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slvemike4u -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/21/2009 1:13:44 PM)
No Boi ,nothing interesting but certainly inflammatory...and like a grisly car wreck it is hard not to look.Though at this point it is becoming increasingly easier to not bite....just wondering how much longer the rest of us need be subjected to his bullshit?

Lucylastic -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/21/2009 1:19:28 PM)
I think that may have been his last hurrah I hope so anyway

slvemike4u -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/21/2009 2:13:57 PM)
One can hope Lucy.....but heres the rub,don't guys like that(trollers) simply close up one particular shop(profile) and open another...unlike actual posters who may or may not post an occasionally ill advised post...get moderated and sit it out ie: do the time and come back rejoining what they just might look at as a community of posters....hoping not to sin again? These trollers just keep popping up like that silly video game( the name escapes me)...leading me to beleive,despite my many responses in the past to these fools...that we hold the only real power to disaude this behavior in our own hands......simply ignore and refuse to refute silly posts.

Moonhead -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 6:43:28 AM)
We can use images in here now, right? [image]http://newsrealblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/dont-feed-the-troll.jpg[/image]

rulemylife -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 7:27:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow quote: It has to do with her not being very intelligent and I would prefer my country being run by someone who is. Who decides who is intelligent who is not? Is the intelligence knowledge of trivia or college grades or what? Maybe we should make it mandatory for higher office seekers to pass certain set of IQ tests. She would probably do better than the average member of US Congress. J. Kerry you probably voted for as your president had D- University average grade. I do. With my vote.

rulemylife -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/22/2009 7:44:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow My complaint with so called "liberals" was about the excessive almost obsessive need to tear her down. Nothing obsessive about it. She's a dimwit who got put on the ticket because of her looks and ultra-conservative views. Even the McCain campaign tried to get her to shut up after they realized the mistake they made by choosing her.

Moonhead -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 10:33:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow My complaint with so called "liberals" was about the excessive almost obsessive need to tear her down. Nothing obsessive about it. She's a dimwit who got put on the ticket because of her looks and ultra-conservative views. Even the McCain campaign tried to get her to shut up after they realized the mistake they made by choosing her. Well, they didn't really choose her, did they? They were stuck with her by the GOP caucas (or whatever the hell it's called) after the independent McCain wanted as a running mate was vetoed.

rulemylife -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 10:42:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Well, they didn't really choose her, did they? They were stuck with her by the GOP caucas (or whatever the hell it's called) after the independent McCain wanted as a running mate was vetoed. That's the rumor, but ultimately they agreed to it, so it was their responsibility.

Moonhead -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 10:49:45 AM)
True. It does strike me as one of the more plausible ones I've heard though. McCain and leiberman seem to get on well, and he does appear to given up in disgust as soon as Palin started opening her trap, doesn't he?

rulemylife -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 11:03:43 AM)
I don't know whether I would say he gave up, but yes the story seems to be that he wanted Lieberman but was pressured into choosing Palin. There was a lot of divisiveness in the campaign toward the end, and I'm guessing he was disgusted with her, but I never saw it as him giving up.

Moonhead -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 11:08:12 AM)
I dunno about that: the fact that he gave a graceful and respectful concession speech rather suggests that he didn't give a shit at that point. Just look at the bizarre tantrums after it looked like Bush hadn't done a good enough job of fiddling the polls in 2000...

popeye1250 -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 11:26:00 AM)
It'll be Obama's election to lose. If he tries another "amnesty" on illegals we'll know he's in the pockets of big business ala Bush. Then there's the economy, bailing out big corporations isn't exactly part of the democratic platform. And if we're still in Iraq and Afganistan that's another liability. Has anyone heard President Obama utter the word, "Change" in the last six months? What happened?

