i could change anything i was doing or not doing. You are a class act woman!


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RE: Why the Bible? - 11/19/2009 3:48:51 PM   
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i don't understand? Are you saying asking for clarity was being defensive? Could i have worded my question differently so i wouldn't have come across that way?


I was talking to Luci and it was a joking kick in the ribs


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