SpinnerofTales -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 12:41:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 It'll be Obama's election to lose. If he tries another "amnesty" on illegals we'll know he's in the pockets of big business ala Bush. Then there's the economy, bailing out big corporations isn't exactly part of the democratic platform. And if we're still in Iraq and Afganistan that's another liability. Has anyone heard President Obama utter the word, "Change" in the last six months? What happened? Obama's got a rough row to hoe in '12. His weaknesses: Being too centerist. The right wing thinks he's too far to the left and the left think he's too far to the right. The only thing the two sides can agree on is Obama is too far to the "other side". A bad time to be president: There are a lot of long term problems that have come to a head in this time. This was good for him when he was running as a candidate. It's bad for him running for re-election as president. There is a long pattern of "throw the bastards out" sentiment that occurs in the country when things go wrong. We have come a long way from "Don't switch horses in mid stream" and it's much more "If you can't fire the team, fire the coach." Expectations vs. Reality: A lot of people expected a lot of things from Obama. They expected that he would fix the economy, end both wars we are currently waging, re regulate the banking industry and take a walk across the white house swimming pool while he was at it. We are all discovering that this isn't the case. The things he's done right look small compared to expectations and the stuff he's done wrong loom large. However, he does still have some significant strengths: People still like him: A great percentage of those who don't like his policies still like him. Likability counts for a lot in a world where one of the poll numbers people pay attention to is "which candidate would you rather have a beer with". He has time: The election is in 2012. He still has three years to put some things together. Despite our appetite for immediate gratification, there is inertia that has to be overcome in making any change. He has two years left for the economy to show noticeable improvement, to draw down the wars and to come up with some actual tangible results to his more diplomatic foreign policy. The 2010 elections: I think that there are going to be a lot of seats changing hands in this upcoming election. This will rob the GOP of their case that everything is the democrats fault because they are under represented. After voting them in, the people are going to want some ideas other than "just say no". The polls already indicate that people view the republicans as obstructionist and this view will only increase if they pick up seats and power and fail to come up with some new, reasonable ideas. The opposition candidate: There is a huge difference between the question "Do you want to vote for X?" and "Would you rather vote for X or Y?". If the republicans continue to put up presidential candidates that pander to the farthest right wing of their party, it gives Obama a firm advantage. If they have a bloody primary war between Palin and a more moderate republican it gives a strong advantage to Obama. If they give it to someone who continues to use "cutting taxes" as a manta designed to settle everything, it gives Obama an advantage. So, while I have no doubt that we're not going to see the same mandate for Obama that we saw in the last election, I would say it's far too soon to count him out yet.

popeye1250 -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 1:32:33 PM)
Spinner, you're right about that "A bad time to be President" part! When Clinton was in it wouldn't have mattered who was in the W.H. "Bill" was good for the economy, "Bill Gates!" Anyone could get a job making $80k in those heady days! All Clinton had to do was go along for the ride and not bump into the furniture and look what happened, "NAFTA", Kosovo/Bosnia, Monica, Impeachment, letting bin laden slip through his fingers, the U.S.S. Cole, Hillary, letting Barbara Streisand in the W.H. he couldn't even handle success. Most people when you throw them in a hole filled with roses come out smelling like roses! Yeah, it's not really a "good" time to be president, Obama simply can't make very many "mistakes" but I think he's already made a huge one bailing out big corporations. He needs to LISTEN to the American People not "special interests" and act accordingly! No president will ever go wrong doing what "The People" want them to do. P.S. I don't think Palin would be the "best" candidate for the "R's" to run. A more formidable candidate would be Mitt Romney, a very successfull manager.

Moonhead -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 1:45:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales Expectations vs. Reality: A lot of people expected a lot of things from Obama. They expected that he would fix the economy, end both wars we are currently waging, re regulate the banking industry and take a walk across the white house swimming pool while he was at it. Slight exageration. I do think a lot of people are (quite rightly) outraged that he's delivered on none of his promises to do something, or even anything. His caving in over leaving that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" bullshit in place was particularly repulsive. He was making a big issue of gay rights. And don't even get me started on the amount of time the wanker spends fawning and grovelling to the Republicans. They're never going to support him anything, so why in Hell's name is he demeaning himself like that?

SpinnerofTales -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 1:56:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Slight exageration. I do think a lot of people are (quite rightly) outraged that he's delivered on none of his promises to do something, or even anything. His caving in over leaving that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" bullshit in place was particularly repulsive. He was making a big issue of gay rights. And don't even get me started on the amount of time the wanker spends fawning and grovelling to the Republicans. They're never going to support him anything, so why in Hell's name is he demeaning himself like that? You're preaching to the choir here, Moon. I have a lot of problems with what Obama has done since he came into office. I was hoping for more change than the drapes in the white house living quarters. I am coming to the conclusion that he may not have the killer instinct needed in a chief executive and is just unable to realized that the GOP doesn't care if the country goes to hell as long as they get him out and one of their own back in. Unfortunately, that leaves one with the choice of evils. Obama who hasn't toughened up enough to put the GOP where they belong or the GOP who would rather see the house burn down than have anyone but themselves get any credit for saving it.

Moonhead -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 3:00:40 PM)
Oh, I hear you. I find the sudden u turn they've done over him continuing more or less exactly as the prior incumbant did mind numbing. I still can't believe they're capable of coming out with that crap after nine months, particularly given that the Democrats could probably have put forwards the late Joe Hill's corpse* with a ventrilloquist as his running mate and still won... *(The dead unionist, not Stephen King's son.)

rulemylife -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 8:43:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Slight exageration. I do think a lot of people are (quite rightly) outraged that he's delivered on none of his promises to do something, or even anything. This always cracks me up. On one hand we have people ready to start a revolution because he is changing too much too quick, then we have others complaining he is not changing things quickly enough. For one, we wouldn't be having this huge health care debate if he was not delivering on his promises.

SpinnerofTales -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/22/2009 9:12:00 PM)
quote: This always cracks me up. On one hand we have people ready to start a revolution because he is changing too much too quick, then we have others complaining he is not changing things quickly enough. For one, we wouldn't be having this huge health care debate if he was not delivering on his promises. ORIGINAL: rulemylife Very true, Rule. And I haven't given up on the guy. Still, as president, he's bound to do some things that piss me off and some things I like. The fact that we're even having this healthcare discussion and trying to do something about it is a huge positive. It should be noted that under eight years of Bush and one year of Obama, the best that the republicans have managed to come up with as their health care solution is "tort reform".

cuckyman -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/23/2009 9:26:09 AM)
Bud, I EARNED my right to speak... only wish you could have ridden along with me and my crew going in and out of hot LZ's up in I Corps back in the day.... saw many grunts pee down their leg experiencing something we do everyday.... I live in the panhandle of Florida in one of the most conservative counties in the state, and here are many many many veterans that feel just like myself..... WE loved this nation enough to VOLUNTEER to go to southeast asia and put our lives on the line...where were you?...hiding under the bed?...or perhaps protesting veterans when they came home.... I get nausiated just being around a liberal.... and that anger is building across the land.... It is NOT for people that have worked and sacrificed to be TOLD how to think...or to feel guilt about about this nation. I love this nation for its promise of individual, religious, and economic freedom....that is what it was founded on, and what it will be or perish.... I think many now know that the left is marching to the marxist playbook of attempting to wrecking captitalism to be in a position to supplant an all powerful socialist/marxist government controlled society, and Obama is doing just that.... Well there are those (millions of us I might add) that will not allow that to occur as long as life remains in our body.... I have killled the enemy face to face....and that is something that I can/will do again if it necessary to insure the country I grew up in is handed down to my son.... It is NOT your country....we are NOT soicalist...we are NOT evil....we are fortunate to have been born in a nation that allows individual choices....and that will NOT be allowed to perish. Liberals, democrats, the media, soicalist, and marxist underestimate the willingness of the people to FIGHT for what we believe.... and it could very well come down to that. I do not want bloodshed, but if that is the price of freedom, it will be as it will be..... I find those weak minded socialist apologizers a disgrace and unworthy to be called an American.... this joke of a president hasnt' a clue.... he is a product of a corrupt state and city political machine that thinks he has a mandate..... but he is now exposed as a mouthpiece for interest far from the mainstream in a competitive and dangerous world, and has NO answers but to saddle the nation with insurrmontable debt, and more racist garbage..... I am proud to be one of millions that has the willingness and the balls to take on the enemies of freedom , in what ever manner it might take.... and especially from a rear echelon, cowardly know it all puke such as you..... enjoy Obama's brief administration, for its about to crash down around your ears buster, and then its going to be a time for ALL the liberal turds to climb back under their slimey rock or run as they always do...or get ready to rumble, that much.. you can count on it!.....that is NOT a personal threat, but a promise to those that wish to tear this nation down.....you will NOT succeed....

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